Recruitment strategy under the spotlight

[samarium62]

55 minutes ago, LFox99 said:

Then again it was said that Congerton had already done the work for summer before he left for Italy, so Glover not being here shouldn't have been an issue

to me it seems more like the board dropped the ball a bit here

Wouldn’t blame the board if they threw out Congerton’s suggestions. Very hit or miss imo. But yes, that would be poor planning from the board.

[Ric Flair]

11 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

Yeah possibly, but what happens though if we finish around 7th or 8th this season, if that is the case? Keep him and back him next summer? Or still get rid?

I don't think the plan is to sack him unless they have to, probably just want him to walk. If he does well and won't leave then maybe they begrudgingly carry on. I could be way off the mark but I've been through many scenarios on what and why we're doing what we're doing and none of them make much sense. I tell you the one that makes the least sense, this notion we have money available but aren't spending it until fringe players have left. It's not just that, no way.

[JimmyC74]

15 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

Yeah possibly, but what happens though if we finish around 7th or 8th this season, if that is the case? Keep him and back him next summer? Or still get rid?

Will BR be the person who dictates incomings or with Glover coming in could it be the recruitment team providing recommendations for the DofF and manager to sign off on? I’m not sure BR has as much power as perhaps he did.

 

Results will determine Rodger’s future but IMO it seems after this Summer it is increasingly likely there will be a parting of ways before too long.

 

 

[LFox99]

27 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I'm now more convinced than ever that the club no longer view Rodgers as the man to take us forward.

If that's the case then why aren't they sacking him? It's a really naive thing to say. The second the board doesn't back Brendan anymore, signings or not, is the moment he should be replaced because you simply can't have a healthy working relationship anymore and it would be to the detriment of our performance. Don't see how the board can possibly have lost faith in him after they managed to somehow be unaware of our own finances to the point that they were unable to tell Brendan whether he could actually make signings until just a few weeks ago.

Waiting for us to be down in the dumps just to be able to avoid having to pay Rodgers some compensation seems INCREDIBLY shortsighted. 

Edited 18 August 2022 by LFox99

[An Sionnach]

Since Chilwell , we have received less than £20 million in incoming transfer fees, we have had a pandemic and empty stadiums. Of course money is tight. However selling a key player like Fofana will not help much and any replacement of at least similar standing will demand roughly equal pay. There is no easy way out. 

[NasPb]

I don't view this as difficult 

 

We couldn't get off of bad contracts given by the board 

 

And bad transfers supported by Rodgers 

 

So realistically we can't sign anyone until qe get some dead wood out of Here 

[Bluearmyfox28]

My worry is the club are becoming so obsessed over the long term future of the club that they are being blind sided by the short term success, which can result in all long term planning being worth nothing. 
 

Seems to be a poor balance currently.

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I'm now more convinced than ever that the club no longer view Rodgers as the man to take us forward. Even if that is the case, pur actions this summer don't make a huge amount of sense but anyway you pose what we might be up to makes little sense wither from our actions or going along with the narrative that we just need to move a handful of fringe players on.

 

I think we are in a horrible position where we don't want to have to pay him or, nor back him and hope we can keep our powder dry until next summer and hope along the way he leaves.

I'm more convinced the reason is the club thought it would easier to move on the likes of Praet, Tielemans, Vesty and Perez, with a view to bring in 60-70m and the spending it. 

 

 

[JimmyC74]

38 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

I'm more convinced the reason is the club thought it would easier to move on the likes of Praet, Tielemans, Vesty and Perez, with a view to bring in 60-70m and the spending it. 

 

 

Yet you also here talk that no-one has bid for Youri in 2-yrs, Torino didn’t want to meet our asking price for Praet and Vesty has rejected potential offers as the wage was nowhere near what we are paying. Makes you wonder why they were confident of moving a few on? 

Edited 18 August 2022 by JimmyC74

[Ric Flair]

3 hours ago, LFox99 said:

If that's the case then why aren't they sacking him? It's a really naive thing to say. The second the board doesn't back Brendan anymore, signings or not, is the moment he should be replaced because you simply can't have a healthy working relationship anymore and it would be to the detriment of our performance. Don't see how the board can possibly have lost faith in him after they managed to somehow be unaware of our own finances to the point that they were unable to tell Brendan whether he could actually make signings until just a few weeks ago.

Waiting for us to be down in the dumps just to be able to avoid having to pay Rodgers some compensation seems INCREDIBLY shortsighted. 

Plenty of occasions in the past when teams stop backing their manager but don't sack him straight the way, I think the whole relationship between recruitment and the manager and club have broken down. We've backed Brendan to bring all the staff in he wanted and then very quickly both the head of medicine and his head of recruitment have been told they weren't having their contracts renewed. They are taking the fall for our recruitment and injury issues but being Rodgers men and with Glover delayed in joining us, I think they've lost all faith in Rodgers having his own way.

 

Probably relatively happy with his coaching ability and we already have a very strong starting XI so can tolerate what is going on, if Rodgers succeeds fine but if he walks just as fine on their eyes.

[LFox99]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Plenty of occasions in the past when teams stop backing their manager but don't sack him straight the way, I think the whole relationship between recruitment and the manager and club have broken down. We've backed Brendan to bring all the staff in he wanted and then very quickly both the head of medicine and his head of recruitment have been told they weren't having their contracts renewed. They are taking the fall for our recruitment and injury issues but being Rodgers men and with Glover delayed in joining us, I think they've lost all faith in Rodgers having his own way.

 

Probably relatively happy with his coaching ability and we already have a very strong starting XI so can tolerate what is going on, if Rodgers succeeds fine but if he walks just as fine on their eyes.

I doubt it, but **** knows

[Chrysalis]

On 14/08/2022 at 15:00, Foxxed said:

The Mercury claims out wage to earnings ratio is 105%, over 70% demanded by UEFA.

 

This claims our currently weekly salary (minus Kasper) is £1,900,000 a week. (It also claims we're still paying Lookman but it's the best source I can find) So from what I can work out, we've reduced our wage bill by about 6%.

 

So it's about 99%, if my calculations are correct. So we need to shave off about 550k a week.

 

According to the figures above, Soumare is on 80k. Tielemans is on 120k. Fofana is on 50k. So that's 250k gone by next season.

 

Vestergaard is on 75k. Hamza is on 60k. And Vardy will retire and that's 160k right there (and if not we'll need Perez and Bertrand off the books). And I think we've got more out of contract next season.

 

By next season we should be within the 70% mark. We just need the squad and replacement that could get us near Uefa qualification...

Soumare 22 years old, 80k as a starting salary. O_o.

[Grebfromgrebland]

11 hours ago, JimmyC74 said:

Yet you also here talk that no-one has bid for Youri in 2-yrs, Torino didn’t want to meet our asking price for Praet and Vesty has rejected potential offers as the wage was nowhere near what we are paying. Makes you wonder why they were confident of moving a few on? 

That's a long time to go still to move people out. Clubs will wait till we get (more) desperate.

[DezFox]

We obviously have some fringe payers getting paid a little too much and there is clearly an imbalance. However,  from the outside looking in, it doesn’t  seem like we have been blowing wages everywhere compared to our revenue. How on earth can we be the only team being impacted by this, are the other 19 just all fine, running smoothly. Seems a little strange. Plus it seems like we haven’t just  got it a little wrong it sound like we have complete f****d it!!? 

Edited 19 August 2022 by DezFox

[fairbanksh]

Not convinced by Rodgers at all as dialogue gets flimsier every day.

But what are Rudkin and Co playing at. Total shambles. Its undermining everything Top and family have built. Shameful 

[Dahnsouff]

Never understood why this purported rebuild was this year, when next year felt like a natural break/opportunity. Odd.

[Babylon]

On 18/08/2022 at 16:14, LFox99 said:

Same board who seemingly didn't figure out we couldn't actually sign anyone until pre-season was already well underway?

The new UEFA rules weren’t ratified until April, about 5 weeks before the end of the season. After that there would have to be a lot of digging into the details and number crunching to work out exactly what we’d need to do, and when, to enable us to comply. Presuming that’s what we are doing. 

[JimmyC74]

11 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Never understood why this purported rebuild was this year, when next year felt like a natural break/opportunity. Odd.

It was due to the decline in performances and buy the manager time - especially after our FA cup. BR saying we have identified the problem (not me) and will sort it in the Summer.

[moore_94]

Sat in a box for todays game

 

Said hello to Rudkin on the stairs on the way up, didn’t half wanna have a few words with him 

[JimJams]

Expletives? 

[Focks]

Interesting to hear on 5 Live just now how Leicester don't have any money now hence the lack on signings (Matt Upson speaking), and that Peter Schmeichel has heard from a contact that there is no money to spend until Fof, Madders, or Tielemans are sold.

 

I can understand that attitude from opposition fans on Twitter, but not from pundits who obviously haven't done any research into what they are talking about... Unless they know something we don't!

 

Could Schmeichel's contact be Schmeichel junior?

[Shane]

If we have no money we should promote a couple academy players. For example we have no back up left winger for Barnes so why not just promote Maswanhise?
 

Chris Richards, Aouar, Madueke and Hudson Odoi can get in the bin. 

 

Give us Wormleighton, Brunt, Braybrooke, Wanya and Maswanhise!! 

[JimmyC74]

31 minutes ago, Shane said:

If we have no money we should promote a couple academy players. For example we have no back up left winger for Barnes so why not just promote Maswanhise?
 

Chris Richards, Aouar, Madueke and Hudson Odoi can get in the bin. 

 

Give us Wormleighton, Brunt, Braybrooke, Wanya and Maswanhise!! 

Moving forward we definitely should be introducing some of the youth - in fact I am sure after Top’s investment in Seagrave he will want to see this (as a return on the investment).

 

Also the crowd respond positively to youth players coming through.

 

The balance is you don’t want to introduce too many when the team is underperforming. 

[An Sionnach]

Ten days to go , a struggling team under a failing manager and a club with financial challenges. We can't even overpay anyone anymore to get a deal done. Not an attractive proposition for any player , let alone somebody of class. Somehow we are going to have to fight our way out of this with what we have.

[majaco]

19 hours ago, Shane said:

If we have no money we should promote a couple academy players. For example we have no back up left winger for Barnes so why not just promote Maswanhise?
 

Chris Richards, Aouar, Madueke and Hudson Odoi can get in the bin. 

 

Give us Wormleighton, Brunt, Braybrooke, Wanya and Maswanhise!! 

Rodgers talked about lack of excitement at the start of the season.  Bringing in academy players would generate excitement.

 

Some players are obviously simply better than others.  If our academy players are good enough, they are old enough.

 

Alves coming on would generate energy in the crowd.  As would an appearance by Popov or Braybrooke.  Maswanhise, as pointed out, could be useful in the squad and get minutes.

 

Wright looked useful in pre-season.