Time to let Nigel go?

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, An Away Move said:

And give up our Premier League win? No way! Claudio was a different level of tactical nous. 
Also Pearson made a bad decision in backing his son against the club. Once he did that he was rightfully doomed. 

That just shows he valued family and being primarily a dad, over his work though?

[fuchsntf]

28 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

My first game was the 3-3 draw with Arsenal (Bergkamp hattrick) so don't know much about Bloomfield or Gillies. 

So your dad & uncles kept quiet over our little gems of history…

[LCFCJohn]

49 minutes ago, foxes1988 said:

We shouldn't forget about his achievements here although a small minority do need to move on from him. Rather then recommending that we go back to him every time we sack a manager just like we use to O'Neil in the mid and late 2000s.

 

For me he's the 4th best/most successful/most legendary (however you want to put it) manager in my lifetime.  Behind the cup and title winners.

 

Think he deserves a polite applause before or after the game Today and that will suffice.  Anymore sentiments then that I think would be a little overblown.  Being overly sentimental is one of our clubs biggest mistakes of the last 5 years so think we should move on a little from him.

 

 

My first manager once I was old enough to appreciate football was Micky Adam’s (promotion season behind Portsmouth). But I’ll count O’Neil as in my lifetime.

 

O’Neil has to be top in that he won cups but also built something sustainable. 
 

Tough between Pearson and Ranieri as Ranieri managed us to the ultimate prize but I personally value an all round contribution so hold Pearson in high esteem for his overall work in building the club.

 

Rodgers not up there with those 3 despite the cup win for me. He benefitted from a squad ready for success then destroyed it all. Doesn’t deserve mentioning alongside the other 3. Look at how he’s going off at Celtic already and how Maresca is already showing him up for what he was.

[fuchsntf]

26 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Pearson, together with King and James deservedly should get a round of applause. Pearson was vital in our development and future success. Whether he was solely responsible for our great escape or would have had the nous to win the Premiership is highly questionable but nevertheless he was vital to us and I'm certainly grateful. I'd also like to see Andy King come back in some roll eventually too.

 

However. Enzo is now in charge of our next chapter and from what I've seen and heard thus far, thoroughly deserves our support verbally. A song might be good too.

 

Rodgers never had one, was hard to like at the best of times as he always had the appeal of a slimy little toad and to date, would really be the only past manager I wouldn't welcome back.

Ahhh come..Rodgers was a cute little  tadpole full of willing,but turned into a frog you just wouldn’t want to kiss..

[shailen]

We wouldn't have won the league without the foundations put in place by Pearson but I don't think we would have won the league with him in charge that season. He was a pragmatic manager but Claudio gave Mahrez free license and put Vardy up top and was excellent at keeping the momentum going all season. 

[Hamilton Fox]

17 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

 

This.

 

18 hours ago, hackneyfox said:

Two trophies?

We hadn't won the FA Cup before but we had won the Charity Shield which was renamed the Community Shield.

Just the one as far as I'm concerned.

Good point! Had forgotten about the previous charity shield win.. 

 

 

[jayfox26]

2 hours ago, An Away Move said:

Quite a first game to attend!

Yes and my dad made me leave when bergkamp made it 3-2 so I missed Walsh's header. Still not forgiven him 

[jayfox26]

1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

So your dad & uncles kept quiet over our little gems of history…

My Dad never really told me too much about our history although he did buy me the ice Kings book for my birthday last week. 

[whoareyaaa]

1 hour ago, shailen said:

We wouldn't have won the league without the foundations put in place by Pearson but I don't think we would have won the league with him in charge that season. He was a pragmatic manager but Claudio gave Mahrez free license and put Vardy up top and was excellent at keeping the momentum going all season. 

agree

[Tom12345]

On 22/09/2023 at 15:08, Sly said:

To add some balance, peoplw do also seem to forget the long spells of awful football, where let’s be honest, if he’d have been sacked, most wouldn’t have questioned the decision.

 

We should never have been near the bottom of the league in 14/15 for so long really, or that collapse which led to Deeney day. 

 

Great achievements overall and like O said earlier. I’m thankful for the foundations he built. My favourite season under Pearson was actually League 1. 

But 14/15, we finished 14th in our first season back in the Premier League on a shoestring budget? That form during the Great Escape was actually league winning form, which we took further into in 15/16?

 

Deeney day was just freakish - a manager can’t be held responsible for us missing a penalty and then losing in a split second afterwards? Plus, we did end up getting promoted as Champions on record points?

[Tom12345]

On 22/09/2023 at 15:21, Finnegan said:

If you ever wanted confirmation that the problem was Brendan not Rennie, the fact that Pearson has him back at Bristol is probably all the endorsement you ever need. 

 

Whatever Rodgers and Pearson's respective strengths and weaknesses there's absolutely no question that Nige is an infinitely better judge of talent and character in both players and staff. 

 

Brendan was really a fraud.

 

How many injuries did we suffer, year after year while he was in charge? At first it appeared to be bad luck but in hindsight the trend is also proof of Brendan’s negligence.

 

Judgement of talent: you are spot on. Who has Brendan recruited that became a success here? All the players that he relied on so much were not recruited by him - Maddison, Ndidi, Barnes, Vardy, etc.  On the other hand, he wasted so much money on players he never fancied (so weird) - Perez, Vesty, Daka, Soumare, etc.
 

We were on the verge of getting into the elite “top eight” on the back of our Premier League win and our training ground investment etc. But Brendan was here at the wrong time. The damage he has done cannot be understated. That said, the Board must take some responsibility for not sacking him much much earlier.

Edited 23 September 2023 by Tom12345

[iancognito]

Big Nige reading the love for him here

[Wolfox]

14 hours ago, Mark_w said:

Oh I see, fair enough, I didn't realise we were randomly listing facts for no reason.

Thomas Aikenhead was the last person in the UK to be put to death for blasphemy in 1697. Some Foxes Talkers are lucky they don't live in such cruel times

I had to fact check that as I thought you’d got it wrong 
 

I’m a direct descendant of the the last person  to burned at the stake for heresy -  Edward Wightman

 

blasphemy was your fella

 

Apparently it got a little hot…. He  recanted…. Was pulled off the pyre and then said he didn’t really recant and got put back on to finish the job!

 

Another unrelated fact for everyone to suck up!!

[An Away Move]

43 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Yes and my dad made me leave when bergkamp made it 3-2 so I missed Walsh's header. Still not forgiven him 

Quite rightly!

[An Away Move]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

That just shows he valued family and being primarily a dad, over his work though?

Agree, but his son was in the wrong. His pride gave the club no other option but to sack him. We should be thankful to both Pearson’s as on this event our world turned and we won the league. Wouldn’t have happened but for the son’s actions. Crazy isn’t it?!

[Number 6]

If he ever finds himself unattached to a club (maybe next summer?) and wants a slightly slower paced role, we'd be mad to not try and bring him in as a DoF. It seems like the perfect role for his skillset.

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, Hamilton Fox said:

 

Good point! Had forgotten about the previous charity shield win.. 

 

 

Steve Whitworth, brilliant RB..first & last goal for city…

city had for decades a long history of G.keepers , & Fbs…Whitworth,  Rofe,  Rodriguez…Chalmers , Nish, Norman

[Jimbo]

2 hours ago, shailen said:

We wouldn't have won the league without the foundations put in place by Pearson but I don't think we would have won the league with him in charge that season. He was a pragmatic manager but Claudio gave Mahrez free license and put Vardy up top and was excellent at keeping the momentum going all season. 

That's one thing I've always said, Ranieri wouldn't have won the league without Pearson, but Pearson wouldn't have won it if he'd stayed. The stars aligned for us that year, but although Claudio rightfully will go down in folklore as the man who achieved the miracle, it was both managers that won us the premier league. 

 

This game kinda feels like some proper closure for us and big Nige, and he'll get the warm welcome he deserves. But make no mistake about it, although he does have a lingering love for his time here, as you say he's a very pragmatic guy and he'll not worry about us one little bit, he'll take the applause but right now he's focussed on beating us, he might give a little wave or a thumbs up before the game, I'd be surprised if he does, but after a split second of some sort of gratitude from him, it'll be back to business and he'll be shaking his crutches at his players to their best to leave with a result 

[FoxesWalk]

He made such a huge difference to us off the pitch. I’d have him back now in some board/director capacity, but not as coach. He did a lot of things very well, but imo his style of play is nothing special. 

[OntarioFox]

1 hour ago, Tom12345 said:

But 14/15, we finished 14th in our first season back in the Premier League on a shoestring budget? That form during the Great Escape was actually league winning form, which we took further into in 15/16?

 

Deeney day was just freakish - a manager can’t be held responsible for us missing a penalty and then losing in a split second afterwards? Plus, we did end up getting promoted as Champions on record points?

I love Pearson and am a proud cult member, but even I will admit we made the playoff push far more difficult than we should have that year. Knockeart at Forest was box office, but we'd been on a torrid run before that which had sunk us out of the top six.

 

The thing is, we never played with our heads down during those runs and there was always a corner to be turned. We went into that Forest game with belief, same as all those games in the Great Escape. Though i will admit I thought Nige was gone after that torrid 2-0 loss at Barnsley (the one where Ben Marshall sabotaged his career with us).

[Trumpet]

On 22/09/2023 at 11:16, Ginger_Filbert said:

The best years of my life following this club was down to that man and what he built. 
 

Cannot put into words how much I love and admire him for what he gave us. 
 

Gonna be great to have him back with Kingy and James, two other huge figures in our recent history. 
 

Legend is thrown around to easy but NP and AK 100% come into that category. 
 

Id personally say NP is the best manager we’ve ever had. 

Was the first time in a very long time where we’d go a goal down and I wouldn’t really care, because we had the right character to get back in it and often did.

[Mark_w]

He says what he wants, he says what he likes, you’re an ostrich so foad  

[Daggers]

I still say there should be a giant statue of him throttling a wolf in one hand and an ostrich in the other, striding over the entire stadium. Something that would be large enough to be seen from space - maybe large enough to partially be in space. 

[Skid_1884]

3 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

Pearson, together with King and James deservedly should get a round of applause. Pearson was vital in our development and future success. Whether he was solely responsible for our great escape or would have had the nous to win the Premiership is highly questionable but nevertheless he was vital to us and I'm certainly grateful. I'd also like to see Andy King come back in some roll eventually too.

 

However. Enzo is now in charge of our next chapter and from what I've seen and heard thus far, thoroughly deserves our support verbally. A song might be good too.

 

Rodgers never had one, was hard to like at the best of times as he always had the appeal of a slimy little toad and to date, would really be the only past manager I wouldn't welcome back.

What did James actually do here apart from sit on the treatment table?

 

As much as he could expect would be a polite applause, is no more of a hero here than Dean Hammond or Matt Oakley for example.

[ARTY_FOX]

Is it people trolling that don't like Pearson or do people genuinely dislike him? The guy took us from our worst ever position and built the team and tactics that put us in our best. Only to be ruined almost a decade later by a goblin.