Hamza Choudhury

[CosbehFox]

3 hours ago, LFox99 said:

Do we? Cause as far as I can tell to qualify as a squad player you need to possess at least some form of quality. 

He doesn't have any whatsoever. Saying he's a squad player would imply he's capable of delivering 6/10 performances when called upon. He can't even do that, so stop your sanctimonious spiel about how we need more players like him.

He's the very epitome of what's wrong with this squad and, in a bigger sense, this club. 

 

Well said. Club should have looked for the exit door after his third off the field incident. Some of the errors last season should have been the indicator that it was time to scrap him 

[baldeagle]

Today was his 89th appearance for us and he had 36 for Watford, who didn’t want to sign him .I can seriously only remember in all them games only a handful at best where he’s had a decent game . And they were in the Championship 

Edited 15 December 2024 by baldeagle

[foxfanazer]

It's almost 2025 and we're playing Hamza Choudhury in the premier league 

 

 

[SilvaFox]

Perfect demonstration of how fickle supporters are. Just need to scroll back a few pages and there we all were saying how he is exactly what the squad needed during a period where things weren't going well. He's put in countless performances for us where he has either got us out of trouble (we may still be in the champ had it not been for his goal line clearances) or simply put on a good showing. Not sure how anyone can expect a player to come in from the cold away at the Toon and seamlessly slot in to a team who are already in a relegation fight. 

Edited 15 December 2024 by SilvaFox

[Dan]

Time to go. Another who a serious club would've gotten rid of years ago.

[Dr Marco]

Let's Faes it: he's shite!

[Sly]

You know what, when he first broke through, similar to Thomas, he had some really good games for us. He has ability but I question the mentality. 
 

He’s had some stand out moments but hasn’t ever really nailed down a place in the team. That’s because he isn’t consistent. Yesterday he was honking in a team that was particularly bad. 
 

It’s the mentality side …..

 

Now some of the Twitter stuff, you could argue that’s on the club and maybe they should have monitored and cleaned up the socials when he broke through into the public eye. When people are younger, they do stupid stuff. 
 

Some of his tweets though needed taking down. This really goes for all professional footballers that need social media teams. 

 

”Why are Black people to fast. The Slow ones are in prison ”.

 

“That has to be the worst advert, sums up women’s football really” .

 

“Sorry but I don’t feel for people that self harm or commit suicide”.

 

”From the River to the Sea”. 

However, it’s the off the field alcohol and partying related incidents that should have made us consider moving him on. It’s harder though if he can’t drive! 

 

Drink Driving and being twice over the limit isn’t great. Error of judgement maybe in the split of the moment? 
 

However the alleged Covid house party with Perez, Morgan, Barnes and Maddison was just massively unprofessional and maybe plays a part of what is wrong with todays squad.
 

To have eighteen people around during that time, then turn off the lights when police arrive to try and hide. Not very clever when you are all high profile. The club were pushing for Champions League football and we’d already lost Soyuncu to covid. So if you’re asked to isolate and don’t do anything daft to jeopardise that, then you do everything you can.

 

It’s also massively disrespectful to the rest of the squad that worked hard to get us into that position. Stuff like that causes divides in any working group. It shouldn’t have happened. 
 

Elite players are different and that’s what gives them that extra 1%. Look at how Vardy treats himself off the field. 
 

Ability wise, I don’t think we are any different to most clubs in this league. It’s mentality and commitment to the cause. Rodgers got it for two years then it fell apart. Maybe he needed to remove the bad apples and couldn’t? Maybe this is why Perez and Choudhury were loaned out in the relegation season. Who knows! 

I get that not everyone will have that drive. If you’re being paid £60k per week though ….. maybe that’s an error of judgement by the club. 

[Dan]

Remember on here when he got that contract extension how it was apparently 4D chess to get more money out of Watford. Turns out we've just spunked a load more money on an inadequate player for a load more years. Again.

 

Life under Top & Rudkin.

[Phenom]

He has never been good enough for this club. He should have been let go ages ago.

[Product of 84]

11 hours ago, LFox99 said:

Do we? Cause as far as I can tell to qualify as a squad player you need to possess at least some form of quality. 

He doesn't have any whatsoever. Saying he's a squad player would imply he's capable of delivering 6/10 performances when called upon. He can't even do that, so stop your sanctimonious spiel about how we need more players like him.

He's the very epitome of what's wrong with this squad and, in a bigger sense, this club. 

 

I never said we need more players like Choudhury I just merely pointed out that versatile squad players are a necessity. 

 

I can't see how academy players becoming first team players is a problem. I can only see the benefits not just in terms of money saving/making but in keeping future academy players at the club. If there is a route to having a chance in the first team they will stay. If that route is closed they will move on for next to nothing at 18. 

 

Choudhury has cost the club very little. He is versatile and like it or not he is one of our own.

 

He was pushed out against a strong Newcastle midfield and it didn't work out yesterday. It was always going to be makeshift. However, as I said I'm glad it was him and not a young lad who'd never been in the first team squad before. 

[alanf0x]

Great lad to have around the changing room!!!!

[foxfanazer]

Just now, alanf0x said:

Great lad to have around the changing room!!!!

Why? Does he help to tidy up after the other players?

[Raj]

48 minutes ago, alanf0x said:

Great lad to have around the changing room!!!!

I'd be a better lad to have around and I'll do it for a 10th of what hes rinsing us for.

 

No drink driving or Palestine flag waving from me👍🏾👍🏾

[Joe90lcfc]

8 hours ago, SilvaFox said:

Perfect demonstration of how fickle supporters are. Just need to scroll back a few pages and there we all were saying how he is exactly what the squad needed during a period where things weren't going well. He's put in countless performances for us where he has either got us out of trouble (we may still be in the champ has it not been for his goal line clearances) or simply put on a good showing. Not sure how anyone can expect a player to come in from the cold away at the Toon and seamlessly slot in to a team who are already in a relegation fight. 

Yes probably needed him in the championship, but that was his absolutely max level! If he is so good at that level why didn’t Watford buy him? He  is an average championship player that is it, I think he certainly wasn’t the reason we got promoted and we still would have got promoted without him!! Bloke a bit of a nob head to 

[SpacedX]

1 minute ago, Joe90lcfc said:

I think he certainly wasn’t the reason we got promoted and we still would have got promoted without him!

Of course he wasn't the reason we gained promotion, no one on their right mind would suggest anything of the sort. However he played his part throughout. In particular, you might want to cast your mind back to last April and his second half performance against West Brom at home which basically denied the better team on the day all three points. 

[CosbehFox]

6 minutes ago, SpacedX said:

Of course he wasn't the reason we gained promotion, no one on their right mind would suggest anything of the sort. However he played his part throughout. In particular, you might want to cast your mind back to last April and his second half performance against West Brom at home which basically denied the better team on the day all three points. 

Equally I remember him being utter toilet v Bristol City and Middlesbrough 

[Tielemans63]

9 hours ago, SilvaFox said:

Perfect demonstration of how fickle supporters are. Just need to scroll back a few pages and there we all were saying how he is exactly what the squad needed during a period where things weren't going well. He's put in countless performances for us where he has either got us out of trouble (we may still be in the champ has it not been for his goal line clearances) or simply put on a good showing. Not sure how anyone can expect a player to come in from the cold away at the Toon and seamlessly slot in to a team who are already in a relegation fight. 

I have just done this, and you have to go back 5 pages to get to any positive comments, and that was when we were in the Championship. He wasn't a regular pick at the level below.

 

I do agree that he can't go straight in to an away game at Newcastle and hold his own; but that's the whole point isn't it? He's nowhere near good enough to do a job in the Premier League.

[coolhandfox]

So he's a convicted drink driver, he's had to be warned about being Antisemitism by the club, previously charged by the FA for historical tweets,  and had to be dropped for breach covid 19 rules.

 

But his a great bloke to have a round the dressing room. 

 

Edited 15 December 2024 by coolhandfox

[Wymsey]

52 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

1So he's a convicted drink driver, he's had to be warned about being Antisemitism by the club, previously charged by the FA for historical tweets,  and had to be dropped for breach covid 19 rules.

 

But his a great bloke to have a round the dressing room. 

 

He comes across like he thinks he's the bees knees both at and away from the club. Hardly a leader, unlike Andy King.

 

Perhaps he's only at the club for academy rules purposes on match days.

[alanf0x]

2 hours ago, Raj said:

I'd be a better lad to have around and I'll do it for a 10th of what hes rinsing us for.

 

No drink driving or Palestine flag waving from me👍🏾👍🏾

Just to clarify, the message was tongue in cheek. The guy is woeful and would struggle to hold down a place in a championship team. 
 

Drink driving, covid parties should have been an easy way to get off of the wage bill. Instead rudders offers him contract extensions…shambles 

[Sly]

14 minutes ago, alanf0x said:

Just to clarify, the message was tongue in cheek. The guy is woeful and would struggle to hold down a place in a championship team. 
 

Drink driving, covid parties should have been an easy way to get off of the wage bill. Instead rudders offers him contract extensions…shambles 

I’m assuming the plan was to sell him.

 

Unfortunately without a driving licence, unless he employs a driver, he’s stuck with us for the foreseeable.  

[alanf0x]

2 minutes ago, Sly said:

I’m assuming the plan was to sell him.

 

Unfortunately without a driving licence, unless he employs a driver, he’s stuck with us for the foreseeable.  

Waste of space. Need to drain the swamp! 

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

He's just the equivalent of Conrad Logan. But outfield. Just sat comfortably doing feck all and being paid handsomely for it. Good gig if you can get it!!

 

He's never been any more than a lower - mid table Champ player. It's shocking he's still around and on silly Dosh.

[RoboFox]

“He’s one of our own” is not an acceptable reason to keep sub-standard footballers around if we want to progress as a football club.

 

Let’s face it, anything half-decent our academy has produced have been snapped up by bigger clubs and here we are approaching 2025, still relying on the likes of Hamza, Thomas et al, who any aspirational club would’ve moved on seasons ago.

 

 

Edited 15 December 2024 by RoboFox

[Wymsey]

1 hour ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said:

He's just the equivalent of Conrad Logan. But outfield. Just sat comfortably doing feck all and being paid handsomely for it. Good gig if you can get it!!

 

He's never been any more than a lower - mid table Champ player. It's shocking he's still around and on silly Dosh.

Hope he's not one of the highest-earners.