Five charged over Forest FA Cup violence

[Matt_Lcfc]

31 minutes ago, K1FOX said:

Not saying it is what happened but how do you know those in the pub weren't game and then hid inside?

This would not happen. If this was the real Forest hardcore (which is the most important part) then they would have not hid whilst their pub was being smashed up. 
 

It is strange though. I mean, if you were up for it then why wouldn’t you prearrange it? Smashing a pub right up in the city centre is just a fast track to get arrested - especially with the level of technology that the police have. 

Edited 28 March 2022 by Matt_Lcfc

[tylesta]

8 minutes ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

This would not happen. If this was the real Forest hardcore (which is the most important part) then they would have not hid whilst their pub was being smashed up. 
 

It is strange though. I mean, if you were up for it then why wouldn’t you prearrange it? Smashing a pub right up in the city centre is just a fast track to get arrested - especially with the level of technology that the police have. 

You dont know what you are on about pal

[Mike Oxlong]

If you go to football to have a “dust up” then you’re an even bigger knob than me. 

Edited 28 March 2022 by Mike Oxlong

[los dedos]

4 hours ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

This would not happen. If this was the real Forest hardcore (which is the most important part) then they would have not hid whilst their pub was being smashed up. 
 

It is strange though. I mean, if you were up for it then why wouldn’t you prearrange it? Smashing a pub right up in the city centre is just a fast track to get arrested - especially with the level of technology that the police have. 

OK Boatsy 🤣

[weller54]

5 hours ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

This would not happen. If this was the real Forest hardcore (which is the most important part) then they would have not hid whilst their pub was being smashed up. 
 

It is strange though. I mean, if you were up for it then why wouldn’t you prearrange it? Smashing a pub right up in the city centre is just a fast track to get arrested - especially with the level of technology that the police have. 

Whistles and truncheons?

[tylesta]

On 28/03/2022 at 15:56, K1FOX said:

Not saying it is what happened but how do you know those in the pub weren't game and then hid inside?

Sort of quite right, as leicester was walking  past some xome out of fat cat and threw bottles then when it got heavy went back in the pub, this was caught on cctv aswell

 

Also giving willy puller signs and all that

Edited 20 April 2022 by tylesta

[rico]

Those who were up court today have been released on bail but been told to expect to be locked up for about 2 years in July

[Ric Flair]

9 minutes ago, rico said:

Those who were up court today have been released on bail but been told to expect to be locked up for about 2 years in July

Sentencing over football related crimes is so much worse than if it was a similar offence outside of a perceived football environment. Bizarre

[Joe90lcfc]

55 minutes ago, rico said:

Those who were up court today have been released on bail but been told to expect to be locked up for about 2 years in July

That is really really harsh tbf, so weird, you can drink drive and kill someone on the road, or invade and  burgle someone’s home, and still get less time time, then throwing a chair at a pub window!! 

[Freeman's Wharfer]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Sentencing over football related crimes is so much worse than if it was a similar offence outside of a perceived football environment. Bizarre

Hangover from a Thatcher government 

[The Year Of The Fox]

God knows what Flintys gonna do with his new barber shop 😂

 

Edited 20 April 2022 by The Year Of The Fox

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Sentencing over football related crimes is so much worse than if it was a similar offence outside of a perceived football environment. Bizarre

It is a little strange, alway been a lot of heavy hand policing in football.

 

But little sympathy for them.

 

[Ric Flair]

35 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

It is a little strange, alway been a lot of heavy hand policing in football.

 

But little sympathy for them.

 

I don't get how it's allowed though, I'm surprised there hasn't been a challenge to this in recent years as its way out of kilter. 

[Mike Oxlong]

1 hour ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

God knows what Flintys gonna do with his new barber shop 😂

 

Shame. I’d booked myself in for a perm 

[He aint bald]

3 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Hangover from a Thatcher government 

bringing left and right into everything and not knowing your arse from your elbow.

essential knowledge that was, when there were nowt left to chuck at the windows

[He aint bald]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I don't get how it's allowed though, I'm surprised there hasn't been a challenge to this in recent years as its way out of kilter. 

Saw the heavy handed response in Madrid and still argued with the police, called them Francistas and got nothing more than glares

Saw Leicester fans biffing each other that night and kept well out of the way

Over the years football fans have earned their special treatment

[ozleicester]

5 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Sentencing over football related crimes is so much worse than if it was a similar offence outside of a perceived football environment. Bizarre

The problem (IMO) is not with the excess of  "in football" sentencing, but the weakness of "outside football" sentences.

[marbles]

9 hours ago, Joe90lcfc said:

That is really really harsh tbf, so weird, you can drink drive and kill someone on the road, or invade and  burgle someone’s home, and still get less time time, then throwing a chair at a pub window!! 

I think you have the wrong approach.  
The other punishments are not severe enough, and that’s what needs to change.  Not used as a ceiling for other crimes.

[Ric Flair]

5 hours ago, ozleicester said:

The problem (IMO) is not with the excess of  "in football" sentencing, but the weakness of "outside football" sentences.

Yeah possibly, there's a whole debate over whether harsher convictions might stamp out the majority of it or more than likely just cause a huge strain on the prison and correctional system and the likelihood of rehabilitation or education very remote. 

 

It's not as if the trouble being caused at football games is happening at a greater frequency than non-football incidents like it may have felt in the 80's. You can't treat adults that differently. This notion they've brought it on themselves over the years is a dangerous perception, its like saying ethnic minorities or people in poverty who sadly turn to crime more than those more fortunate have brought it on themselves over the years and that's why they continue to get harsher convictions than those more fortunate who go on to commit similar crimes.

 

I'm not saying the above doesn't happen, it may well do given the prejudices we still see in our world but as a reason for it its deeply unacceptable. 

[Guest Lako42]

9 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

God knows what Flintys gonna do with his new barber shop 😂

 

Utter pricks like this always seem to land on their feet. 

 

Wonder how he got the money........ 

[The Year Of The Fox]

2 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Utter pricks like this always seem to land on their feet. 

 

Wonder how he got the money........ 

He’s had more businesses than Alan Sugar since his Dyson scam 

[LinekersLugs]

11 hours ago, rico said:

Those who were up court today have been released on bail but been told to expect to be locked up for about 2 years in July

Good we need to send a clear message that this behaviour is unacceptable and the consequences are real, the terrified children in the videos I saw will not be able to forget those scenes easily ! 
 

football is a sport not a Means to commit acts of violence on innocent people 

 

those people shamed us all 

[Chrysalis]

Its anti social behaviour and should be clamped down upon in my opinion, shameful behaviour.

[tylesta]

1 hour ago, LinekersLugs said:

Good we need to send a clear message that this behaviour is unacceptable and the consequences are real, the terrified children in the videos I saw will not be able to forget those scenes easily ! 
 

football is a sport not a Means to commit acts of violence on innocent people 

 

those people shamed us all 

What video?

[majaco]

8 hours ago, He aint bald said:

bringing left and right into everything and not knowing your arse from your elbow.

essential knowledge that was, when there were nowt left to chuck at the windows

I'll put this into Google translate.