The post Covid landscape

[Bazly]

I used to think the prospects for a super league were limited as who, other than the champagne set, could afford to travel Internationally week in week out for games overseas. It'd be remote, unrepresentative, all a bit more hype over substance. A sterile atmosphere where what was in the canapes would be as important as the entertainment for the corporate hospitality guests. Now, with Covid, we see that football doesn't really need a crowd meaning its a game that can be played anywhere on Earth.  Maybe with different time zones we can all get back to staggered 3pm games.

 

Covid has shown a Super League is a viable destination for those clubs seeking a cartel to end competition. The 'invited' teams will fight to have their B teams remain in the English league so they can give game time to the £billions spent on players. I'd hope this is resisted and the those who choose to leave do indeed leave the domestic English game. Either way, with B teams playing A teams or no B teams the future of football is heading more virtual by the day. What will be left in 20 years could be a hollowed husk scraped out by owners chasing the Yuan.

[Strokes]

Nice positive outlook you have, has cheered me right up.

[coolhandfox]

They have been talking abouit a Euro League for 30 years.

 

At the moment The big clubs make as much from the PL as Europe. They can have their cake and eat it.

[SheppyFox]

🖕🏻

[Vacamion]

46 minutes ago, Bazly said:

I used to think the prospects for a super league were limited as who, other than the champagne set, could afford to travel Internationally week in week out for games overseas. It'd be remote, unrepresentative, all a bit more hype over substance. A sterile atmosphere where what was in the canapes would be as important as the entertainment for the corporate hospitality guests. Now, with Covid, we see that football doesn't really need a crowd meaning its a game that can be played anywhere on Earth.  Maybe with different time zones we can all get back to staggered 3pm games.

 

Covid has shown a Super League is a viable destination for those clubs seeking a cartel to end competition. The 'invited' teams will fight to have their B teams remain in the English league so they can give game time to the £billions spent on players. I'd hope this is resisted and the those who choose to leave do indeed leave the domestic English game. Either way, with B teams playing A teams or no B teams the future of football is heading more virtual by the day. What will be left in 20 years could be a hollowed husk scraped out by owners chasing the Yuan.

 

I can't think of a season in recent years which has undermined the concept of an "elite few" clubs any more than the current rollercoaster season.

 

The most recent set of reorganisation plans were shown to be the pipe dreams of USA based owners.  Divorced from reality.

 

That set of plans failed dismally to win support in the fairly recent past.

 

I think we are OK for a while.

 

 

[Angus Scott]

1 hour ago, Bazly said:

I used to think the prospects for a super league were limited as who, other than the champagne set, could afford to travel Internationally week in week out for games overseas. It'd be remote, unrepresentative, all a bit more hype over substance. A sterile atmosphere where what was in the canapes would be as important as the entertainment for the corporate hospitality guests. Now, with Covid, we see that football doesn't really need a crowd meaning its a game that can be played anywhere on Earth.  Maybe with different time zones we can all get back to staggered 3pm games.

 

Covid has shown a Super League is a viable destination for those clubs seeking a cartel to end competition. The 'invited' teams will fight to have their B teams remain in the English league so they can give game time to the £billions spent on players. I'd hope this is resisted and the those who choose to leave do indeed leave the domestic English game. Either way, with B teams playing A teams or no B teams the future of football is heading more virtual by the day. What will be left in 20 years could be a hollowed husk scraped out by owners chasing the Yuan.

If your scenario for 20 years time is correct, I am really pleased that I shall be dead

[mozartfox]

I wonder who or what Kloppers will blame this on ‘if’ they fail to win this? 

[King of Gipsy Lane]

Wow the cheerful Thread has arrived  

[Dahnsouff]

4 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

I wonder who or what Kloppers will blame this on ‘if’ they fail to win this? 

People posting in the wrong thread I suspect. 

[mozartfox]

6 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

People posting in the wrong thread I suspect. 

I bet you COVID-19 gets a mention if they lose, so a tenuous connection which is normally the way on FT.

[davieG]

1 hour ago, Vacamion said:

 

I can't think of a season in recent years which has undermined the concept of an "elite few" clubs any more than the current rollercoaster season.

 

The most recent set of reorganisation plans were shown to be the pipe dreams of USA based owners.  Divorced from reality.

 

That set of plans failed dismally to win support in the fairly recent past.

 

I think we are OK for a while.

 

 

It depends what their motive was, if it was an independent Super League then maybe you’re right but it could easily have been a stalking horse to get them more favourable terms with the CL it which case it looks like it’s succeeded.

 

They won’t need Super League if the CL satisfies most of their needs.

[fuchsntf]

3 hours ago, Bazly said:

I used to think the prospects for a super league were limited as who, other than the champagne set, could afford to travel Internationally week in week out for games overseas. It'd be remote, unrepresentative, all a bit more hype over substance. A sterile atmosphere where what was in the canapes would be as important as the entertainment for the corporate hospitality guests. Now, with Covid, we see that football doesn't really need a crowd meaning its a game that can be played anywhere on Earth.  Maybe with different time zones we can all get back to staggered 3pm games.

 

Covid has shown a Super League is a viable destination for those clubs seeking a cartel to end competition. The 'invited' teams will fight to have their B teams remain in the English league so they can give game time to the £billions spent on players. I'd hope this is resisted and the those who choose to leave do indeed leave the domestic English game. Either way, with B teams playing A teams or no B teams the future of football is heading more virtual by the day. What will be left in 20 years could be a hollowed husk scraped out by owners chasing the Yuan.

I am 67, belong to the vulnerable group,with all lurgies possible.....

when I am Dead & Gone These Bloody Elite Super league fanatics,can have what they Bloody  want..but I aint quite  ready to go just yet,

So I believe their super-League virus will not find a Carrier even in my life-time....

just because one occasionally gets high temperature, doesn't mean you have to succumb...

[Grebfromgrebland]

What do you mean 'post covid'?

[UHDrive]

Rubbish. Never happen. Government would intervene. Close thread.

[The whole world smiles]

4 hours ago, Bazly said:

I used to think the prospects for a super league were limited as who, other than the champagne set, could afford to travel Internationally week in week out for games overseas. It'd be remote, unrepresentative, all a bit more hype over substance. A sterile atmosphere where what was in the canapes would be as important as the entertainment for the corporate hospitality guests. Now, with Covid, we see that football doesn't really need a crowd meaning its a game that can be played anywhere on Earth.  Maybe with different time zones we can all get back to staggered 3pm games.

 

Covid has shown a Super League is a viable destination for those clubs seeking a cartel to end competition. The 'invited' teams will fight to have their B teams remain in the English league so they can give game time to the £billions spent on players. I'd hope this is resisted and the those who choose to leave do indeed leave the domestic English game. Either way, with B teams playing A teams or no B teams the future of football is heading more virtual by the day. What will be left in 20 years could be a hollowed husk scraped out by owners chasing the Yuan.

I would argue that covid has proved that football is a vastly inferior product without the crowd. People like me watch because the choice is make the best of it and enjoy the distraction or don't watch any football. 

 

But if its a TV choice between Man United V Man City in front of a few thousand sheiks in this “super league" in Quatar or Leeds V Villa at a bouncing Elland road in the "inferior" English league then it will be a no brainer for a huge proportion of the football watching population of the UK. 

 

Of course you want to see the best players possible but football as a product is about Drama, Occasion, atmosphere and Passion all of which are greatly diminished in empty or semi empty stadiums. 

[adejo92]

Sh1t thread.