The “ I’ve got something to say, but it doesn’t warrant its own thread “ thread.

[Trav Le Bleu]

On 17/10/2024 at 08:08, Vacamion said:

 

Was looking at this story in the Scotland section of The Times :

 

 

 

And then I saw this about the "Artist" involved:

 

 

 

 

 

I'm surprised at the restraint the neighbours are showing, I know a lot of places where Bonfire Night would have arrived a little early.  

 

 

 I'm guessing Denis Carbonaro isn't his birth name.

 

[BenTheFox]

If I ever got into power, I'd freeze every boomer's bank account and make them work in Tesco and rent from a private landlord for six months, just to teach them to have some empathy. It's the only form of national service I'm interested in. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

3 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

If I ever got into power, I'd freeze every boomer's bank account and make them work in Tesco and rent from a private landlord for six months, just to teach them to have some empathy. It's the only form of national service I'm interested in. 

Does this include the ones who grew up in poverty, lived in a slum area, did national service, barely survived TB, received no handouts, no central heating in two of the worst winters on record.....

I could go on but suspect you are on a wind up or massively ill informed.

[Foxdiamond]

4 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

If I ever got into power, I'd freeze every boomer's bank account and make them work in Tesco and rent from a private landlord for six months, just to teach them to have some empathy. It's the only form of national service I'm interested in. 

So you personally know everyone born between 1946 to 64. Such arrogance 

[Foxdiamond]

30 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Does this include the ones who grew up in poverty, lived in a slum area, did national service, barely survived TB, received no handouts, no central heating in two of the worst winters on record.....

I could go on but suspect you are on a wind up or massively ill informed.

I suspect the latter

[BenTheFox]

1 hour ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Does this include the ones who grew up in poverty, lived in a slum area, did national service, barely survived TB, received no handouts, no central heating in two of the worst winters on record.....

I could go on but suspect you are on a wind up or massively ill informed.

It was somewhat tongue in cheek, but I absolutely loathe the attitude that so many boomers, particularly right wing boomers, have that younger generations are 'lazy' and that maybe they'd be able to afford a house if they cancelled their Netflix subscriptions and stopped eating avocado on toast,  despite average house prices now being nine times the average salary when they could buy a house for under £20,000 in 1985. I especially hate how do many boomers jump to the conclusion that if someone is struggling financially, it's all their own fault and that they feckless when in truth people have seen serious wage stagnation, huge hikes in energy bills and are often having to pay extortionate rents to parasite private landlords. Just wish they'd show a little bit of contrition and accept that the world that millenials and zoomers have inherited is nothing like the one they were living in when they were younger. 

[leicsmac]

To say nothing of the fact that division and inequality is the reason the world is how it is now, and there's lots of room for it to get worse in the future because of it.

[Foxdiamond]

21 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

It was somewhat tongue in cheek, but I absolutely loathe the attitude that so many boomers, particularly right wing boomers, have that younger generations are 'lazy' and that maybe they'd be able to afford a house if they cancelled their Netflix subscriptions and stopped eating avocado on toast,  despite average house prices now being nine times the average salary when they could buy a house for under £20,000 in 1985. I especially hate how do many boomers jump to the conclusion that if someone is struggling financially, it's all their own fault and that they feckless when in truth people have seen serious wage stagnation, huge hikes in energy bills and are often having to pay extortionate rents to parasite private landlords. Just wish they'd show a little bit of contrition and accept that the world that millenials and zoomers have inherited is nothing like the one they were living in when they were younger. 

Slightly moved your position from every boomer to so many boomers. Please understand we ain't all the same with the same experiences or finances etc

[grobyfox1990]

57 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

It was somewhat tongue in cheek, but I absolutely loathe the attitude that so many boomers, particularly right wing boomers, have that younger generations are 'lazy' and that maybe they'd be able to afford a house if they cancelled their Netflix subscriptions and stopped eating avocado on toast,  despite average house prices now being nine times the average salary when they could buy a house for under £20,000 in 1985. I especially hate how do many boomers jump to the conclusion that if someone is struggling financially, it's all their own fault and that they feckless when in truth people have seen serious wage stagnation, huge hikes in energy bills and are often having to pay extortionate rents to parasite private landlords. Just wish they'd show a little bit of contrition and accept that the world that millenials and zoomers have inherited is nothing like the one they were living in when they were younger. 

Haha great rant, but they’ve had their chance and alarmingly failed the generations after them. Time for this generation to show we can solve the challenges we are facing and ensure it’s the baby boomers that will forever be remembered as the worst generation to live, not us. 

[bovril]

I understand the dislike towards Boomers. One of the luckiest generations in history, they totally squandered what had been gifted them by voting for Thatcherism, Austerity and Brexit, and now Britain is probably one of the worst places to be young in Europe.

 

Of course, not all boomers wanted those things and even the ones that did are not fundamentally bad people. But I am sure as shit not going to be grateful to a generation that left the country in a far worse state than they found it and then spent the last decade or so flailing around blaming everyone but themselves.

 

And to be honest, looking at young people today, I realise that people of my generation, born in the 80s, probably have more in common culturally with boomers than with teenagers in present day Britain. 

[Izzy]

[bovril]

4 minutes ago, Izzy said:

and the intro plays in my head

[Foxdiamond]

30 minutes ago, bovril said:

I understand the dislike towards Boomers. One of the luckiest generations in history, they totally squandered what had been gifted them by voting for Thatcherism, Austerity and Brexit, and now Britain is probably one of the worst places to be young in Europe.

 

Of course, not all boomers wanted those things and even the ones that did are not fundamentally bad people. But I am sure as shit not going to be grateful to a generation that left the country in a far worse state than they found it and then spent the last decade or so flailing around blaming everyone but themselves.

 

And to be honest, looking at young people today, I realise that people of my generation, born in the 80s, probably have more in common culturally with boomers than with teenagers in present day Britain. 

Look at how many did not vote for Thatcher and her policies. The Labour Party was in such disarray that the anti Tory vote was split. 

[bovril]

8 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Look at how many did not vote for Thatcher and her policies. The Labour Party was in such disarray that the anti Tory vote was split. 

True. I shouldn't generalise. Britain's made a lot of mistakes over the last forty or so years I guess it's inevitable your generation will get blamed for a lot of it. 

[Tuna]

Why were @Parafox posts deleted?

[FoyleFox]

On 23/10/2024 at 22:18, ozleicester said:

On holidays wearing my city shirt... Just about to go on the Luge at Rotorua in NZ when the lad scaning the tickets, scanned mine, looked up and said...

"sorry mate, you cant go on this"...

cue me... "WTF why?"

"not in that shirt mate"... as he taps a tiny fighting cock badge on his jumper.

My response... "Cmon mate, you need to ease up and just support a team that wins things"

Grumpy loser smiles and says... "youll be back in the championship next year"

.. off i luged  

I was in Rotorua on Saturday. Tour guide response when I said I was from Leicester..'Ooo Jamie Vardy' 

 

The one in Napier said 'Melton Mowbray pork pies' 

Edited 23 October 2024 by FoyleFox

[bovril]

24 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Look at how many did not vote for Thatcher and her policies. The Labour Party was in such disarray that the anti Tory vote was split. 

 

14 minutes ago, bovril said:

True. I shouldn't generalise. Britain's made a lot of mistakes over the last forty or so years I guess it's inevitable your generation will get blamed for a lot of it. 

And I should add I don't think people my age are blameless at all.

[ajthefox]

I find all this generational stuff to be daft.

 

It's another form of culture war which generalises and puts blame at the hands of individuals when really it is systems and those in power that are at fault.

 

Making out another generation of people is responsible for everything will keep the politicians happy - more division is good for those in high places.

 

 

[Foxdiamond]

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Yeah that ice inside the windows was so normal before Central heating 

[bovril]

6 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

I find all this generational stuff to be daft.

 

It's another form of culture war which generalises and puts blame at the hands of individuals when really it is systems and those in power that are at fault.

 

Making out another generation of people is responsible for everything will keep the politicians happy - more division is good for those in high places.

 

 

Disagree tbh.

 

I think the idea is ingrained in England that there is a system keeping us all down and that politicians play divide and conquer to maintain it. But in reality millions of people have voted consistently for NIMBY, low growth, antisocial policies mostly for quite selfish reasons.

 

You can't expect that isn't going to create friction between those who voted for it and those who generally didn't.

Edited 23 October 2024 by bovril

[LiberalFox]

Social conditions were way better for boomers than they were for me. Would happily trade the 'luxury' of modern consumerism for the job and housing market my dad had available to him. 

 

As someone who would just like the chance to earn a living, own a house and maybe raise a family the boomers were the most privileged generation. 

 

Would honestly prefer to cycle to work (my dad didn't but my grandfather did). You could actually do that without being mown down by a boomer in a rangerover heading to collect his rent. 

 

Just sounds like better times. Less management culture too. Could have a cheeky beer during lunch break. No psycho babble wank about 'mindfulness'. 

 

We were actually British and had our own language and culture separate from America. 

 

Modern Britain is just total shit really. Absolutely soulless society. Even football is crap. Can't stand at the football. Can't have a drink. You need to buy a membership to then have a chance to maybe buy a ticket. Boomers could turn up on the day, pay and stand on a terrace. 

 

I don't hate boomers, but many of them seem to think they fought in WW2 (they didn't) and that they had it really hard (they didn't). It's always been popular boomer vote fodder to call young people stupid lazy and entitled so I don't feel that much sympathy. Not really sure anything justifies the name calling either. 

 

 

[Samilktray]

It’s about time we had a good pile on, on  the boomers to be fair 

[grobyfox1990]

8 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

I find all this generational stuff to be daft.

 

It's another form of culture war which generalises and puts blame at the hands of individuals when really it is systems and those in power that are at fault.

 

Making out another generation of people is responsible for everything will keep the politicians happy - more division is good for those in high places.

 

 

Disagree tbh. We pay and elect the people that make our decisions. Boomers have been proven by many metrics to be the most incompetent generation to have ever lived. Whether they removed ice from inside their windows or not (massive LOL at that post btw, all time classic). We will be remembered as the same I guess when we leave about 10% of the world to be habitable to our children with about 1% able to afford it 

[Foxdiamond]

21 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Disagree tbh. We pay and elect the people that make our decisions. Boomers have been proven by many metrics to be the most incompetent generation to have ever lived. Whether they removed ice from inside their windows or not (massive LOL at that post btw, all time classic). We will be remembered as the same I guess when we leave about 10% of the world to be habitable to our children with about 1% able to afford it 

Read what I said about the split anti Tory vote

[Free Falling Foxes]

Interesting that an entire demographic - so called 'boomers' - can be vilified. I accept that much is just a wind up or just a cheap criticism of a group of folk that belong to to another generation. However, if posters wrote similar diatribe but instead of 'boomer' wrote such generalisation of Gypsies, Asians, blacks, muslims, jews, women, and so, it would an 'ism' and rightly called out. As far as FT is concerned, posts would be deleated, posters banned - and rightly so.

I'm baffed as to why one age group/generation is fair game.