Would we bounce straight back from the Championship?

[Larry_LCFC]

We were talking about this at work the other day and the general concensus was no. What does FoxesTalk think?

 

When you look at the creativity we are likely to lose in Maddison and Tielemans, you seriously start to wonder what we will become next season. That's not taking into account others that may not hang around.

 

Arguably the Championship is the most physical league in England and that is one of our biggest problems. We are absolutely bullied on and off the ball, and to be quite honest we don't look fit most of the time. Add the extra games including midweek and I see us struggling to get above the playoffs if we were to continue like this.

Imagine the injuries 🙄

[jonthefox]

The championship is a different beast all together. There's far too many clubs clued into that for us to bounce straight back. 

[AyewJoking]

Fùck no.

 

Say hello to 20 years in the wilderness.

 

There wont even be a premier league by the time we get back to the top flight.

 

In fact I'll probably be dead

[blueharmie]

No var.

Fake plastic fans gone - I can get a ticket.

Proper away games 

Atmosphere could become better .

My lad will love it, I grew up with walshy etc in the old division 1.

 

Bring it on you shambles of a club 

 

**** you Brendan and the board also.

 

Edit . I want king Nigel back.

 

Edited 1 April 2023 by blueharmie

[Cropwellfox]

It will be absolutely horrific, unlike Burnley who could pretty much reset with so many players out of contract etc, there’s no way teams are going to come in for a good number of our overpaid, out of form squad so we’ll be carrying very high wages for players who aren’t fit for championship football before we start to put together a squad that can challenge. Will therefore have to cash in on anyone decent to get some revenue in. See Sunderland / Wigan / Stoke for what is very likely to happen to us if we go down. 

[turlo]

even with players leaving in the summer and parachut payments our wage bill will cripple us in the championship next season and won't be much of a much needed squad refresh

[HybridFox]

I don't think we'll be as long in the wilderness as the last time but certainly won't be up straight away

Edited 1 April 2023 by TK95

[Motty]

With the tv money from the prem already spent and players contracts as they are i fear a double relegation

 

[Izzy]

No chance. We’ll end up doing a Derby I reckon 

[studentofthegame]

I would genuinely be more concerned about our financial stability than promotion

As it stands we have one of the highest paid managers in the league, around the 7th highest wage bill in the Prem and we just posted record losses of nearly 100 mil

Who in our squad realistically has a high enough value to recoup some serious money if we do go down, Tielemans, Soyuncu, Amartey, Mendy, Evans, Bertrand, Maddison, Ndidi, Iheanacho, Thomas, Praet, Vestergaard and Vardy all have contracts that expire by the end of 2024, yes it helps witht he wages significantly, but without absolutely gutting our squad we don't really have much to sell for a high enough value to cover the huge hit to our finances. We have also already signed away future prem tv money with the Macquarie bank loans so we will be in a bit of shit when it comes to that.

 

[StevieH]

 

8 minutes ago, blueharmie said:

No var.

Fake plastic fans gone - I can get a ticket.

Proper away games 

Atmosphere could become better .

My lad will love it, I grew up with walshy etc in the old division 1.

 

Bring it on you shambles of a club 

 

**** you Brendan and the board also.

 

Edit . I want king Nigel back.

 

Agree. Would rather see us doing well in Championship than struggling in Premier which is bound to happen with the likes of Maddison and Tielemans leaving.

[SemperEadem]

The Championship is a slog and a fight. You can’t see the whole ethos of the place changing to get to a place where we can battle it out like that.

[Sir Shep]

Yeah  financially we are buggered, I think it'll be league one before premier league. 

[Finnegan]

What makes this worse really is that it would be the single worst time we could possibly get relegated. We genuinely do need to sign quite a few players.

 

When you look at how many we have out of contract but then how much we're paying the ones we'd have left, we'd really be absolutely shafted. It really is critical we do not go down, it'd set us back half a decade or so even if we DID somehow bounce back up.

 

If we survive this year we probably still have enough clout from previous success that we can turn around and say, during recruitment, "yeah last year was a blip, world cup, freak season, etc" and whoever the new manager is (pleasegodalmighty) shouldn't have too many issues. But we go down? I don't think we're "big" enough or even "established" enough yet that if we have a recent relegation on our record we can sweep it off in the same way the likes of Newcastle or West Ham have done and get straight back to being a normal Premier League club afterwards.

We'll go back to being "newly promoted" Leicester City and have all the uncertainty that comes with it.

 

This is genuinely huge, far beyond the simple financial impact.

[Guest]

Presumably not a great deal of money for new signings and no desire to get rid of Rodgers irrespective of how poorly he performs so it'd be 46 games of us trying to play Barca style tiki taka with Magic Marc on the wing, Lewis Brunt as our inverted left back and George Hirst up front. Can't wait.

[funkyrobot]

1 minute ago, studentofthegame said:

I would genuinely be more concerned about our financial stability than promotion

As it stands we have one of the highest paid managers in the league, around the 7th highest wage bill in the Prem and we just posted record losses of nearly 100 mil

Who in our squad realistically has a high enough value to recoup some serious money if we do go down, Tielemans, Soyuncu, Amartey, Mendy, Evans, Bertrand, Maddison, Ndidi, Iheanacho, Thomas, Praet, Vestergaard and Vardy all have contracts that expire by the end of 2024, yes it helps witht he wages significantly, but without absolutely gutting our squad we don't really have much to sell for a high enough value to cover the huge hit to our finances. We have also already signed away future prem tv money with the Macquarie bank loans so we will be in a bit of shit when it comes to that.

 

Tielemans, Mendy, Soyuncu. Amartey, Evans and Bertrand are out of contract this summer. We’ll have no problem selling Madders and even Praet (the latter at a cut price.) I’d probably expect Castagne and Barnes to go too. Iheanacho will have teams interested in him as will Ricardo tho I wouldn’t be surprised if both stayed. The only players you’ve listed who may stay stuck on a bloated wage will be the unsellable ones ie Vardy(ready to retire), Vesty (because he refuses to leave due to a high wage) and Ndidi (form dropped to league 1 standard.) You could perhaps add Daka to that as he’s not looked worth his Premier League wage. Souttar, Faes and VK have a relegation wage clause at least, 

[BillyFOX12]

4 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Tielemans, Mendy, Soyuncu. Amartey, Evans and Bertrand are out of contract this summer. We’ll have no problem selling Madders and even Praet (the latter at a cut price.) I’d probably expect Castagne and Barnes to go too. Iheanacho will have teams interested in him as will Ricardo tho I wouldn’t be surprised if both stayed. The only players you’ve listed who may stay stuck on a bloated wage will be the unsellable ones ie Vardy(ready to retire), Vesty (because he refuses to leave due to a high wage) and Ndidi (form dropped to league 1 standard.) You could perhaps add Daka to that as he’s not looked worth his Premier League wage. Souttar, Faes and VK have a relegation wage clause at least, 

Surprised that you mention the unsellable ones without mentioning Danny Ward (also ready to retire).

[Tuna]

Hard to say - at the end of last season I wouldn't have thought Burnley would have run away with the title.

[FrankieADZ]

not a chance in hell

[st albans fox]

Fortunately we have a fabulous U21 group of players ready to step up …… 

[Sampson]

The gap is much bigger than it used to be, teams bounce back way more the past 5 or 6 years tbf. Many said Burnley would be down there for years but they've run away with it. Sheffield Utd were statistically got one of the lowest points total in PL history and looks like it's only taking them 2 seasons to get back too.

 

Depends which players we keep. I think the likes of Dewsbury-Hall, Daka and Faes could be decent players at Championship level tbh, even if they haven't been great at PL level.

Edited 1 April 2023 by Sampson

[funkyrobot]

4 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said:

Surprised that you mention the unsellable ones without mentioning Danny Ward (also ready to retire).

I have to pretend Danny Ward as a LCFC player doesn’t exist for my own health.😂 Actually he’s on a comparatively low wage compared to Vardy, Ndidi and Vesty. 

[Jono1604]

29 minutes ago, StevieH said:

 

Agree. Would rather see us doing well in Championship than struggling in Premier which is bound to happen with the likes of Maddison and Tielemans leaving.

I remember people saying that and we ended up in Div One  playing Stockport Co and Yeovil carefull what you wish for 

[the draper]

Rodgers will get first 15 games and we would be 20 pts off the top 6 

[the draper]

33 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

I would genuinely be more concerned about our financial stability than promotion

As it stands we have one of the highest paid managers in the league, around the 7th highest wage bill in the Prem and we just posted record losses of nearly 100 mil

Who in our squad realistically has a high enough value to recoup some serious money if we do go down, Tielemans, Soyuncu, Amartey, Mendy, Evans, Bertrand, Maddison, Ndidi, Iheanacho, Thomas, Praet, Vestergaard and Vardy all have contracts that expire by the end of 2024, yes it helps witht he wages significantly, but without absolutely gutting our squad we don't really have much to sell for a high enough value to cover the huge hit to our finances. We have also already signed away future prem tv money with the Macquarie bank loans so we will be in a bit of shit when it comes to that.

 

No debt