Disappointing XI

[PAULCFC]

Two pages and no Josh Lowe?

[ScrumpyJack]

4 hours ago, martyn said:

Konchesky, Solano and Waghorn were all ok for us at worst.

So they were disappointing. First two were big names which they didn't live up to. 

 

With Konchesky's pedigree and apparent wages, he should have been a bigger influence in games but was not strong defensively and often punted ridiculous shots, or offered crap crosses.

 

Solano did nothing at Leicester, he was firmly in his twilight but still provided little. He was more lorry doing a three-point turn than football player.

 

Waghorn looked good on loan when he had something to prove, but once he got his transfer he looked nowhere near as good as he showed he could be.

[Foxaholic ME]

On 06/02/2021 at 10:38, The whole world smiles said:

I'm not having Wayne Brown forgetting his political bust up he was quite a good defender here and featured heavily for a side that just missed out on promotion to the Premier league in their first attempt after league 1.

Couldnt agree more leaving him out for his  political  beliefs in the play offs  probablly cost us promotion  and he played well all that season

[Langston]

54 minutes ago, Foxaholic ME said:

Couldnt agree more leaving him out for his  political  beliefs in the play offs  probablly cost us promotion  and he played well all that season

 

I dare say leaving him in for his political beliefs might have cost us promotion, too. We'd have guys outright refusing to be on the same pitch as him.

[TJB-fox]

I love threads like these and I understand everyone will have differing opinions but I am absolutely convinced a lot of people don’t even bother reading the thread title. Disappointing XI and I’m seeing names like Nobby Solano, Konchesky, Upson, Lingard, Waghorn ??? I guess everyone’s own opinion on disappointing will Nev relative but they are some absolutely appalling shouts. 

[filthyfox]

Nacho..... a worse goalscoring ratio than Badbuy.   Utterly disappointing 

[TJB-fox]

10 hours ago, Foxaholic ME said:

Couldnt agree more leaving him out for his  political  beliefs in the play offs  probablly cost us promotion  and he played well all that season

Hard to say. There were 2 players minimum that I know of that flat out refused to play with him when it all came out so had he played it wouldn’t have gone down well at all. But you’re right, having Alex bruce come in didn’t do us any favours. 

[Tuna]

Can't be arsed to do a full side but I'd definitely have Inler, Silva and Kramaric in there.

[Captain...]

Surprised nobody has mentioned Michael Johnson, thought it was a real coup to get him on loan but he was already done at 23. A real talent when he burst into the scene at Man City. What a waste.

Edited 8 February 2021 by Captain...

[walkerleeds]

On 06/02/2021 at 09:23, kyleolly said:

Henderson

 

Stearman

N’gotty

McAuley

Mattock

 

Bell

Worley

Oakley

 

Hayles

Howard

Hume

 

 

 

 

 

Still find it bizarre Holloway gave him his debut in a game of this magnitude. 

[Electric Yetis]

On 06/02/2021 at 10:12, Line-X said:

Frank Sinclair A Jamaican International at Centreback? Surely not? When was that going to happen again? It wasn't so much Frank that was disappointing, he was actually player of the season 2002 - it was the timing of his signing which coincided with the beginning of one of the darkest periods in our history. A great servant to this club imo - although most prefer to recall this which is why he's on this list...

 

 

Find this one a bit bizarre. He signed in 1998, him signing didn't coincide with the darkest period. He was part of two great seasons before Taylor came in. Aside from a few dodgy own goals he was excellent.

 

For me I'd go for Roberto Mancini and Darren Eadie.

 

Mancini, one of the biggest names in world football even if he was towards the end. 5 games and let's be honest he was crap aside from one decent pass.

 

Eadie, record signing at the time and unfortunately spent more time on the treatment table than the pitch.

 

 

Edited 8 February 2021 by Rain King

[fazzyfox]

GK - To give him his full title "Portugese legend Ricardo". He kept trying to punch crosses and shots to the point that the guy next to me shouted slowly  "JUST..... CATCH...... THE...... BALL" like he was coaching a five year old! Then his 4th poor punch of the game fell to Portsmouth's Nugent and it wasn't just the goal it was the sheer inevitability of it that dismayed.

RB - Kaebi - It seems his infamous you tube footage was created by the same FX guys who worked on the Benny Hill show

CB - Keown - Required two seats in the dressing room, one for him, one for his ego. I thought with the likes of him and Dabizas we'd be water tight at the back. It was more like Niagra falls.

CB - Alan Evans - Was solid and dependable for Villa for years, came here, tried to do his trademarked carrying the ball out of defence ala Maguire but lost it 10/10 times ala Stones.

LB - Struggling to think...Michael Ball seemed a solid signing but due to injury it just didn't happen. Gone on to host Songs of Praise and sing a bit so good luck to him.

DM - Michael Johnson, a sensitive one as he's suffered serious depression about it hence no pie jokes but a prime example of the topic as I was excited at the prospect of having him at our club, knew he had the raw talent but it was not to be injuries had taken their toll physically and mentally but for a moment you just wondered if this would be his new beginning

CM - Wise - Just a year earlier he had started for England at the Euro's (or World Cup) but now he was just a pinching, punching arriving late at every challenge or early and trying to bump opponents off their stride, just completely out of rhythm with the tempo of the game, finished, over opinionated, p***s shaped peg in a square hole.

AM - In a cunning plan to replace Gary MacAlister we signed both Billy Davies and Ricky Hill. People were reminiscent of how Hill would stand out for Luton, his England cap, his playing with a smile, universally popular, a skilful, tempo setting, pass and move player, a teams heartbeat. What we got was an unfit guy jogging round pointing a lot, always off the pace looking like an exhibition match player.   

LW/CF - Musa - Yes I fell for the Barcelona performance and the times he used his turbo gear change to effect, woah he's gonna be great. That cup game away to Sheff Utd where he dribbled off the pitch seemingly oblivious, it was like a dog had trodden randomly on a playstation controller during a game of FIFA. Seemed reluctant to use his pace approaching opposition box when it would benefit yet at other times try kamikaze dribbles inside own half

CF - Wayne Clarke - We called him Cornerflag (we meant the flag pole) because they had exactly the same amount of movement about them, static and uninvolved, seemingly a finisher and nothing else. Except he rarely finished.

CF - Tommy Christenson - having recently read his career info it was clearly recovery from injury that meant it was never likely to be the super coup it sounded, believe he was Europes top league goalscorer the previous season and in those days a continental name, hair cut and ability to perform a flashy diving header and scoring four times on his debut for City reserves in my Subbuteo meant, I at least had him set for immortality. Instead he was set for twenty minutes against Southampton and an away game. He did better for my Subbuteo 1st team scoring seven diving headers in the cup final as my 3-2-5 formation ravished Liverpool !  

[SpacedX]

3 minutes ago, Rain King said:

Find this one a bit bizarre. He signed in 1998, him signing didn't coincide with the darkest period. He was part of two great seasons before Taylor came in. 

Frank was with us for what, six seasons was it? As I explained, disappointing in the sense that it was the back end of the O'Neill era and wasn't timely in terms of what the future was to hold for the club. That's all. Although relegated during that spell, he did win a second League Cup but as I said, it's the fact that he didn't arrive earlier which was disappointing to me, not Frank himself. 

 

9 minutes ago, Rain King said:

Aside from a few dodgy own goals he was excellent.

Pretty much what I said. The fact that he is remembered more for the former is again 'disappointing'. 

 

14 minutes ago, Rain King said:

Eadie, record signing at the time and unfortunately spent more time on the treatment table than the pitch.

And similarly, Ullathorne - another ex Norwich player, also still in his prime, two nasty leg breaks. 

[SpacedX]

9 minutes ago, fazzyfox said:

CF - Tommy Christenson - having recently read his career info it was clearly recovery from injury that meant it was never likely to be the super coup it sounded, believe he was Europes top league goalscorer the previous season and in those days a continental name, hair cut and ability to perform a flashy diving header and scoring four times on his debut for City reserves in my Subbuteo meant, I at least had him set for immortality. Instead he was set for twenty minutes against Southampton and an away game. He did better for my Subbuteo 1st team scoring seven diving headers in the cup final as my 3-2-5 formation ravished Liverpool !  

I remember the hype and the expectation and the chants of "Tommy Tommy" from the Kop at home to Southampton. He charged onto the pitch in headless chicken mode eager to live up to it with minutes to go -  and almost nearly won it for us with a spectacular diving header. Actually, he didn't, but he did at least connect. Ignominiously fobbed off to Pompey after one start on a similarly underwhelming loan deal. 

[Sampson]

On 06/02/2021 at 17:37, PAULCFC said:

Two pages and no Josh Lowe?

He was a cheap lower league signing with little fanfare. Hardly what you'd consider a disappointment compared to someone like Musa in his position, who was a club record signing with international recognition and a lot of hype and pedigree.

[OntarioFox]

Are we allowed to include Tricky Dickie's second stint in League One? I was certain he was going to be pushing Matty Fryatt as our top scorer at that level, but IIRC he only bagged two goals over the course of that campaign in the end. 

Classic example of a Pearson signing to get some experience in the camp I guess - "dressing room signings" if you like - but I had clocked that approach and accepted their bit-part nature by the time we started bringing in messrs. Solano, Taylor-Fletcher, Phillips etc. In Dickov's case I just remember being super excited, because I'd fallen out of love with footy through most of the 2000s, only to pick it up again during our relegation season, and yet here was my favourite player as a kid, back again, like a bit of continuity from that period earlier in my childhood. 

Oh, I forgot Vassell. The Sven signing I got similar initial hype for, and was similarly disappointed in. That one didn't have the emotional attachment though - I just figured an ex-England international would tear it up, but it turned out that Nuge was the one to fit that bill. 

I guess I still have that habit of rooting for the underdogs in our own squad to play a blinder or score a screamer to shut up the negative side of the fanbase. I got that feeling with Kelechi's header against Fulham, but through that period from 2010 to promotion I had similar vibes watching the likes of Oakley, King (many times) and, for some reason, Robbie Neilson. 

[Brizzle Fox]

5 hours ago, Line-X said:

Frank was with us for what, six seasons was it? As I explained, disappointing in the sense that it was the back end of the O'Neill era and wasn't timely in terms of what the future was to hold for the club. That's all. Although relegated during that spell, he did win a second League Cup but as I said, it's the fact that he didn't arrive earlier which was disappointing to me, not Frank himself. 

 

Pretty much what I said. The fact that he is remembered more for the former is again 'disappointing'. 

 

And similarly, Ullathorne - another ex Norwich player, also still in his prime, two nasty leg breaks. 

Ullathorne was such a shame as was superb for us when fit, he just wasn't fit often enough!  Eadie we never saw enough of as peremanetly injured but a genuine talent in his prime, so a genuine disappointment. 

However the ultimate disappointing ex Norwich player we signed has to be Lee Marshall, as he was just shit. 

[Danno]

just from seasons I can remember:

 

Ricardo (thought he would be the top keeper we needed) 

 

Hernandez

Mills

Benalouane 
McGivern

 

Musa 

Inler

Silva 
Johnson
 

Beckford

Slimani 

 

Subs: 

Under, Moreno, Danns, Kirkland, Powell, St Ledger, Bednar 

 

[ScrumpyJack]

9 hours ago, TJB-fox said:

I love threads like these and I understand everyone will have differing opinions but I am absolutely convinced a lot of people don’t even bother reading the thread title. Disappointing XI and I’m seeing names like Nobby Solano, Konchesky, Upson, Lingard, Waghorn ??? I guess everyone’s own opinion on disappointing will Nev relative but they are some absolutely appalling shouts. 

Doesn't disappointing mean when you are expecting something decent and get tosh in return? Waghorn, Solano and Konchesky all fit the dictionary definition perfectly.

 

I'd agree Upson and Lingard were not disappointing. Upson was a squad player, Lingard was a young loan signing. Very little in terms of expectation, therefore little room for disappointment.

 

On 06/02/2021 at 18:02, ScrumpyJack said:

So they were disappointing.

 

With Konchesky's pedigree and apparent wages, he should have been a bigger influence in games but was not strong defensively and often punted ridiculous shots, or offered crap crosses.

 

Solano did nothing at Leicester, he was firmly in his twilight but still provided little. He was more lorry doing a three-point turn than football player.

 

Waghorn looked good on loan when he had something to prove, but once he got his transfer he looked nowhere near as good as he showed he could be.

 

[Guest StevieLynex]

Mark Grew

 

John Curtis

Matt Mills

Martin Keown

Hernandez

 

Ayoze

Silva

Mendy (for the first few years)

Kaputska

 

Slimani

Musa

[TJB-fox]

1 hour ago, ScrumpyJack said:

Doesn't disappointing mean when you are expecting something decent and get tosh in return? Waghorn, Solano and Konchesky all fit the dictionary definition perfectly.

 

I'd agree Upson and Lingard were not disappointing. Upson was a squad player, Lingard was a young loan signing. Very little in terms of expectation, therefore little room for disappointment.

 

 

I agree on waghorn.

Solano came in as a veteran. Experienced pro to come in, help the lads, be reliable when called upon, give 7/10 every week performances. Not going to pull up any trees but be a valuable member of the squad. Solano filled that role well, as did Hammond, Phillips, Taylor-Fletcher, Hammond etc etc who Pearson also signed. 

I thought Konchesky was a good signing to be honest. Part of the promotion winning side and was decent here over his spell, barring the odd mistake. 

[Pliskin]

Douglas 

 

Jacob Larsen

Matt Mills

Niko Dabizas

Alan Sheehan

 

Levi Porter

Inler

Adrien Silver 

Neil Danns

 

Islam Slimani

Jermain Beckford

[Stoney Fox]

My disappointing 11

 

Kalac - was supposed to be next level when signed. Big build up with work permit.

 

Kaebi - our first youtube sensation.

Mills - Thought he would be the new Walsh

Keown- well past it. 

 

Gunlaugsson- big money at the time. Never seemed to do well

Silva- glamour signing- big money walsh signing. 

Inler- didn't slot in but big reputation and cambiasso sized boots to fill. 

Eadie- excellent reputation. Looked good in a few games but really unlucky with injuries 

Wise - big reputation. Did nothing (positive)

 

Beckford - was supposed to be the jewel in the crown of svens galacticos. Rubbish

Musa - another walsh signing that you expected big things from