James Justin

[FoxOnWheels]

4 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Genuinely can't believe people are trying to blame anyone other than JJ for that second goal.

 

You get taught as a child to put the ball out of play if in danger. The same way you get taught not to pass across your goal line etc etc.

 

It's football basics that you will Genuinely see children abide by on a Sunday morning. It's absolutely criminal that a professional football, in the Premier League, can be making these mistakes.

 

Can't blame Ayew for JJ's absolute suicide football.

 

I'd say it's beyond belief, but nothings beyond JJ's level of incompetence & stupidity. 

I agree that’s what I think the best thing in that situation to do is but I doubt the highest level of professional footballers are getting told that they will be told to play their way out of if it keep the ball and try get into the oppositions half, you see loads now days play it across their own goal

[Richmondfox]

9 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Genuinely can't believe people are trying to blame anyone other than JJ for that second goal.

 

You get taught as a child to put the ball out of play if in danger. The same way you get taught not to pass across your goal line etc etc.

 

It's football basics that you will Genuinely see children abide by on a Sunday morning. It's absolutely criminal that a professional football, in the Premier League, can be making these mistakes.

 

Can't blame Ayew for JJ's absolute suicide football.

 

I'd say it's beyond belief, but nothings beyond JJ's level of incompetence & stupidity. 

I’ve just watched the goal again several times on the YouTube highlights.  It’s incredible how many options he had.  His first touch he could’ve passed to Winks to make the quick pass to Ayew, Bilal and Soumare were also open.  He stutters and turns back twisting where he had two chances to lump it, Coady calls for it and the Keeper is open for the pass as well.  
 

After the short pass to Ayew, the attempted challenge is just as absurd, he could’ve fouled the player or tried to block rather than some weird jump around the back as he’s passing by. 

[Tommy Fresh]

17 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Genuinely can't believe people are trying to blame anyone other than JJ for that second goal.

 

You get taught as a child to put the ball out of play if in danger. The same way you get taught not to pass across your goal line etc etc.

 

It's football basics that you will Genuinely see children abide by on a Sunday morning. It's absolutely criminal that a professional football, in the Premier League, can be making these mistakes.

 

Can't blame Ayew for JJ's absolute suicide football.

 

I'd say it's beyond belief, but nothings beyond JJ's level of incompetence & stupidity. 

It's really poor by him, but comparing professional football to kids football (from however long ago doesn't really work). He's obviously been told to play out and isn't really up to the level required to play that way, not like we usually go long and he's strayed from the plan. Ideally he'd smash it out, but unlikely it's encouraged at this level. 

[Tommy Fresh]

Just now, Richmondfox said:

I’ve just watched the goal again several times on the YouTube highlights.  It’s incredible how many options he had.  His first touch he could’ve passed to Winks to make the quick pass to Ayew, Bilal and Soumare were also open.  He stutters and turns back twisting where he had two chances to lump it, Coady calls for it and the Keeper is open for the pass as well.  
 

After the short pass to Ayew, the attempted challenge is just as absurd, he could’ve fouled the player or tried to block rather than some weird jump around the back as he’s passing by. 

The attempted challenge is probably worse

[Phenom]

He is the Danny Ward of RBs

[Finnegan]

At the risk of sounding overly sensitive, I'm starting to get really uncomfortable with the way some posters are talking about JJ. 

 

He's always come across as a really hardworking, honest pro and a pretty likeable guy. 

 

He absolutely always gives his best in every game, never stops trying, and historically he's put in good performances for us and done pretty well. 

 

He's in some absolutely hideous form at the moment and there's no hiding from that, in an ideal world he'd be well out of the starting lineup and out of the spotlight so he can hit the reset switch and hopefully get back to his best. 

 

But we can't give him that because we've hilariously few options. Let's not all kid ourselves that Hamza is the answer, by the way. Ruud has very little choice but to keep playing Justin and it's going to keep happening. 

 

He desperately needs a break from the side and he just isn't going to get it but none of this is his fault. 

 

I know there's a perception sometimes that foxestalk is a bubble and nothing you say here matters but I dunno. I reckon if I was a professional suffering a crisis of confidence I'd be tempted to fall in to the trap and doom scrolling and reading what people were saying about me.

 

We've seen before players falling in to absolute spirals of low confidence that have murdered their form and our fanbase are absolutely relentless sometimes for piling on the criticism instead of trying to lift these guys up. We've seen Maddison, Iheanacho, Daka, Vestergaard, even Vardy go through this at times at the hands of our fans. 

 

I'm not saying you can't criticise a bad performance or you have to pretend everything is OK but definitely some of the posts in here are getting closer and closer to abuse and I think people need to just check themselves and find a different outlet for their frustrations. 

 

[Wymsey]

Reckon Choudhury at right-back is too risky, given that he can be quite rash in the tackle.

[Philkeavo]

We have no alternatives at right back. That’s how bad we are.

[Paninistickers]

15 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

At the risk of sounding overly sensitive, I'm starting to get really uncomfortable with the way some posters are talking about JJ. 

 

He's always come across as a really hardworking, honest pro and a pretty likeable guy. 

 

He absolutely always gives his best in every game, never stops trying, and historically he's put in good performances for us and done pretty well. 

 

He's in some absolutely hideous form at the moment and there's no hiding from that, in an ideal world he'd be well out of the starting lineup and out of the spotlight so he can hit the reset switch and hopefully get back to his best. 

 

But we can't give him that because we've hilariously few options. Let's not all kid ourselves that Hamza is the answer, by the way. Ruud has very little choice but to keep playing Justin and it's going to keep happening. 

 

He desperately needs a break from the side and he just isn't going to get it but none of this is his fault. 

 

I know there's a perception sometimes that foxestalk is a bubble and nothing you say here matters but I dunno. I reckon if I was a professional suffering a crisis of confidence I'd be tempted to fall in to the trap and doom scrolling and reading what people were saying about me.

 

We've seen before players falling in to absolute spirals of low confidence that have murdered their form and our fanbase are absolutely relentless sometimes for piling on the criticism instead of trying to lift these guys up. We've seen Maddison, Iheanacho, Daka, Vestergaard, even Vardy go through this at times at the hands of our fans. 

 

I'm not saying you can't criticise a bad performance or you have to pretend everything is OK but definitely some of the posts in here are getting closer and closer to abuse and I think people need to just check themselves and find a different outlet for their frustrations. 

 

Great post. 

 

 

[adam]

Bloody hell. First time I've seen that Justin defending for their 2nd. On MOTD. Could of cleared it about 15 times before he shanked it to their winger.

[Claridge]

23 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Reckon Choudhury at right-back is too risky, given that he can be quite rash in the tackle.

at least he would try and tackle, justin is awful at the moment and it is ridiculous that he is playing

Edited 4 January by Claridge

[VLC86]

Micah Richard’s 😂

[adam]

1 minute ago, VLC86 said:

Micah Richard’s 😂

Been playing OK apparently.

[Lesta Legend]

16 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

At the risk of sounding overly sensitive, I'm starting to get really uncomfortable with the way some posters are talking about JJ. 

 

He's always come across as a really hardworking, honest pro and a pretty likeable guy. 

 

He absolutely always gives his best in every game, never stops trying, and historically he's put in good performances for us and done pretty well. 

 

He's in some absolutely hideous form at the moment and there's no hiding from that, in an ideal world he'd be well out of the starting lineup and out of the spotlight so he can hit the reset switch and hopefully get back to his best. 

 

But we can't give him that because we've hilariously few options. Let's not all kid ourselves that Hamza is the answer, by the way. Ruud has very little choice but to keep playing Justin and it's going to keep happening. 

 

He desperately needs a break from the side and he just isn't going to get it but none of this is his fault. 

 

I know there's a perception sometimes that foxestalk is a bubble and nothing you say here matters but I dunno. I reckon if I was a professional suffering a crisis of confidence I'd be tempted to fall in to the trap and doom scrolling and reading what people were saying about me.

 

We've seen before players falling in to absolute spirals of low confidence that have murdered their form and our fanbase are absolutely relentless sometimes for piling on the criticism instead of trying to lift these guys up. We've seen Maddison, Iheanacho, Daka, Vestergaard, even Vardy go through this at times at the hands of our fans. 

 

I'm not saying you can't criticise a bad performance or you have to pretend everything is OK but definitely some of the posts in here are getting closer and closer to abuse and I think people need to just check themselves and find a different outlet for their frustrations. 

 

Think you’re right, there are too many on here that have a complete melt down when anything remotely negative happens. 

 

You’re also right regards to JJ. 
 

One everyone will agree with is the fact at present JJ shouldn’t be anywhere near the 1st team. For both the team’s survival and probably his long term mental health.  

[Aus Fox]

6 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

Think you’re right, there are too many on here that have a complete melt down when anything remotely negative happens. 

 

You’re also right regards to JJ. 
 

One everyone will agree with is the fact at present JJ shouldn’t be anywhere near the 1st team. For both the team’s survival and probably his long term mental health.  

As said by a few previously, he’s a decent player who is bang out of form, the major problem is there is absolutely no other option. Which is a massive failure on the clubs part. 

[KFS]

42 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

At the risk of sounding overly sensitive, I'm starting to get really uncomfortable with the way some posters are talking about JJ. 

 

He's always come across as a really hardworking, honest pro and a pretty likeable guy. 

 

He absolutely always gives his best in every game, never stops trying, and historically he's put in good performances for us and done pretty well. 

 

He's in some absolutely hideous form at the moment and there's no hiding from that, in an ideal world he'd be well out of the starting lineup and out of the spotlight so he can hit the reset switch and hopefully get back to his best. 

 

But we can't give him that because we've hilariously few options. Let's not all kid ourselves that Hamza is the answer, by the way. Ruud has very little choice but to keep playing Justin and it's going to keep happening. 

 

He desperately needs a break from the side and he just isn't going to get it but none of this is his fault. 

 

I know there's a perception sometimes that foxestalk is a bubble and nothing you say here matters but I dunno. I reckon if I was a professional suffering a crisis of confidence I'd be tempted to fall in to the trap and doom scrolling and reading what people were saying about me.

 

We've seen before players falling in to absolute spirals of low confidence that have murdered their form and our fanbase are absolutely relentless sometimes for piling on the criticism instead of trying to lift these guys up. We've seen Maddison, Iheanacho, Daka, Vestergaard, even Vardy go through this at times at the hands of our fans. 

 

I'm not saying you can't criticise a bad performance or you have to pretend everything is OK but definitely some of the posts in here are getting closer and closer to abuse and I think people need to just check themselves and find a different outlet for their frustrations. 

 

In the nicest possible way Finnegan, most of what you posted and the sentimentality got us relegated the last time. 
 

Whether it’s him or others in the team making these mistakes and being poor, they’re wearing our badge and not performing. God knows what the EFL have cooked up for us next year.

 

Simply needs better from literally everyone involved 

[funkyrobot]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

At the risk of sounding overly sensitive, I'm starting to get really uncomfortable with the way some posters are talking about JJ. 

 

He's always come across as a really hardworking, honest pro and a pretty likeable guy. 

 

He absolutely always gives his best in every game, never stops trying, and historically he's put in good performances for us and done pretty well. 

 

He's in some absolutely hideous form at the moment and there's no hiding from that, in an ideal world he'd be well out of the starting lineup and out of the spotlight so he can hit the reset switch and hopefully get back to his best. 

 

But we can't give him that because we've hilariously few options. Let's not all kid ourselves that Hamza is the answer, by the way. Ruud has very little choice but to keep playing Justin and it's going to keep happening. 

 

He desperately needs a break from the side and he just isn't going to get it but none of this is his fault. 

 

I know there's a perception sometimes that foxestalk is a bubble and nothing you say here matters but I dunno. I reckon if I was a professional suffering a crisis of confidence I'd be tempted to fall in to the trap and doom scrolling and reading what people were saying about me.

 

We've seen before players falling in to absolute spirals of low confidence that have murdered their form and our fanbase are absolutely relentless sometimes for piling on the criticism instead of trying to lift these guys up. We've seen Maddison, Iheanacho, Daka, Vestergaard, even Vardy go through this at times at the hands of our fans. 

 

I'm not saying you can't criticise a bad performance or you have to pretend everything is OK but definitely some of the posts in here are getting closer and closer to abuse and I think people need to just check themselves and find a different outlet for their frustrations. 

 

Tbf you’ve just described his form as hideous so if he reads that it’s not going to help his state of mind! 
 

The fact is he needs a rest from the 1st team. His mistakes have been critical and have undoubtedly cost us points. Hamza playing out of position is not going to be any worse than Justin playing in his natural position whilst he is in this ‘hideous’ form.
 

Keeping him in the first team when he’s in this cycle of form is not helping him. RVN giving him a rest (and he CAN swap with Hamza) will help him far more than people not posting criticism on this or any other forum for fear of JJ doom scrolling through here.

 

It’s up to RVN and his coaching staff to do the right thing - they’ve done it with Ward, they HAVE to do it with JJ if we are to have any chance of survival. It’s as critical as that. 
 

 

 

 

[Chrysalis]

I assume this is for the second goal, not sure what was expected of JJ there, I suppose we were expecting him to foul the player?

 

There was no one covering him "as usual".

 

Also I only watched the highlights which as I always say, it doesnt reveal the full picture, how did Villa get into that position in the first place?  Highlights doesnt show that, its a team game.

Edited 5 January by Chrysalis

[adam]

10 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

I assume this is for the second goal, not sure what was expected of JJ there, I suppose we were expecting him to foul the player?

 

There was no one covering him "as usual".

 

Also I only watched the highlights which as I always say, it doesnt reveal the full picture, how did Villa get into that position in the first place?  Highlights doesnt show that, its a team game.

Clear the ball?

[Chrysalis]

Just now, adam said:

Clear the ball?

How? he is human not a wizard so you need to elaborate sorry.  I have always maintained defensive performance is more about coaching and organisation than individual skill.

 

VVD e.g. will look like a clown every game if you analyse him the way you analyse JJ.  But VVD's mistakes dont get punished due to the better organisation of that team and the fact Liverpool are not typically penned back.

[StanSP]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

How? 

For real? 

 

Literally just kick it out. Even when under pressure, kick the ball out. 

 

Pass to Stolarczyk, Coady, Winks. Not get backed into a corner and play to Ayew who's being chased down by the press. 

 

He had countless opportunities, as a human footballer, to do anything but do what he ended up doing. 

[adam]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

How? he is human not a wizard so you need to elaborate sorry.  I have always maintained defensive performance is more about coaching and organisation than individual skill.

 

VVD e.g. will look like a clown every game if you analyse him the way you analyse JJ.  But VVD's mistakes dont get punished due to the better organisation of that team and the fact Liverpool are not typically penned back.

There is no way you can watch that second goal and defend Justin. He had so many options and he ended up ****ing about with it. MOTD explained it clearly.

[dillonpanthers87]

1 hour ago, Lesta Legend said:

Think you’re right, there are too many on here that have a complete melt down when anything remotely negative happens. 

 

You’re also right regards to JJ. 
 

One everyone will agree with is the fact at present JJ shouldn’t be anywhere near the 1st team. For both the team’s survival and probably his long term mental health.  

100%. Also, Hamza, while not a rb, has been up for it. If not, try Skipp there - try something

[Chrysalis]

2 minutes ago, adam said:

There is no way you can watch that second goal and defend Justin. He had so many options and he ended up ****ing about with it. MOTD explained it clearly.

You havent said what those options are, I am still waiting.  Thank you for confirming you relying on MOTD highlights.  In my opinion you cant judge these things without full coverage, as there is a bigger picture.

 

How did the ball even get to Justin's area in the first place?

Edited 5 January by Chrysalis

[adam]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

You havent said what those options are, I am still waiting.

Seriously. Boot it in the stand, pass it to coady or the keeper. No way can you watch that goal and defend him. No chance.