Euro 2028 - In UK & Ireland?

[Sampson]

24 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Probably likely 10-12 stadiums will be chosen, though we could use more with stadiums we have likely choices I think.

 

England: Wembley Stadium (1), Old Trafford (2), Villa Park (3), Etihad Stadium (4), Anfield (5), St James (6), Tottenham Hostpur Stadium (7)

Scotland: Hampden (8), Celtic Park (9)

Wales: Millennium Stadium (10)

Northern Ireland: Windsor Park (11)

Rep Of Ireland: Aviva Stadium (12)

 

Can't say I'd be happy with that choice, but likely.

 

You can only have multiple stadiums in one city (and there I’m pretty sure you can only have 2 stadiums), because you need countries to be stationed there for training camps etc. too, which I assume will be London with either Tottenham or West Ham’s ground alongside Wembley.

 

But Manchester or Glasgow won’t have multiple stadiums. Unless they try and blag Old Trafford as being in Salford not Manchester I guess.

 

That’s why it’s becoming more and more difficult to host in a single country as the tournaments get expanded. Our World Cup 2018 bid had planned 40,000 seater stadiums being built in cities like Plymouth and Milton Keynes.

Edited 22 March 2022 by Sampson

[Scotch]

3 minutes ago, Sampson said:

You can only have multiple stadiums in one city (and there I’m pretty sure you can only have 2 stadiums), because you need countries to be stationed there for training camps etc. too, which I assume will be London with either Tottenham or West Ham’s ground alongside Wembley.

 

But Manchester or Glasgow won’t have multiple stadiums. Unless they try and blag Old Trafford as being in Salford not Manchester I guess.

 

That’s why it’s becoming more and more difficult to host in a single country as the tournaments get expanded. Our World Cup 2018 bid had planned 40,000 seater stadiums being built in cities like Plymouth and Milton Keynes.

I was actually thinking the opposite.

 

Most of the fans coming over will be doing so for all 3 group games at least so it makes sense to appoint a each group with a city that has two stadiums to host their two games on the same day, keeping the fans in said city with minimum travel. 

 

So for example, group A's four teams are in Manchester. Group B, Glasgow, Group C and D in London etc etc. 

It might not be possible for all groups as the likes of Ireland and Wales don't have more than 1 stadium but I would reckon that it would be best to make it as easy for fans as possible to access all the stadiums they need from one base. 

[CosbehFox]

9 minutes ago, Scotch said:

I was actually thinking the opposite.

 

Most of the fans coming over will be doing so for all 3 group games at least so it makes sense to appoint a each group with a city that has two stadiums to host their two games on the same day, keeping the fans in said city with minimum travel. 

 

So for example, group A's four teams are in Manchester. Group B, Glasgow, Group C and D in London etc etc. 

It might not be possible for all groups as the likes of Ireland and Wales don't have more than 1 stadium but I would reckon that it would be best to make it as easy for fans as possible to access all the stadiums they need from one base. 

Those travelling fans account for approx 30% of a crowd though at International tournaments. Have to be careful not to have too many games in one city as it's the same market of interested persons. 

 

For example in Glasgow over the summer, even with a reduced 9000 capacity - the game between Croatia v Czech Republic only sold 5800. 

[CosbehFox]

47 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Probably likely 10-12 stadiums will be chosen, though we could use more with stadiums we have likely choices I think.

 

England: Wembley Stadium (1), Old Trafford (2), Villa Park (3), Etihad Stadium (4), Anfield (5), St James (6), Tottenham Hostpur Stadium (7)

Scotland: Hampden (8), Celtic Park (9)

Wales: Millennium Stadium (10)

Northern Ireland: Windsor Park (11)

Rep Of Ireland: Aviva Stadium (12)

 

Can't say I'd be happy with that choice, but likely.

 

Can see Everton as a more likely host in 2028. Far more jazzy for UEFA

 

Also Murrayfield could be an option for the second Scottish ground 

[CosbehFox]

24 minutes ago, Sampson said:

You can only have multiple stadiums in one city (and there I’m pretty sure you can only have 2 stadiums), because you need countries to be stationed there for training camps etc. too, which I assume will be London with either Tottenham or West Ham’s ground alongside Wembley.

 

But Manchester or Glasgow won’t have multiple stadiums. Unless they try and blag Old Trafford as being in Salford not Manchester I guess.

 

That’s why it’s becoming more and more difficult to host in a single country as the tournaments get expanded. Our World Cup 2018 bid had planned 40,000 seater stadiums being built in cities like Plymouth and Milton Keynes.

Ironically Twickenham would make the perfect North/South divide of London but highly doubt that will happen. RFU more likely to hold concerts than alternative sports 

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Can see Everton as a more likely host in 2028. Far more jazzy for UEFA

Anfield with its redevelopment is a bigger stadium so will get the pull of it I think. 

[Sampson]

Yeah, Murrayfield, Twickenham and Croke Park would all be great, but I can't see their governing bodies allowing it.

Croke Park as a semi-final stadium would be brilliant.

[rico]

We will be 40k by then so would we have a chance of hosting?

[Scotch]

23 minutes ago, rico said:

We will be 40k by then so would we have a chance of hosting?

I would certainly imagine there would be teams wanting to use our training facility as a base at the very least. 

[Blue ROI]

3 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I think they are crying out for the cash after covid. Alongside that the GAA want Casement Park redeveloped badly, whilst planning has been submitted, they have struggling with funding. A Euro tournament might get more commitment from local governments where they would previously not touch it with a bargepole. There's a very obvious issue with Northern Ireland playing there to given it's name though. 

 

Didn't make the news but Cork's Gaelic ground was used for soccer in 2018 as well as Croke Park before that. 

The GAA took a hit during Covid alright but It gets huge crowds relative to size and there is no end of promotion that goes on at club/county level. Its not the first challenge to it but it always gets by. Not being a professional sport helps.

 

It might push through Casement Park. Politics is possibly a factor in that but Clones in Monaghan is almost the perfect spot for Ulster. Its the centre of Ulster Gaelic Football. Antrim is a backwater in all honesty in GAA terms. 2nd biggest population behind Dublin but has never won a Senior All Ireland.  Building a stadium in Belfast for GAA is like building a Football one for FA cup semi finals/Internationals in Cornwall! Its unlikely to have a full house or close to it 20x a year a la King Power. Unless Antrim improves at county level but that's a big if.

 

Croke Park is perfect as its in an ideal location. Cork just about gets away with it too and it has stronger attendance/culture at local level than Antrim.

 

FWIW the pitch dimensions for GAA make soccer/football a bit less enjoyable for me. Irelands games in 2007-08 were a tough watch with the dimensions of the ground (and the Staunton management of course). The crowd were out of shot for a lot of it. A bit like MCG in Melbourne hosting Socceroos World Cup qualifiers.

[KrefelderFox666]

2 hours ago, rico said:

We will be 40k by then so would we have a chance of hosting?

We'll also have a much larger hospitality/corporate area which will suffice UEFA requirements.

[stripeyfox]

I'd say we'd be in with a reasonable shout of getting some games with an expanded KP. 

 

It will be a big tournament with lots of venues, and although some will be in the other nations, the majority will be in England and likely to be spread around. So it follows that the East Midlands should be represented and that being the case, it would probably be a toss up between us and the redeveloped City Ground.

 

 

[Nalis]

4 hours ago, Blue ROI said:

The GAA took a hit during Covid alright but It gets huge crowds relative to size and there is no end of promotion that goes on at club/county level. Its not the first challenge to it but it always gets by. Not being a professional sport helps.

 

It might push through Casement Park. Politics is possibly a factor in that but Clones in Monaghan is almost the perfect spot for Ulster. Its the centre of Ulster Gaelic Football. Antrim is a backwater in all honesty in GAA terms. 2nd biggest population behind Dublin but has never won a Senior All Ireland.  Building a stadium in Belfast for GAA is like building a Football one for FA cup semi finals/Internationals in Cornwall! Its unlikely to have a full house or close to it 20x a year a la King Power. Unless Antrim improves at county level but that's a big if.

 

Croke Park is perfect as its in an ideal location. Cork just about gets away with it too and it has stronger attendance/culture at local level than Antrim.

 

FWIW the pitch dimensions for GAA make soccer/football a bit less enjoyable for me. Irelands games in 2007-08 were a tough watch with the dimensions of the ground (and the Staunton management of course). The crowd were out of shot for a lot of it. A bit like MCG in Melbourne hosting Socceroos World Cup qualifiers.

As an Antrim man I sadly agree!

 

A Northern Ireland national stadium of 40k would be a white elephant for various reasons. 

 

- National Stadium (former Windsor Park) has a perfect capacity that matches demand whilst offering a decent atmosphere

- Ditto Ravenhill

- 40k stadium would only work on once in every 10 year sort of big games, like a world cup play off or a Heineken cup semi final.

- If GAA was facilitated the above would also apply and also dampened the football/rugby pitchside atmosphere 

- The site would probably be Maze which is miles outside Belfast and in the middle of nowhere, the complete opposite of the Millennium Stadium and St James' Park match days and the atmospheres in Cardiff and Newcastle respectively.

[boots60]

Will this mean all the UK nations & Rep of Ireland all qualify as host nations?

 

[Blue ROI]

1 hour ago, Nalis said:

As an Antrim man I sadly agree!

 

A Northern Ireland national stadium of 40k would be a white elephant for various reasons. 

 

- National Stadium (former Windsor Park) has a perfect capacity that matches demand whilst offering a decent atmosphere

- Ditto Ravenhill

- 40k stadium would only work on once in every 10 year sort of big games, like a world cup play off or a Heineken cup semi final.

- If GAA was facilitated the above would also apply and also dampened the football/rugby pitchside atmosphere 

- The site would probably be Maze which is miles outside Belfast and in the middle of nowhere, the complete opposite of the Millennium Stadium and St James' Park match days and the atmospheres in Cardiff and Newcastle respectively.

You'd want a Germany v France level game to justify a NI stadium for 2028.

 

No point building it for Albania v Sweden.

[davieG]

11 minutes ago, boots60 said:

Will this mean all the UK nations & Rep of Ireland all qualify as host nations?

 

efa is expected to expand the tournament from 24 teams at Euro 2024 in Germany to 32 teams for 2028. Under Uefa’s rules for co-hosting however, it is likely that none of the five host nations will qualify automatically.

[boots60]

Glentoran's The Oval has a current safety capacity of 6,000.

It is a massive ground largely left empty because Glentoran are skint & have been for decades & with modernisation & a fair bit of uefa cash could easily be transformed into a 30,000 + stadium.

[Nalis]

1 hour ago, boots60 said:

Glentoran's The Oval has a current safety capacity of 6,000.

It is a massive ground largely left empty because Glentoran are skint & have been for decades & with modernisation & a fair bit of uefa cash could easily be transformed into a 30,000 + stadium.

The Oval is on many a ground hopper's hit list so the international hipsters wouldnt be happy. 

 

The reat of us think its a shithole. I caveat that my saying I havent been since the 90s but it doesnt sound like much has changed.

[Leicesterpool]

It would pee me off more if we get snubbed again yet Stadium:mk gets selected still haven't got over that.

[Nalis]

1 hour ago, Leicesterpool said:

It would pee me off more if we get snubbed again yet Stadium:mk gets selected still haven't got over that.

Yeah that was a joke. I can understand Plymouth since its in a completely unrepresented part of the country but MK was odd given the close proximity to London and the London stadiums.

[CosbehFox]

Both Turkey and hilariously Russia have raised interests in hosting 

[Footballwipe]

56 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Both Turkey and hilariously Russia have raised interests in hosting 

Turkey have tried to get every Euros tournament  since Euro 2008. They're almost humiliating themselves at this point.

[goose2010]

Russia or The UK ?? Well how we have done with recent attempts to host major tournaments i think we should all respect Uefa's decision of giving it to Russia

[CosbehFox]

23 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Turkey have tried to get every Euros tournament  since Euro 2008. They're almost humiliating themselves at this point.

Got some decent modern stadiums but the infrastructure is appalling 

[The Year Of The Fox]

Absolute scenes when Russia get this awarded ahead of us