Lambert09 Posted 12 June 2024 Posted 12 June 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Do they? What's the benefit to another big 6 team in giving Chelsea £40m on their bottom line? partially unimaginative signings isn’t it. They are at another big club so they must be good. Someone will overpay for gallagher if he’s available, which it sounds like he is. They are just able to put unreasonable prices on players and teams will pay it. If we had a striker who we’d loaned to southampton and he’d done well, before spending a season on our bench (while our striker couldn’t hit anything with a banjo), got injured for ages, then sat on fulham bench…. would we dream of demanding 30m? would anyone even be daft enough to think about it? Yet broja may end up at everton for 30m. makes you sick that they will get out of ffp because of clubs allowing them to get away with their valuations like that. Surely brojas real value would be at like 12m. Edited 12 June 2024 by Lambert09 1
deep blue Posted 13 June 2024 Posted 13 June 2024 We need to be aiming for 50 points next season (with all the flak & problems the football authorities are facing I get the feeling that even another PSR breach will only receive a very small points deduction, so 50 points should be enough).. To achieve that we need our players to be absolutely battling for us and fitting well into the team so that we can optimise our resources. So on balance I think we should keep our best and most committed players even if that causes us to break PSR rules again. I.e. hold onto KDH unless we're offered an insane price (which is unlikely). 1
Chrysalis Posted 13 June 2024 Posted 13 June 2024 The subject of if he is worth 8 points, to add to that, it wouldn't even be 8 points, as Everton shown if there is 2 punishments in one season, the second one is reduced. So if the EPL found a way to do a points deduction for a breach in our EFL season it should be less than 8 points. 1
lcfcbluearmy Posted 15 June 2024 Posted 15 June 2024 On 09/06/2024 at 13:18, MPH said: His replacement could be worth even more. IF We sell him, now don’t misunderstand I’d prefer we didn’t but if we get an offer of 40m we should take it. He’s completely replaceable. If there’s one thing there are plenty of in the footballing world, it’s CMs. selling him, avoiding a bigger points deduction and buying a replacement would be a much better option than starting the season on -8 or more points. This mythical replacement that we are going to get with the next to no money we will have to spend that may or may not work out, or keep someone who we know is good probably worth 10 points to the club and loves the club 3
Posthorn54 Posted 15 June 2024 Posted 15 June 2024 We need to keep him and he will become club captain in the future
MPH Posted 15 June 2024 Posted 15 June 2024 12 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said: This mythical replacement that we are going to get with the next to no money we will have to spend that may or may not work out, or keep someone who we know is good probably worth 10 points to the club and loves the club no mythical money situation. If we sell him for 40m in this years it will count towards the FFP regulations. That money doesn’t disappear. We can then use it in the next years budget. 2
majaco Posted 15 June 2024 Posted 15 June 2024 9 hours ago, Posthorn54 said: We need to keep him and he will become club captain in the future It was interesting that Enzo had Hamza ahead of him in the captaincy hierarchy.
lcfcbluearmy Posted 15 June 2024 Posted 15 June 2024 5 hours ago, MPH said: no mythical money situation. If we sell him for 40m in this years it will count towards the FFP regulations. That money doesn’t disappear. We can then use it in the next years budget. If it only balences us we will still be tight on ffp next yer and won't have 40+ million to spend on one player
MPH Posted 15 June 2024 Posted 15 June 2024 35 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said: If it only balences us we will still be tight on ffp next yer and won't have 40+ million to spend on one player im not sure anyone is expecting to spend 40m on one player.. 1
lcfcbluearmy Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 13 hours ago, MPH said: im not sure anyone is expecting to spend 40m on one player.. Yes so we are just magically going to get a better player than KDH for 10-15 m? That's just not going to happen 1
Dahnsouff Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 31 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said: Yes so we are just magically going to get a better player than KDH for 10-15 m? That's just not going to happen No, we are going to get a worse player but be more financially secure. Just hope it’s a prospect. 1
ithuriel Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 Sell him to the other KP owned club for £40 million, then buy him back in a year for the same price or sell him on if he wants out after a year in Europe.
Hack Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 They seem to be interested in Longstaff from Newcastle as good likely replacement aren't they?
MPH Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 3 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said: Yes so we are just magically going to get a better player than KDH for 10-15 m? That's just not going to happen how can you be so sure? Maybe we will get someone as good as or better suited to whatever system the new manager wants to play.. 1
honeybradger Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 2 hours ago, Hack said: They seem to be interested in Longstaff from Newcastle as good likely replacement aren't they? If we sell dewbury hall and buy longstaff for 15 mil then that would be a terrible decision. Thankfully that probably wont happen. 3
JimJams Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 5 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said: Yes so we are just magically going to get a better player than KDH for 10-15 m? That's just not going to happen Hamer 15mill?
lcfcbluearmy Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 8 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: No, we are going to get a worse player but be more financially secure. Just hope it’s a prospect. Yes and that is a fair point it's just the original post that I responded too claimed we could get a better player
Dahnsouff Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 28 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said: Yes and that is a fair point it's just the original post that I responded too claimed we could get a better player Always possible I guess, just seems unlikely.
lcfcbluearmy Posted 16 June 2024 Posted 16 June 2024 10 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Always possible I guess, just seems unlikely. Yes I agree
ClaphamFox Posted 20 June 2024 Posted 20 June 2024 So it’s almost a week into the transfer window and there’s been barely a whisper of KDH leaving any time soon. Were all those stories about him being sold before the end of June to avoid another PSR breach completely wide of the mark?
Stadt Posted 20 June 2024 Posted 20 June 2024 56 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Probably can't get to the door quick enough. "Kiernan's got a great engine so he's doing a great job defensively on the left [of midfield] for us, it's not his natural position but his workrate is such an asset whilst Stephy is out. It means we can Yatesy forward more often and be a goal threat in the box" 1
FoxinNotts Posted 20 June 2024 Posted 20 June 2024 5 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: So it’s almost a week into the transfer window and there’s been barely a whisper of KDH leaving any time soon. Were all those stories about him being sold before the end of June to avoid another PSR breach completely wide of the mark? A massive 'elephant in the room' question, this is. Are we just ignoring PSR for 23/24 ? (unbelievably risky, if so!) Do we comply, and therefore we don't have to sell? Do we have something else up our sleeve to comply? The silence is deafening
ts_1010 Posted 21 June 2024 Posted 21 June 2024 This is the big one. There's so many variables in this it's untrue. I think we're just going to ignore the PSR for last season, and pray. It makes sense in a crazy, cold and logical way. But it could go very wrong. 1
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