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Danny Ward

By lcfcfoz, in Leicester City Forum

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Weller Wing

Weller Wing

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15 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

I'm not saying he's not within his rights. It's the argument that he or any multi millionaire footballer is doing something like this to secure their families future. They are already loaded beyond belief. It's just greed by this point. Same thing happens when a big 6 club buys a player and doubles their wages. People bang on about how it will secure their families future, you cant turn that down etc but it's already well secure by then. What it does is allow them to buy a new mansion or car a week or two quicker.

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For an example,  I'd say Jordan Henderson was pretty financially secure very soon after joining Liverpool,  if not before.

 

He really didn't need the overseas money ,especially after his outbursts supporting certain groups.

 

 

Dahnsouff

Dahnsouff

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1 minute ago, bovril said:

I think he might have had the most negative impact on our team I've ever seen one player have. That's mostly because of the nature of the goalkeeping position of course. We've had worse players at this level like Junior Lewis but I can't think of one guy who has so lowered our team's potential on his own. 

Dennis Wise? No seriously, you are probably right, but even then he could not do it all on his own.

funkyrobot

funkyrobot

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12 hours ago, Sly said:

That’s ok Rodgers, not Ward. 
 

Player form goes up and down. He should have been dropped for the slightly better shot stopper Iversen. He also isn’t particularly great and treats the football like it needs to leave the pitch immediately. 

I assume you mean ‘that’s on Rodgers not Ward?’

Yes it was almost criminal for Rodgers to select Ward. I always assumed he did it to try and get sacked. However, this thread is about Ward and once he’s selected he has no one to blame other than himself for his performances. As I said, due to the damage he caused in being a major factor in our relegation and the subsequent ongoing state of the club due to this relegation - Ward has to be the worst goalkeeper to ever play for LCFC. 

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Trumpet

Trumpet

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This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but Danny Ward isn’t going to be incredibly wealthy. 
 

He’s probably averaged 20k a week for 10 years. After tax it’s about £5m. He’s obviously spent some of that to live and enjoy the standard of life that that kind of money affords. When he retires, if he’s got £3-5m in the bank it’d be quite easy to chip away at that over the next 30 years. It’s certainly an amount of money you’d have to have a plan for.

 

Anyway, I don’t blame him for seeing out his contract and not wanting to play football. More fool those above him that put the contract in front of him.

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Foxy-Lady

Foxy-Lady

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55 minutes ago, Trumpet said:

This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but Danny Ward isn’t going to be incredibly wealthy. 
 

He’s probably averaged 20k a week for 10 years. After tax it’s about £5m. He’s obviously spent some of that to live and enjoy the standard of life that that kind of money affords. When he retires, if he’s got £3-5m in the bank it’d be quite easy to chip away at that over the next 30 years. It’s certainly an amount of money you’d have to have a plan for.

 

Anyway, I don’t blame him for seeing out his contract and not wanting to play football. More fool those above him that put the contract in front of him.

This is not really relevant to the whole point of Wards competence/incompetence but......i very much doubt he would be keeping that much money in the bank? 

Why would anyone just have £3-5m sitting in a bank account gaining very little interest?

 

if hes got even an ounce of sense, he will almost certainly have invested it in rental properties etc that will already have secured him a comfortable income for the rest of his life when he retires. Just like harvey Barnes has already done and just like Harveys dad did before him on lower league wages!.

 

make NO mistake, unless Ward has got a serious gambling/cocaine habit that he has been funding or hes an absolute idiot.....Danny Ward will already be financially secure for life as would anyone with £3-5m to invest in rental property!

 

Anyhow, none of that answers the question of how shit he is and whether he increases our chances of staying in the PL with him between the sticks...?

 

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Trumpet

Trumpet

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11 hours ago, Foxy-Lady said:

This is not really relevant to the whole point of Wards competence/incompetence but......i very much doubt he would be keeping that much money in the bank? 

Why would anyone just have £3-5m sitting in a bank account gaining very little interest?

 

if hes got even an ounce of sense, he will almost certainly have invested it in rental properties etc that will already have secured him a comfortable income for the rest of his life when he retires. Just like harvey Barnes has already done and just like Harveys dad did before him on lower league wages!.

 

make NO mistake, unless Ward has got a serious gambling/cocaine habit that he has been funding or hes an absolute idiot.....Danny Ward will already be financially secure for life as would anyone with £3-5m to invest in rental property!

 

Anyhow, none of that answers the question of how shit he is and whether he increases our chances of staying in the PL with him between the sticks...?

 

It was more a figure of speech as opposed to an actual insight as to how Danny manages his finances. There are lots of ways to make that kind of money work for you and equally lots of ways to squander it - see Lee Hendrie.

 

Anyway, this probably isn’t the place for financial advice but you raise some valid points.

murphy

murphy

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15 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

He is a poor keeper and seeing Mads only emphasises this conclusion, but claiming he is at fault for our demise is utter denial.
 

Win or fail, football is a team game on and off the pitch, no one individual is ever fully to blame.

I guess there were lots of contributory factors to our relegation but the one, monumental, avoidable and catastrophic factor that dwarfed all others, was playing two thirds of the season without a proper goalkeeper.  Had we fixed that sooner, we stay up comfortably in my opinion.  He has set us back a decade.

 

 

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Dahnsouff

Dahnsouff

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10 minutes ago, murphy said:

I guess there were lots of contributory factors to our relegation but the one, monumental, avoidable and catastrophic factor that dwarfed all others, was playing two thirds of the season without a proper goalkeeper.  Had we fixed that sooner, we stay up comfortably in my opinion.  He has set us back a decade.

So you view the goalkeeper's failings as more or a contributing factor than the manager? The manager who left us drawn inextricably towards that relegation sinkhole without a meaningful action to prevent it?

 

If so, then we would certainly have to agree to disagree on this score I think.

dmayne7

dmayne7

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13 hours ago, Trumpet said:

This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but Danny Ward isn’t going to be incredibly wealthy. 
 

He’s probably averaged 20k a week for 10 years. After tax it’s about £5m. He’s obviously spent some of that to live and enjoy the standard of life that that kind of money affords. When he retires, if he’s got £3-5m in the bank it’d be quite easy to chip away at that over the next 30 years. It’s certainly an amount of money you’d have to have a plan for.

 

Anyway, I don’t blame him for seeing out his contract and not wanting to play football. More fool those above him that put the contract in front of him.

Completely different to be earning that money in such a short space of time though. Enables you to be free of mortgages or other loans. Plus it gives you all that money to invest, even in the safest investments or getting a base interest rate, you'd still be earning plenty.

 

The only way you'd struggle on that is because you had a dodgy financial advisor who took your money, some utterly life altering event or a crippling addiction where you piss it away.

Foxy DK

Foxy DK

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If Mads isn’t fit and Ward starts instead of Iversen it’s Ruud out for me. 
 

edit: in the squad, I mean, not starts.

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Paninistickers

Paninistickers

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52 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Completely different to be earning that money in such a short space of time though. Enables you to be free of mortgages or other loans. Plus it gives you all that money to invest, even in the safest investments or getting a base interest rate, you'd still be earning plenty.

 

The only way you'd struggle on that is because you had a dodgy financial advisor who took your money, some utterly life altering event or a crippling addiction where you piss it away.

He'd get around 90k a month after tax. For around seven years. 

 

Assuming his general living expenses are around 5k a month, pension 20k a month and a five year loan repayment to cover a 1m house of 20k a month. 

 

I guess he may well stuff money away for his kids (let's say two) to have a private education each for 12 years he'd need to beaver away a good 15k a month to cover those are long after his career has ended. 

 

Still leaves 30k a month fun money ...edit, but I reckon there's quite a few players who are terrified of never earning that amount again and end up being quite frugal knowing the good times won't last

 

 

 

 

 

 

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murphy

murphy

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1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

So you view the goalkeeper's failings as more or a contributing factor than the manager? The manager who left us drawn inextricably towards that relegation sinkhole without a meaningful action to prevent it?

 

If so, then we would certainly have to agree to disagree on this score I think.

I suppose what I am saying is that Danny Ward easily cost us enough points to relegate us that season.   Whether you blame Rodgers for picking him, Top for not sacking Rodgers for picking him, Danny's mum and dad or Danny himself for dereliction of duty is debatable, but the fact we didn't have a proper goalkeeper was ultimately what cost us.

 

 

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Dahnsouff

Dahnsouff

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9 minutes ago, murphy said:

I suppose what I am saying is that Danny Ward easily cost us enough points to relegate us that season.   Whether you blame Rodgers for picking him, Top for not sacking Rodgers for picking him, Danny's mum and dad or Danny himself for dereliction of duty is debatable, but the fact we didn't have a proper goalkeeper was ultimately what cost us.

 

 

Yes, I think there is so much blame to go around from that season, it’s quite easy to make a case for any of the main protagonists

Father Ted

Father Ted

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3 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

do we reckon hes the worse keeper we've seen at the club?

who has been given the chance of being number 1?

 

id say hes the worst i can remember

The six that we had in League One were all considerably better than him too. Then you have Pressman, Douglas, Henderson… yeah I’m still going with them over Ward.

 

Even Conrad Logan, past and present!

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Graceroad

Graceroad

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18 hours ago, Trumpet said:

This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but Danny Ward isn’t going to be incredibly wealthy. 
 

He’s probably averaged 20k a week for 10 years. After tax it’s about £5m. He’s obviously spent some of that to live and enjoy the standard of life that that kind of money affords. When he retires, if he’s got £3-5m in the bank it’d be quite easy to chip away at that over the next 30 years. It’s certainly an amount of money you’d have to have a plan for.

 

Anyway, I don’t blame him for seeing out his contract and not wanting to play football. More fool those above him that put the contract in front of him.

You are forgetting  we paid 11M for him so he would also have banked around 1M out of that not too mention various sponsorship  deals

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