Rodgers opens up on Leicester City transfer struggles but 'won't go to war' with club

[StanSP]

Just now, foxinsocks said:

Yours is hypothetical question.  Yes,   I would take the risk... I see the jorpordy but I would.. .. if we end up in the bottom half then of course we would consider our options. 

Yet, Playing Rodgers ball is a risk too... would you call for a new manager when he gets us to 17th or lower?   Or when?  

This is a more pressing question... as we are going to find out coz the club wont sack him and he hasnt got an alternative job.

It might be hypothetical but at least I'm not talking in absolutes like you, thinking its guaranteed we finish bottom? Despite never having done so since he joined and having to consider several factors impacting on the squad. 

 

And then you ask a hypothetical question - yes I probably would call for a new manager if he gets us to 17th or lower. But has Rodgers ever got us to that stage? Nope. 

 

The club won't sack him for various reasons. One is probably the cost to do so, and one other is probably that they see we could realistically finish top half or challenge for Europe again with a 'lighter' schedule and hopefully a fitter squad given this. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

I dont expect the club to sack him soon.  I was hoping he would find a new job.

Nor do I, but I didn't ask if you thought they'd sack him, I asked if, when he does inevitably leave -  whether that's when his contract runs out, when he leaves for another club, whatever - you think the board are going to replace him with manager with a different playing philosophy.

[Babylon]

25 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

I am just sick of his boring football.... and his buck passing.  I dont expect top 5... but I feel Rodgers is using us.

I admire your patience and philosophical  approach... but he makes me so cross 

I’m bored of the football as well, I’m sure that’s partly having won everything I ever dreamed of. But also his football.

 

I was far from patient with him last season, but at the end of the day I find it hard to argue to much with where we’ve finished. 

[foxinsocks]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

It might be hypothetical but at least I'm not talking in absolutes like you, thinking its guaranteed we finish bottom? Despite never having done so since he joined and having to consider several factors impacting on the squad. 

 

And then you ask a hypothetical question - yes I probably would call for a new manager if he gets us to 17th or lower. But has Rodgers ever got us to that stage? Nope. 

 

The club won't sack him for various reasons. One is probably the cost to do so, and one other is probably that they see we could realistically finish top half or challenge for Europe again with a 'lighter' schedule and hopefully a fitter squad given this. 

Both are hypothetical questions.  I readily admit playing more attacking football comes with a risk of bottom half points...  but personally think we would do better (I have been wrong b4)

Similarly i point out the rodgers ball comes with a risk of bottom half performance (I did not say this was definitely so)

Of the two risks I would take mine... however I am not in charge and we are going to find out how we do under Rodgers... hence my question to you.

  I hope we dont get anywhere near 17th... but I am interested in how bad things would have to get before others would change their pov on Rodgers .

[foxinsocks]

5 minutes ago, Guest said:

Nor do I, but I didn't ask if you thought they'd sack him, I asked if, when he does inevitably leave -  whether that's when his contract runs out, when he leaves for another club, whatever - you think the board are going to replace him with manager with a different playing philosophy.

I hope so... but am not sure they will

[StanSP]

4 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

Both are hypothetical questions.  I readily admit playing more attacking football comes with a risk of bottom half points...  but personally think we would do better (I have been wrong b4)

Similarly i point out the rodgers ball comes with a risk of bottom half performance (I did not say this was definitely so)

Of the two risks I would take mine... however I am not in charge and we are going to find out how we do under Rodgers... hence my question to you.

  I hope we dont get anywhere near 17th... but I am interested in how bad things would have to get before others would change their pov on Rodgers .

I changed my POV on Rodgers after the Forest cup loss. It was humiliating and devastating. 

 

It's a bit extreme to say it'd take us to get to 17th before people turn on Rodgers considering the general consensus on here that he should be gone by now. 

 

A bad start to the season (perhaps only 1 or 2 wins in first 5/6, or not being in top half after 10 (?) games is when the pressure may start to mount. That's just my hunch. Owners might think differently. 

 

[Matt]

45 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Would you be happier if we played 'attractive' football but finished bottom half? 

You do realise its not one or the other don't you?

 

This 'the way to play football' BS really has brainwashed people.

 

The sooner teams get identities back and **** the one size fits all style off the better, it's boring, the games boring.

 

For the record, if we're gonna be midtable which is my prediction i'll accept that (And that's where I get wound up with this 'entitled' thing that keeps being banded about) providing we play a form of exciting, attacking, forward football that I can get behind, which we won't, it'll be the tippy tappy, laborious, sideways and backwards, possession for possession sake, camping infront of our own 18 yard box I don't see how people can advocate that.

 

Besides what the point in making Europe if we can't handle it? That's a negative way of looking at it even by my standards but I see nothing but excuses for it, the injuries it's 'caused', the added games, the quick turnarounds, the contempt we've treated it with, it doesn't even seem to have gave us any more financial clout that teams not in Europe.

 

Anyway, I thought the way we are playing under Rodgers is 'attractive' in some/most peoples eyes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

 

47 minutes ago, Guest said:

Out of interest, when Rodgers does inevitably leave one way or the other, is it your belief or expectation that the board will look to appoint a manager with a totally different playing style given the success Rodgers has had with his? 

Unfortunately I think they will.

 

I said probably a couple of years back now, this instruction and direction of possession based football comes from a power that be within the club, the appointment of Puel and then Rodgers suggests that to me.

 

And this is where I think the club is abit '****ed up', we got players who don't suit the style, we continually sign players (Well, not this summer) the suit our 'old' style and not a possession style, but we've decided to take on a possession style that clear doesn't suit or produce an exciting style.

 

Many people were quick to claim we'd been 'found out' after winning the league, I heard many people claiming its not a 'sustainable' way of playing, this may be true and we were quick to rip it up but can anyone seriously tell me we've not been found out in this style? As i've said most teams play this way but we've gotta be one of the easiest teams to play against. Why not atleast try something else? Mix it up abit, don't be so ****ing easy, there's a time and place for all style so why play in one exclusive style, certainly such a bloody boring one.

 

Edited 17 July 2022 by Matt

[Le Renard]

I suspect it was the journalist using the phrase "go to war", and Rodgers just responded to the question, but why would anyone go to war with a football club?  Next it will be "the spirit of the Blitz" and put our "tin hats on".

Edited 17 July 2022 by Le Renard

[LestaAl]

It’s beginning to feel like BR having managed some highs will now be part of a  continued decline  until he or the club have had enough. 
…..but on a positive if it feels this depressing we have a habit of surprising our selves so maybe all is not lost😏

[StanSP]

7 minutes ago, Matt said:

You do realise its not one or the other don't you?

 

This 'the way to play football' BS really has brainwashed people.

 

The sooner teams get identities back and **** the one size fits all style off the better, it's boring, the games boring.

 

For the record, if we're gonna be midtable which is my prediction i'll accept that (And that's where I get wound up with this 'entitled' thing that keeps being banded about) providing we play a form of exciting, attacking, forward football that I can get behind, which we won't, it'll be the tippy tappy, laborious, sideways and backwards, possession for possession sake, camping infront of our own 18 yard box I don't see how people can advocate that.

 

Besides what the point in making Europe if we can't handle it? That's a negative way of looking at it even by my standards but I see nothing but excuses for it, the injuries it's 'caused', the added games, the quick turnarounds, the contempt we've treated it with, it doesn't even seem to have gave us any more financial clout that teams not in Europe.

Yes. I'm not stupid to think that narrow-mindedly. Of course the ideal situation is to play attacking football and finish top 7/in European places. 

 

I actually think we may see more attacking football without the European schedule this season. I never said it was 'the way to play football'. I was just contending with the argument made, with the fact that we didn't finish bottom half by playing riskier attacking football. 

I know you're frustrated with the game, it's quite clear your attitude toward the game and I can see how you feel that way. The money in the game makes me feel the same way - it's incredibly difficult to contend with the huge spending some clubs can afford to do. 

 

The Europe thing is just a comment made based on the current situation and actually seeing a positive in it - of course I want us to qualify for Europe again. But we're not in it this season so why not see the positive in that just for now? We don't have Europe so why not use that to our advantage? I don't see how that's looking at the situation negatively or approaching it so. I was gutted when we exited against Prague and then Roma. I wanted us to win any competition we were in, even more so Europe. For now, the advantage of not being it is the lighter schedule and therefore hopefully a more consistent selection of squad through fewer injuries, and hopefully from that we see consistency in results and momentum. Pointing that out literally isn't an 'excuse'. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

24 minutes ago, Matt said:

You do realise its not one or the other don't you?

 

This 'the way to play football' BS really has brainwashed people.

 

The sooner teams get identities back and **** the one size fits all style off the better, it's boring, the games boring.

 

For the record, if we're gonna be midtable which is my prediction i'll accept that (And that's where I get wound up with this 'entitled' thing that keeps being banded about) providing we play a form of exciting, attacking, forward football that I can get behind, which we won't, it'll be the tippy tappy, laborious, sideways and backwards, possession for possession sake, camping infront of our own 18 yard box I don't see how people can advocate that.

 

Besides what the point in making Europe if we can't handle it? That's a negative way of looking at it even by my standards but I see nothing but excuses for it, the injuries it's 'caused', the added games, the quick turnarounds, the contempt we've treated it with, it doesn't even seem to have gave us any more financial clout that teams not in Europe.

 

Anyway, I thought the way we are playing under Rodgers is 'attractive' in some/most peoples eyes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

 

Unfortunately I think they will.

 

I said probably a couple of years back now, this instruction and direction of possession based football comes from a power that be within the club, the appointment of Puel and then Rodgers suggests that to me.

 

And this is where I think the club is abit '****ed up', we got players who don't suit the style, we continually sign players (Well, not this summer) the suit our 'old' style and not a possession style, but we've decided to take on a possession style that clear doesn't suit or produce an exciting style.

 

Many people were quick to claim we'd been 'found out' after winning the league, I heard many people claiming its not a 'sustainable' way of playing, this may be true and we were quick to rip it up but can anyone seriously tell me we've not been found out in this style? As i've said most teams play this way but we've gotta be one of the easiest teams to play against. Why not atleast try something else? Mix it up abit, don't be so ****ing easy, there's a time and place for all style so why play in one exclusive style, certainly such a bloody boring one.

 

So glad you’re back posting on this forum

[Guest Col city fan]

The players clearly like and respect Brendan

The first team is a good side

They’ve all come back with no injuries

 

Where I disagree with a number of posters and where I’m concerned isn’t in the depth of the squad, it’s in the quality of it. For me, this is pure and simple.

 

If we get injuries to Little Wes abd Evans, Soyuncu and Amartey aren’t good enough. They just aren’t.

 

If Wilf is out for any length of time, Soumare and Mendy are both bang average.

 

If Maddison is injured, Perez will come in and play one great game, followed by three bad ones.

 

If Vardy is out for any length of time, we have to rely on Daka 

 

Injuries will either make or break this season. It won’t be about the players not wanting to play for Rodgers, it won’t be about them wanting to leave or their ‘heads being turned’ etc etc etc

 

It will be about quality. We just don’t have enough of it in depth. In my humble opinion

[AyewJoking]

Would we be the first team in Premier league history to make no signings the summer before a new season?

[moore_94]

3 minutes ago, Royston. said:

Would we be the first team in Premier league history to make no signings the summer before a new season?

Nah, Spurs in 18/19

[Sol thewall Bamba]

50 minutes ago, Alex_LCFC said:

Not his fault fofana got his leg snapped and Justin and Ricardo had acl. Vardy out half the season 

I'll give you Fofana. The rest are debatable. Like I say Rodgers never keeps squads fit, if you're happy believing it's just coincidence then fair enough but I don't.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I'll give you Fofana. The rest are debatable. Like I say Rodgers never keeps squads fit, if you're happy believing it's just coincidence then fair enough but I don't.

Ostriches 

[foxinsocks]

6 minutes ago, Royston. said:

Would we be the first team in Premier league history to make no signings the summer before a new season?

Great question.  Anyone know?

[foxinsocks]

3 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Nah, Spurs in 18/19

How did it work out for the manager?

[StanSP]

2 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

How did it work out for the manager?

He lasted the season and got Spurs to 4th place and CL Runner-up...

[moore_94]

1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I'll give you Fofana. The rest are debatable. Like I say Rodgers never keeps squads fit, if you're happy believing it's just coincidence then fair enough but I don't.

Justin doing ACL by falling awkwardly, and Ricardo who did his ACL in a tackle are debatable?

[foxinsocks]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

He lasted the season and got Spurs to 4th place and CL Runner-up...

Fingers crossed then.

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, moore_94 said:

Justin doing ACL by falling awkwardly, and Ricardo who did his ACL in a tackle are debatable?

I think they're pointing to Ricardo staying on after the initial impact with Grealish (?).

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

He lasted the season and got Spurs to 4th place and CL Runner-up...

Poch would be very welcome here

[Sol thewall Bamba]

5 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Justin doing ACL by falling awkwardly, and Ricardo who did his ACL in a tackle are debatable?

It's bigger picture though. We never used to have injuries like this and since BR has come in it's been getting worse and we having had a fully fit squad since the back end of 2019 iirc. Club Doctor is well known to be into alternative treatments etc. It all feeds into the same issue but if you think we'll be magically OK again then fair enough. Hopefully the injury Ndidi picked up the other day isn't anything serious.

[moore_94]

2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

It's bigger picture though. We never used to have injuries like this and since BR has come in it's been getting worse and we having had a fully fit squad since the back end of 2019 iirc. Club Doctor is well known to be into alternative treatments etc. It all feeds into the same issue but if you think we'll be magically OK again then fair enough. Hopefully the injury Ndidi picked up the other day isn't anything serious.

I don't think we will "magically" be okay.

 

But I personally think less football and more recovery time for the players will help to reduce the occurence of injuries compared to levels of the past 2 years or so.