Sack him

[Dahnsouff]

1 hour ago, FOXSE said:

'Wow, you got promoted! It got tight at the end, but your team pulled together and came though. You must be delighted!'

 

'No, burn it all down!'

 

😄

 

Can we have a poll of how many times foxestalkers have been divorced? It has to be an average of at least 2, right?

 

'I've been married 5 years, and it's been largely great, but she forgot to put the bins out last Tuesday....'

I said if they did not get promoted. 

[Tuna]

Wouldn't' surprise me if he already had his exit strategy in place and as the walls close in on his idea, he is doubling down on it and carrying on with it so at least he sticks to his principles.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if he walked if things go wrong v Norwich and we have a caretaker manager in for Brum.

[Pliskin]

Monday is a big one for me. Lose that, and I just can’t think of any justification for not giving another manager a try. 

[5waller5]

1 hour ago, boots60 said:

A few short months ago, anyone that posted any criticism of Enzo's tactics were met with a barrage of abuse, generally suggesting the critic was a bit 'dense' & didn't understand the modern way of playing football, conveniently forgetting the tactics that enabled us to win the Premier league.

Now, a few short months later & less than 24 hours after a 1-0 away defeat (albeit a very poor performance) we are 21 pages into a 'Sack him' thread.

Who says football fans are fickle?

A few months ago we were on course to win the league with a record points total and were 17points clear of 3rd place.

 

We are now in 3rd place.

 

Thats not fickle.

[Ric Flair]

Nigel Pearson would take this until the end of the season, I'd not usually be an advocate for such things but we are in free fall and need someone with a connection and track record.

[Pliskin]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Nigel Pearson would take this until the end of the season, I'd not usually be an advocate for such things but we are in free fall and need someone with a connection and track record.

My reservations with big Nige are his health, and the fact he doesn’t have Shakey along side him. Otherwise I wouldn’t be against it. 

[filbertway]

He's clearly not going to change, so we've just got to hope that we can Man U our way. Even playing our tepid painfully awful brand of football, chances still fall our way.

 

The fact our games are becoming 50/50 is the awful part. We put absolutely no sustained pressure on opponents unless they decide to sit back, even then we spend half the time passing across the half way line. People going "ohh we created a couple of chances" - well of course we did, we're man for man a much better team and have triple/quadruple the budget of half the teams in this league. That's not Enzo - that's just having better players, despite them being hamstrung and asked to play a negative style of football.

 

Increased tempo and width are 2 things that I'd want someone to introduce - put other teams on the backfoot.

 

 

[Crinklyfox]

We will live or die on the cross of Enzoball.  Which is a real shame as I like Enzo, he's turned the club around at the start of the season, which was no mean task and is easily forgotten now.  He believes in his style of play, and you have to have belief in your abilities as a manager so I don't and won't criticise him for that.

 

I think that he is a much better fit for us than BR, but in my view BR was absolutely correct in his early analysis of our troubled team - you can't just play one way.  If you do it's easy for the opposition to learn your strategy and vulnerabilities and set up accordingly.

 

If we are to recover this season (which I doubt at this stage) then we have to be able to switch the play to a different mode when necessary - and I don't believe that Enzo will do that.

 

I wouldn't sack him, he's been too good for our club and I believe that he can still develop as a manager to our eventual advantage.

[Soar Fox]

13 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Wouldn't' surprise me if he already had his exit strategy in place and as the walls close in on his idea, he is doubling down on it and carrying on with it so at least he sticks to his principles.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if he walked if things go wrong v Norwich and we have a caretaker manager in for Brum.

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

My reservations with big Nige are his health, and the fact he doesn’t have Shakey along side him. Otherwise I wouldn’t be against it. 

Shakespeare isn't currently at a club is he? Battling cancer, it would be quite something if they both overcame their health issues to lead us back up and the sort of ridiculous goings on that we are part of.

[Groby_Blue]

What's more likely is Rudders would go for someone like Rooney or Lampard. 

[Dahnsouff]

31 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Confidence breads confidence, and if the players don’t believe in the system then yes, it can impact their performance. A confident Vardy buries those chances, if you’re playing with a shred of self doubt you miss them. 

Indeed, it’s why I said they may, there is a mentality problem, clearly. Enzo’s job in part if to fix it, but he cannot do it alone, he isn’t Derren Brown, they players have to do their share too.

[westernpark]

11 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Shakespeare isn't currently at a club is he? Battling cancer, it would be quite something if they both overcame their health issues to lead us back up and the sort of ridiculous goings on that we are part of.

Pearson doesn’t like Rudkin. Probably one of the only guys who could manage upwards and help Top see the light on our Director of football.

[bovril]

Interesting people are mentioning Pearson when this season's collapse is quite reminiscent of 2012/13. 

[FOXSE]

54 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I keep reading this, but the evidence in the last 6 weeks or more isn't there. We don't have any interest in continuing to create chances when we go 1 nil up, ever since the Leeds game we've froze in the headlights. 

 

Bristol City looked dangerous all game, all that would have happened is we'd have gone 1 nil up and invited them on even more. We'd have needed to be more fortunate than we already were yesterday to hold on, we saw at Sunderland how much we rode our luck in such circumstances.

 

Our mentality is all over the place. There's not an in game scenario currently where we're strong.

But when we were taking our chances, we were winning games fine. I totally agree on the Sunderland game though, that was very annoying.

 

You simply can't miss the number of chances we miss and expect to get away with it. I would be a lot more worried if we weren't creating chances, bit that just isn't the case.

[Pliskin]

8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Indeed, it’s why I said they may, there is a mentality problem, clearly. Enzo’s job in part if to fix it, but he cannot do it alone, he isn’t Derren Brown, they players have to do their share too.

Still down to Enzo to inspire them. The players can only perform if they believe in the system. Winks is beavering away by himself at the moment, and he’s just getting battered….. he doesn’t need inspiring, but the rest of the lads do. It’s only human nature to lack confidence when you’re not being led properly. The players facilitate the managers philosophy, and if it’s not working, it shows. 

[Paninistickers]

16 minutes ago, Crinklyfox said:

you can't just play one way.  If you do it's easy for the opposition to learn your strategy and vulnerabilities and set up accordingly

The absurdity is, Enzo himself has said on a number of occasions that the opposition 'played how we expected' after a win or 'didnt play as we expected and I had to fix the issues at half time' ....yet we play, as expected, every single game..

 

Had it not occurred to him that other managers react to us too? 

[FOXSE]

34 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

I said if they did not get promoted. 

Absolute apologies! I read it as 'if we do limp to promotion.'

 

Sorry about that!

[Number 6]

2 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Yep, whoever finishes 6th, are most likely to have the momentum going into the playoffs. Imagine us losing in the play offs to Coventry 🤮

Except this doesn't seem to happen at all. There's always this theory that third will be deflated having been so close, and 6th may have a bit of momentum, but across previous seasons 3rd/4th is much more likely to be promoted. 6th hasn't won the playoffs since 2007.

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Still down to Enzo to inspire them. The players can only perform if they believe in the system. Winks is beavering away by himself at the moment, and he’s just getting battered….. he doesn’t need inspiring, but the rest of the lads do. It’s only human nature to lack confidence when you’re not being led properly. The players facilitate the managers philosophy, and if it’s not working, it shows. 

Yes understand, but odd they would have no confidence in the manager after 75% of the season bossing the league and then deserting him after 5-10 bad games

[CrazyKopCorner]

32 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Nigel Pearson would take this until the end of the season, I'd not usually be an advocate for such things but we are in free fall and need someone with a connection and track record.

My gawd don't even mention the possible prospect of Messiah Nigel coming in especially on this most holy of weekends 

 

He'd definitely get a bounce 

[Number 6]

A big challenge for him is the experience of his competition too. Farke knows the Champ like the back of his hand and is very accustomed to winning the league. McKenna and Ipswich were pretty much in the exact same situation 12 months ago.

[Danizen]

13 minutes ago, bovril said:

Interesting people are mentioning Pearson when this season's collapse is quite reminiscent of 2012/13. 

This is worse. We were very patchy the first half of that season and had a few 5 game winning runs.

 

At our highest, we were 2nd, about 10 points off Cardiff. 

 

This season it was all ours and it looked inevitable that we'd smash the points record. At one point, the points record looked like the only thing that would keep this season interesting for Leicester fans.

 

We've totally collapsed. 

Edited 30 March 2024 by Danizen

[bovril]

Just now, Danizen said:

This is worse. We were very patchy the first half of the season and had a few 5 game winning runs.

 

At our highest, we were 2nd, about 10 points off Cardiff. 

 

This season it was all ours and it looked inevitable that we'd smash the points record. At one point, the points record looked like the only thing that would keep this season interesting for Leicester fans.

 

We've totally collapsed. 

We're better this year and there's no excuse. But in terms of the bad run this is looking quite similar to 12/13 which was absolutely awful let's not forget - the defeats at Barnsley and at home to Millwall especially. 

[ramboacdc]

43 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Monday is a big one for me. Lose that, and I just can’t think of any justification for not giving another manager a try. 

Bank balance being the first one I can think of. Gardening leave on full pay until end of contract with us getting a new manager in means paying 2 sets of wages, breaking the contract will be possibily just as expensive.