Our Next Manager

[Mendi]

Half of top family want o neil in. Jesse March now favourite because he spoken to club and top family are not sure on him. Top family want Martin return. The club are each other throat. It's been a shambles this season.

[RoboFox]

1 minute ago, Pliskin said:

Still have a feeling Porter will end up at the club. I know he’s boo-hood it now, but I just think that if we win on Saturday, then we might just pop another call in and tempt him. 

I think he will end up here, provided we stay in the league. He won’t go back into management until the summer so it’s a big, big gamble by the club relying on SAS to save our PL status.

 

Edited 6 April 2023 by RoboFox

[dylanlegend]

So we’d go for Marsch but not Biesla. Typical Leicester this 

[Jaspa]

Marsch come in from 7/1 to 4/1 last couple of hours on Sky, now leading their market.

[Mendi]

Just now, Jaspa said:

Marsch come in from 7/1 to 4/1 last couple of hours on Sky, now leading their market.

Because he has spoken to Susan and Top was not aware. Its all a car crash waiting to happen.

 

Jesse is not the answer.

[splinterdream]

Why the hell do they not consult football people, who is Susan Whelan and what does she know about football, is she mainly responsible for many errors at the club?

[Kasey Keller]

Anyone but Jesse ffs 

[Simoken]

Paul Merson spitting facts

 

“I can't, for the life of me, see how you can sack a manager before this game.

“Who's in charge at Leicester? I find it extraordinary.

“I don't think a draw does either team any favours, and I'm going to go with a Leicester City victory this weekend.”

 

#SACKTHEOWNER #NOMORESENTIMENT

[Phenom]

We are ****ing incompetent. We deserve to drop

[goody2028]

Just now, Phenom said:

We are ****ing incompetent. We deserve to drop

The whole club from pitch to ticket office to fan engagement is being ran at championship level isn’t it. 

[HankMarvin]

40 minutes ago, Mendi said:

Because he has spoken to Susan and Top was not aware. Its all a car crash waiting to happen.

 

Jesse is not the answer.

That would seem strange
She talks to candidates without the owners permission what a waste of time that would be. 
 

[chapero82]

15 minutes ago, goody2028 said:

The whole club from pitch to ticket office to fan engagement is being ran at championship level isn’t it. 

I was laughed on here a while back for stating this  only Vichai knew what he was doing

[Kasey Keller]

Get hassenhunterblower in 

just throw the kitchen sink at trying to stay in the division.

[Deeg67]

1 hour ago, dylanlegend said:

So we’d go for Marsch but not Biesla. Typical Leicester this 

Bielsa turned Leeds into a complete dumpster fire at the bottom of the table and Jesse managed to keep them up.  But I doubt he'd take the job under these circumstances for the same reason Ralph and Rafa wouldn't.

[Craig]

11 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Bielsa turned Leeds into a complete dumpster fire at the bottom of the table and Jesse managed to keep them up.  But I doubt he'd take the job under these circumstances for the same reason Ralph and Rafa wouldn't.

I was actually impressed with the way Marsch came into Leeds last season and managed the squad based on their strengths and made subtle tactical changes to gain some results, before fully implementing his style of play this season... which is obviously when things went a little wrong. 

it didn't go disastrously wrong for him though as they did a lot of good business whilst he was there and clearly he influenced that. Should they stay up they'll probably look back on him like we look back on Puel. 

 

I do think that in the short term someone like him or Hassenhuttl would be able to motivate this side, galvanise the fanbase with their 'PASSSHUNNN', and be at least competent enough to get a few results to keep us up. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Deeg67]

1 minute ago, Craig said:

I was actually impressed with the way Marsch came into Leeds last season and managed the squad based on their strengths and made subtle tactical changes to gain some results, before fully implementing his style of play this season... which is obviously when things went a little wrong. 

it didn't go disastrously wrong for him though as they did a lot of good business whilst he was there and clearly he influenced that. Should they stay up they'll probably look back on him like we look back on Puel. 

 

I do think that in the short term someone like him or Hassenhuttl would be able to motivate this side, galvanise the fanbase with their 'PASSSHUNNN', and be at least competent enough to get a few results to keep us up. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the issue is, Top wants the option to get rid of someone without paying off if they keep us up and he wants to hire Potter or his ilk for next season.  No way somebody like Jesse or Ralph wants anything to do with that.

 

Maybe if you offer a guaranteed 18 months at a decent salary, with an out clause if we're relegated, one of the Rafa/Marsch/Hasenpfeffer inc. group might take it even knowing they could get axed after keeping us up.  Top is going to have to bite the bullet and be ready to swallow a couple million in salary for next year if he wants an experienced hand to keep us up, unless he wants a relic like MON or Big Sam. 

[sacreblueits442]

11 hours ago, tinpot_fox said:

Set up a system with Ndidi in a free role to mop things up wherever, and hoof it up the pitch immediately, instead of an intricate delayed pass? 

....it was the right decision,  poorly executed!!!

[Aus Fox]

Marsch would be an utter disaster for the club, he spent as much in 2 transfer windows at Leeds as Rodgers spent in the last 6 at Leicester.

All for a 29% win rate compared to Rodgers 45%.

It was time for Rodgers to leave us, and he perhaps stayed too long, but Marsch would be another step backwards. 
He has done nothing in his career to suggest he can handle a Premier League club and when given the opportunity he flopped massively.

The names being floated around at the minute really are depressing, no way should we be looking at anyone who has been sacked by any of the other crap who  are floating down the bottom with us.

[cityfanlee23]

14 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Marsch would be an utter disaster for the club, he spent as much in 2 transfer windows at Leeds as Rodgers spent in the last 6 at Leicester.

All for a 29% win rate compared to Rodgers 45%.

It was time for Rodgers to leave us, and he perhaps stayed too long, but Marsch would be another step backwards. 
He has done nothing in his career to suggest he can handle a Premier League club and when given the opportunity he flopped massively.

The names being floated around at the minute really are depressing, no way should we be looking at anyone who has been sacked by any of the other crap who  are floating down the bottom with us.

Most of his signings would walk into our squad. Gnonto, Mckennie, Aaronson, Adams, Sinisterra, Marc Roca and Wober are all better than what we have based on the last 18 months.
He signed many young players like Rutter who will likely come good in future. 
In total in 2 windows he spent £145m on a much-needed rebuild that is going to last Leeds multiple years as a solid foundation. Brendan spent that much on bench warmers who are overpaid and have no future with us.  

I understand the scepticism around Marsch's record at Leeds, but his signings look absolutely spot on, and he took over an absolute dumpster fire at Leeds. Brendan took over a very well-run club and left it in a dumpster fire. 

Jesse Marsch at Leeds is very much like Puel at Leicester. He's seriously underrated IMO. 

Edit: Just to add, the Red Bull network is a VERY handy network to be a part of when looking to build a club. Marsch has been part of the network alongside Ralf Rangnick and learned directly from him in building it. What a lot of people don't know, is that multiple top clubs around the world use the Red Bull network for scouting players, coaches, and managers alongside things like collecting data on teams/players from their scouting system. Bayern Munich uses Red Bulls network. 

The players and managers that have come through their network over the years is very impressive. Jesse may not be the ideal solution right this moment, but he will come good somewhere, and he's definitely someone who given the chance will help rebuild a club with his contacts.

Edited 7 April 2023 by cityfanlee23

[HybridFox]

1 hour ago, Simoken said:

Paul Merson spitting facts

 

“I can't, for the life of me, see how you can sack a manager before this game.

“Who's in charge at Leicester? I find it extraordinary.

“I don't think a draw does either team any favours, and I'm going to go with a Leicester City victory this weekend.”

 

#SACKTHEOWNER #NOMORESENTIMENT

Let's not pretend Brendan would have taken anything from these two games 

[Aus Fox]

10 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Most of his signings would walk into our squad. Gnonto, Mckennie, Aaronson, Adams, Sinisterra, Marc Roca and Wober are all better than what we have based on the last 18 months.
He signed many young players like Rutter who will likely come good in future. 
In total in 2 windows he spent £145m on a much-needed rebuild that is going to last Leeds multiple years as a solid foundation. Brendan spent that much on bench warmers who are overpaid and have no future with us.  

I understand the scepticism around Marsch's record at Leeds, but his signings look absolutely spot on, and he took over an absolute dumpster fire at Leeds. Brendan took over a very well-run club and left it in a dumpster fire. 

Jesse Marsch at Leeds is very much like Puel at Leicester. He's seriously underrated IMO. 

Edit: Just to add, the Red Bull network is a VERY handy network to be a part of when looking to build a club. Marsch has been part of the network alongside Ralf Rangnick and learned directly from him in building it. What a lot of people don't know, is that multiple top clubs around the world use the Red Bull network for scouting players, coaches, and managers alongside things like collecting data on teams/players from their scouting system. Bayern Munich uses Red Bulls network. 

The players and managers that have come through their network over the years is very impressive. Jesse may not be the ideal solution right this moment, but he will come good somewhere, and he's definitely someone who given the chance will help rebuild a club with his contacts.

So most would walk into our squad, yet here they are down and struggling with us. 
In essence you’re saying he’s had better players to choose from, and not got any better performance out of them? That doesn’t fill me with confidence. 
If he was to come in, he’s not going to get anywhere near £145 million to spend in the next two windows either.

I can’t see how anyone could see Marsch as anything but a failure in PL terms.

[cityfanlee23]

32 minutes ago, Craig said:

I was actually impressed with the way Marsch came into Leeds last season and managed the squad based on their strengths and made subtle tactical changes to gain some results, before fully implementing his style of play this season... which is obviously when things went a little wrong. 

it didn't go disastrously wrong for him though as they did a lot of good business whilst he was there and clearly he influenced that. Should they stay up they'll probably look back on him like we look back on Puel. 

 

I do think that in the short term someone like him or Hassenhuttl would be able to motivate this side, galvanise the fanbase with their 'PASSSHUNNN', and be at least competent enough to get a few results to keep us up. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fully agree that his style didn't really hit home this season, but also worth noting that throughout his career his style has always been the gegenpress as a base with tight compact passing in attack. It did not quite work at Leeds, but the players very rarely ever did it. There are multiple videos of him on the touchline screaming at players to push up, press as a team and making comments that the players are too scared to press. 
At the end of the day, the manager builds the tactics, if the players don't execute it the manager takes the flack. I think sometimes it's easy to blame the manager for players not implementing a style or a system. Jesse has done some work for "The Coaches Voice" on youtube, he's one of the most analytical managers I've ever seen.

[Craig]

18 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Marsch would be an utter disaster for the club, he spent as much in 2 transfer windows at Leeds as Rodgers spent in the last 6 at Leicester.

All for a 29% win rate compared to Rodgers 45%.

It was time for Rodgers to leave us, and he perhaps stayed too long, but Marsch would be another step backwards. 
He has done nothing in his career to suggest he can handle a Premier League club and when given the opportunity he flopped massively.

The names being floated around at the minute really are depressing, no way should we be looking at anyone who has been sacked by any of the other crap who  are floating down the bottom with us.

Rodgers has a 25% 'win rate' in the league this season with a supposedly far superior side to Leeds' last season. 

 

I don't want Marsch but let's not pretend he's lightyears behind where Rodgers has had us this season.

 

We need someone who can come in and get us enough points to stay in the division.

 

Marsch did that at Leeds last season and he did it well, most crucially in games vs sides around them. 

 

We are currently a club seemingly without any plan whatsoever.

 

The reality is that we could, and probably will, end up with a lot worse than somebody who performed last season exactly how we need now. 

 

 

[cityfanlee23]

Just now, Aus Fox said:

So most would walk into our squad, yet here they are down and struggling with us. 
In essence you’re saying he’s had better players to choose from, and not got any better performance out of them? That doesn’t fill me with confidence. 
If he was to come in, he’s not going to get anywhere near £145 million to spend in the next two windows either.

I can’t see how anyone could see Marsch as anything but a failure in PL terms.

I mean that's a bit of a reach. They would walk into our squad because we are absolutely dog water. Leeds play far better football than what we have been pumping out. The players he signed are generally young and hungry players with big futures ahead of them. Sure he failed in terms of raw results, and it's a results business, but with respect you're completely ignoring the complexities of football and just saying "would be a disaster 29%" 
I've said myself, do I think Jesse is the type to come in and keep us up? maybe, but it would be a 50/50, but long term I think he would do well, but that's just my view as I like the guy and have watched many of his analytical talks that he's done over the past 3-4 years. But for people who maybe haven't followed his career directly or seen how he works through his talks, I'm not surprised people wouldn't want him if we are going purely on his short time at Leeds.

[Craig]

And yes I would also take Ted Lasso at this stage (haven't seen the latest ep so don't ruin it).

 

I would also take Nate.