Our Next Manager

[5waller5]

9 minutes ago, Ian S said:

That is not what I said, hypothetically our plan could have been Benitez but he could now be playing hardball as he sees a potential offer coming in from Hammers.Things change incredibly quickly in football.

Our biggest error was not having a new manager in place at least 6 months ago, probably longer.

Exactly. We should have had a robust succession plan. I’m not sure how you’re disagreeing, even though you are making the same point!! 

[Pliskin]

Are journos just approaching every past manager to ask if they will come back? When will they be at Megson’s gaff? 

[Captain...]

23 minutes ago, Ian S said:

Give them a break, they had 48 hours probably not even a full training session and up against in my view a top tactical manager.This is not to say I want them in charge to the end of the season but let’s be fair, they had watched Palace have more attempts on goal against us than they probably had in the previous 20 games and thought we have to stop that first and foremost.So it didn’t work in the end , but for a brain fart we would have got a point and the response on here would have been very different.

And if you thought that was baaad then god knows what you have made of many games this season.

I expect a much improved performance and result Saturday.

These 2 have been closer to the squad than any of us, yet they shoved our most creative influence out wide, packed the midfield with 0 creativity including a woefully off form Ndidi,  picked our most out of form striker over our biggest goal threat this year.

 

As reductive as it might sound you go back to our last decent performance and pick that team and start from there. Apart from Iversen over Ward I would have picked the starting 11 that thrashed Spurs and said go for it again.

[Sly]

3 minutes ago, JimmyC74 said:

I wonder when the cut-off point is in terms of appointing a new mgr?

 

if no-one is appointed this week will anyone join with 8 games remaining?

 

 

 

 

I was told it would likely be Sadler until the end of the season if they couldn’t get one of the 3 or 4 identified targets. One being Benitez, another being Bielsa.
 

That apparently changed when Potter became available, however he turned the chance to even speak with us down. 
 

Apparently Benetiz and Bielsa don’t want it with so little number of games left either. 

[MPH]

12 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Nigel Pearson has ruled himself out of an unlikely return to Leicester City
 

I’ve managed them twice, I’ve managed the King Power's team (OH Leuven) in Belgium too.
"I really enjoyed working for them. The ship has sailed and I’m really happy to be here doing the job that I am doing here. 

"They will be looking to make a progression from where they are now. Revisiting things from the past isn’t always the way forward, let’s be honest. I’m fully committed to what I am doing here, it is as simple as that."

 

 

 

he’s worded it well, I’ll give him that.   but there’s a bit of a tease in there..

[MPH]

Steve Walsh  ( our hero) camping outside Top’s Office as we speak!

[Pliskin]

If there is an announcement tonight, you’d expect an article from Percy imminently.

[ClaphamFox]

6 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

 

Ha - Mike Stowell's own wikipedia page states he won two and drew one in 2011 between Eriksson and Pearson. Maybe he's been editing it himself? 

[Dames]

Just now, Sly said:

I was told it would likely be Sadler until the end of the season if they couldn’t get one of the 3 or 4 identified targets. One being Benitez, another being Bielsa.
 

That apparently changed when Potter became available, however he turned the chance to even speak with us down. 
 

Apparently Benetiz and Bielsa don’t want it with so little number of games left either. 

A lot of people aren't seeming to grasp this concept at the minute. We really aren't an attractive proposition right now.

 

We have 3 choices.

 

1) Appoint experienced short term manager until the summer than reassess, we will be a far more attractive proposition at this point.

2) Appoint a failed PL manager on a mid to long term contract and end up stuck with them (Hasenhuttl/Marsch/Puel round 2).

3) Chance a young up and comer that would require backing which ever division we are in. 

 

We know the club want Potter so its looking like option 1 and that pool of managers is going to be incredibly small. 

[Fox92]

5 minutes ago, Sly said:

I was told it would likely be Sadler until the end of the season if they couldn’t get one of the 3 or 4 identified targets. One being Benitez, another being Bielsa.
 

That apparently changed when Potter became available, however he turned the chance to even speak with us down. 
 

Apparently Benetiz and Bielsa don’t want it with so little number of games left either. 

I wouldn't want Bielsa near us. We need to stop conceding goals.

[fuchsntf]

Sorry dumped this first in wrong topic..so repeating myself..

 

 

I Never consider any FT poster,my adversary,even great that over periods we differ,or surprisingly agree,with same or slightly different perspective…

 

But on this topic of managers,what seriously popped up over these last few days,I despair, for us and other clubs…Pundits & fans shooting in a dark barrel,others just

very dark…

Mind you it could be. Souly me, & my crazy…prefer „to wait & see“  if,who what   the various Owners path they choose..obviously LCFC takes preference..

 

If I had a preference, it would be   „ none of the above“ 

[egg_fried_rice]

Ooo Nige you big tease - the bucket headed, tissue box shoed legend is absolutely up for a return.

Took Watford from 7 points adrift to 3 points clear when they sacked him.

 

This will be the fifth great escape he’ll mastermind - after Jimmy Glass at Carlisle and Southampton at our expense.

 

It’s written in the stars.

[Sly]

3 minutes ago, Dames said:

A lot of people aren't seeming to grasp this concept at the minute. We really aren't an attractive proposition right now.

 

We have 3 choices.

 

1) Appoint experienced short term manager until the summer than reassess, we will be a far more attractive proposition at this point.

2) Appoint a failed PL manager on a mid to long term contract and end up stuck with them (Hasenhuttl/Marsch/Puel round 2).

3) Chance a young up and comer that would require backing which ever division we are in. 

 

We know the club want Potter so its looking like option 1 and that pool of managers is going to be incredibly small. 

Apparently they like Frank as well. 
 

All points to a short term fix until the summer. 
 

We left this to long. Totally bizarre to give Rodgers the Palace game if I’m honest. 

[Fox 4 Life]

Where is the tease in that, people are reaching  he literally ruled himself out

[Dames]

3 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I wouldn't want Bielsa near us. We need to stop conceding goals.

With the curse of Seagrave still in effect the whole of Leicestershire would hear nothing but cruciates snapping for the 3 months he's here.

[Dames]

1 minute ago, Sly said:

Apparently they like Frank as well. 
 

All points to a short term fix until the summer. 
 

We left this to long. Totally bizarre to give Rodgers the Palace game if I’m honest. 

Potter or Frank are good solid appointments but neither would consider it until our status is secure. Agree on leaving it too long, we just have to hope the board don't panic again now and appoint some duffer on a 3 and a half year deal. 

[shiv]

2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

They're obviously getting Bournemouth anyway, it's in a couple of days. Even if we hire someone as an interim manager they'll have done all the prep and I'd expect their team selection to take precedent unless we bring in someone ENORMOUSLY strong willed with a VERY specific vision.

 

But to answer your question - yes, it was pretty awful.

 

I'm not actually in the "PANIC DOOM AND GLOOM" camp, watching Villa on Tuesday was actually the first time all season I've entertained the possibility we might get relegated and even then I shrugged it off as "we'll see after Bournemouth" because we've got a very kind remaining fixture list and a much better squad than we're credited with.

 

But come on, it was baaaad. The people coming out with "it wasn't really, we had a man sent off, the players at least looked like they cared!" are really clutching at straws. We made appalling tactical choices, surrendered all initiative and declined all opportunity to do what Palace did and use the occasion as a rousing springboard.

 

What really did it for me is that Sadler showed so much consistency with the bad decision making that actually got Rodgers sacked. When he goes and someone else steps in you're hoping for them to correct the mistakes of their predecessor. Instead he immediately returns Maddison to the right wing, persists with ignoring Iheanacho, doubles down on stacking defensive players and has us play a passive stand-off block. It was painful to watch long before the red card.

 

And Villa did nothing to deserve that respect, they were extremely average and only scored when we made silly mistakes. 

 

If they learn from it then I'm happy for them to stay. The players definitely did look mildly lifted, sure. But you've got to get Maddison back in the middle of the park, you've got to trust one of Tete or Praet to stretch the game on the right, you've got to make the hard choice between Ndidi OR Mendy and as much as we all love him, they've got to drop Vardy and pick one of Daka or Iheanacho to really commit to and build the team around because they're vastly different strikers and the build up play needs to match their skill set.

 

To me, all Adler represented against Villa was... no actual change. It was just business as usual, it was a bizarre Brendan Rodgers team selection, it was poor Brendan Rodgers substitutes. He was even stood on the side-lines clapping pointlessly. 

I’m going to disagree with some points here. The things Brendan was doing, in my view, had tried to be rectified with the team selection.

 

-I think it was less about playing a block, and more about avoiding a high line which has essentially cost us the majority of the season.

 

-Since moving centrally, Maddison has been woeful except for against Villa and Spurs which were clearly outlier results. Although he wasn’t back to his best I felt he had more space and was able to get in the pockets between midfield and attack. 

 

-KDH in a double pivot just doesn’t work. He’s been much more effective further up the pitch which is why he played Mendy alongside Wilf. With Tielemans out, Soumare being shite and Praet more of an attacking midfielder I don’t think there was much choice.

 

I do agree Kelechi or Daka should’ve started over Vardy though.

Edited 6 April 2023 by shiv

[Lionator]

32 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I wouldn't want Bielsa near us. We need to stop conceding goals.

On the other hand, this team has capability of scoring a good few so we’d win games 8-5 or something like that. 

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Disagree, if we appoint Benitez we are committing to a multi year contract and him being in charge as we enter our rebuild, he may well keep us up but guaranteed he will be being hounded out the club by October and we will be in a right old mess. For me it’s an interim to get us though the rest of this season of that is O’Neill or Sadler and Stowell then so be it, we have to back the players to be good enough to get us out of this mess, then reasses once the season concludes, if we stay up then we go for a progressive coach to take us forward, if we go down, we again look for an exciting progressive coach who can bring us back stronger. 

We might have to commit to 18 months, but we don't have to keep him for 18 months. 

[FoxinNotts]

5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

We might have to commit to 18 months, but we don't have to keep him for 18 months. 

Exactly. Same applies to any period of time. Just get the right man in, be prepared to have to pay them off, if it goes tits up. Same as its always been. Not my money anyway.

[LestaLad]

Get Puel back.

[Matt]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

Judging from reports, prior to the Palace game they weren't planning to get rid of Rodgers. It was that horror show that changed their minds, hence the lack of an action plan.

And this is where I’m critical.

 

How did it only just dawn on them?

 

Yes by my own admission I went early on Rodgers Out, I must have been one of the founder members, 2 years ago, 18 months ago, but to get to this point without any planning is quite unbelievable.

[Max Power]

4 minutes ago, Matt said:

And this is where I’m critical.

 

How did it only just dawn on them?

 

Yes by my own admission I went early on Rodgers Out, I must have been one of the founder members, 2 years ago, 18 months ago, but to get to this point without any planning is quite unbelievable.

I mean really a club should always have a shortlist at all times whether you going well or not. But especially when we’ve had such a bad season you’d think you’d have some idea of who you’d want/would be attainable?

[Pliskin]

4 minutes ago, Matt said:

And this is where I’m critical.

 

How did it only just dawn on them?

 

Yes by my own admission I went early on Rodgers Out, I must have been one of the founder members, 2 years ago, 18 months ago, but to get to this point without any planning is quite unbelievable.

People criticise owners for firing managers quickly. But when you’ve got experiences football people in a consortium, they can spot the warning signals early on. 
 

You would have thought the board would have noticed a decline, if not the performances… like you’ve said about two years ago was when the first signs of this decline started and a lot of people could see it. 

[st albans fox]

6 minutes ago, Matt said:

And this is where I’m critical.

 

How did it only just dawn on them?

 

Yes by my own admission I went early on Rodgers Out, I must have been one of the founder members, 2 years ago, 18 months ago, but to get to this point without any planning is quite unbelievable.

You would expect that they would be in continual contact with a target - I mean rodgers could have resigned at any point - unlikely but not impossible.  They should have been aware of what their target wanted and at what point they wouldn’t be interested. 
 

but we don’t know what actually happened on Saturday evening and Sunday.  perhaps we had approached Rafa as our first choice and potter’s sudden availability muddied the waters. hence we decided we’d rather muddle through till the summer and then try to get potter in. 
 

I doubt that would have gone down well with Rafa if he’d been hanging on for our gig.