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Sol thewall Bamba

Rudkin

By Sol thewall Bamba, in Leicester City Forum

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Unabomber

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1 minute ago, CosbehFox said:

The latest Telegraph article gives no doubt that Rudkin is in control of all things football. Some of us were telling people on here for weeks on end 

@Wymseyimplied he was getting sacked. 

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Babylon

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49 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

The latest Telegraph article gives no doubt that Rudkin is in control of all things football. Some of us were telling people on here for weeks on end 

He’s director of football, who else would you think is in charge of the football side. But there is still plenty he’s not involved in that directly impacts the footballing side. 

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5waller5

5waller5

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1 minute ago, Babylon said:

He’s director of football, who else would you think is in charge of the football side. But there is still plenty he’s not involved in that directly impacts the footballing side. 


I feel like I’ve just entered the Twighlight Zone

Babylon

Babylon

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20 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:


I feel like I’ve just entered the Twighlight Zone

Nah, it’s just you being you and either misremembering, misquoting or misattributing what’s been said. 
 

We’ve been here before: 

 

5waller5

5waller5

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25 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Nah, it’s just you being you and either misremembering, misquoting or misattributing what’s been said. 
 

We’ve been here before: 

 


Yes that’s it. 

You definitely didn’t spend months defending Rudkin with the line, “we don’t know that he’s responsible for [insert blatantly obvious things a DOF has responsibility for]

 

So much so you became caricatured as either Jon or his Mrs / mate.

 

It’s definitely me misremembering 😂

 

Let’s not revisit that debate again now (have you been deleting your best bits yet?)

 

It’s just great news that you’ve come round to thinking that the Director Of Football, at a football club, would be responsible for, well, footballing stuff. Ruud has already made improvements!!

 

 

 

justfoxes

justfoxes

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3 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

We do need a proper person in with contacts and status in the game, but Top wants 'yes' mates around him.

Southgate wants a DOF Position go to be better than Rudkin and he dues have quite a few contacts in football😉

justfoxes

justfoxes

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2 hours ago, shasse said:

For those who missed the original link https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/11/29/ruud-van-nistelrooy-walking-old-fashioned-club-leicester/

Very interesting read about how Rudkin is so close to Top, how can 1 man really run a football club successfully when he has other pies with his fingers in such as the horse racing and Leuven surely Top must realise you need 100% in one business not 33.333% split between 3 KP businesses ?

Madelin21

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Rudkin Is part of the problem, however the players hold too much power and as much as I wanted Cooper gone, it's an absolute disgrace how the players stopped playing for him. The Copenhagen scandal just proves there's no fuchs given. Take control Top or leave. I'm sick of players thinking they're bigger than the manager!

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Lambert09

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3 hours ago, justfoxes said:

Southgate wants a DOF Position go to be better than Rudkin and he dues have quite a few contacts in football😉

that would be wonderful.  Southgate definitely is someone you’d want at a club but just not in the dug out 

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Babylon

Babylon

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6 hours ago, 5waller5 said:


Yes that’s it. 

You definitely didn’t spend months defending Rudkin with the line, “we don’t know that he’s responsible for [insert blatantly obvious things a DOF has responsibility for]

 

So much so you became caricatured as either Jon or his Mrs / mate.

 

It’s definitely me misremembering 😂

 

Let’s not revisit that debate again now (have you been deleting your best bits yet?)

 

It’s just great news that you’ve come round to thinking that the Director Of Football, at a football club, would be responsible for, well, footballing stuff. Ruud has already made improvements!!

 

 

 

Find me those posts, because every time this gets said I challenge people to find the posts and they can’t. You can’t just edit or delete old posts, so it’s all still there. 
 

What you are doing is parroting a couple of people who kept saying I said x, y and z when i categorically did not. Or what was said, was in an entirely different context to the one you’d like to present.


And you just prove my point, because I’ve said over and over again that of course he’s responsible for a percentage of what’s happened, the point being we don’t know what percentage as so many things and people do influence his role.  

 

We’ve touched on this times but you just ignore it and just want to trot out the usual “durrrr you love Rudkin” nonsense.

 

 

 

A couple of things on how others impact the football side:

 

1) He’s not in charge of finances, and yet he got  blamed almost entirely at times for our financial situation. The people above him have signed off a massive overspend, he’s not on the board, he doesn’t pick the budget. Those above him contributed to the massive mess we were in on that side of it, which then has a widespread impact on how he and we as a club can operate with signings and managers etc. 
 

Then people will say ah well he signed the players and paid them x y and z. And my point has always been that the players are put forward by the recruitment team and they will provide a ball park figure of what they think their value is. (This comes from all

the old scouting articles and interviews with Walsh and McKenzie).
 

My point has always been blame him for the installation of poor heads of recruitment.

 

You either believe in collective blame and attributing blame to the individuals involved for each poor decision. Or you believe in the man at the top takes the blame ultimately, which is top and not Rudkin. 

 

2) We are told it’s been Top deciding on wanting to play a progressive passing style, so that instantly influences things.

 

3) We are told players have gone directly to the owners at times to express displeasure at managers. That influences things.

 

4) He doesn’t decide to expand the KP or the build Seagrave, the financial drain on the club that imposes impacts the football side of things.

 

There are 100’s and 1000’s of ways his job is and can influenced by other people at the club and those above him. And that is why I’ve said over and over and over again that it’s collective responsibility as far as I’m concerned as well never know all the finer details. 
 

 

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Claudio Fannieri

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9 hours ago, shasse said:

For those who missed the original link https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/11/29/ruud-van-nistelrooy-walking-old-fashioned-club-leicester/

The way I read it, it sounds like the basis of the article has come from someone within the club, the way it reads it sounds like someone a little disgruntled at Rudkin

and Tops relationship and how that projects across the club. 
 

it doesn’t mean that Top hasn’t stepped in over the last 7 days and gone above Rudkin to sack Cooper and also hire RVN, it also doesn’t necessarily mean that the relationship hasn’t become fractured as a result of the hiring and firing of Cooper where their was clearly differing opinions. 
 

Whilst the underlying sentiment of the article is correct, the dynamcis may well be very different as a result of the last week or so, Top has clearly stepped in and taken control which clearly demonstrates that they are not aligned on some pretty major decisions. 

justfoxes

justfoxes

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4 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

that would be wonderful.  Southgate definitely is someone you’d want at a club but just not in the dug out 

Top move Rudkin just for your horses and Get Southgate in as DOF !

YOU KNOW IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TOP !

CosbehFox

CosbehFox

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40 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

The way I read it, it sounds like the basis of the article has come from someone within the club, the way it reads it sounds like someone a little disgruntled at Rudkin

and Tops relationship and how that projects across the club. 
 

it doesn’t mean that Top hasn’t stepped in over the last 7 days and gone above Rudkin to sack Cooper and also hire RVN, it also doesn’t necessarily mean that the relationship hasn’t become fractured as a result of the hiring and firing of Cooper where their was clearly differing opinions. 
 

Whilst the underlying sentiment of the article is correct, the dynamcis may well be very different as a result of the last week or so, Top has clearly stepped in and taken control which clearly demonstrates that they are not aligned on some pretty major decisions. 

They’ve had that sort of article lined up for a long time I believe. 

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