Popular Post Legend_in_blue Posted 4 July 2024 Popular Post Posted 4 July 2024 I've willingly surrendered my familys future, our borders and my taxes this afternoon. Feels great 3 2
Sampson Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 7 minutes ago, Daggers said: Surprised she believes in voting in her libertarian utopia. She barely believes in there being a place for government at all as the markets will solve everything.
CosbehFox Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 Reports from Financial Times that Labour’s points on the polls are tailing off as Tories and Reform project to win marginal seats
Sampson Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 1 minute ago, CosbehFox said: Reports from Financial Times that Labour’s points on the polls are tailing off as Tories and Reform project to win marginal seats They’re not allowed to report things like that on polling day are they? 1
westernpark Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 14 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Reports from Financial Times that Labour’s points on the polls are tailing off as Tories and Reform project to win marginal seats Can’t see anything on FT app reporting that.
st albans fox Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 12 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Reports from Financial Times that Labour’s points on the polls are tailing off as Tories and Reform project to win marginal seats 11 minutes ago, Sampson said: They’re not allowed to report things like that on polling day are they? They’re not (which makes me wonder the veracity of any reports) and it doesn’t make sense anyway - Tory’s and reform will generally split the non labour vote 1
Guest worth_the_wait Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 Browsing the last few pages, just shows what a depressingly predictable thread it is. @Col city fan does his/her best to put an articulated balanced view - explaining how (correctly in my opinion) both Conservative and Labour have messed up various things in the last 50 years. And he just gets a "pile on" from the usual suspects, with their predictable one-sided blinkered view of the world. Does it never occur to you that all the mainstream parties (Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems) have some good policies, but also some not-so-good ones? Most of the mainstream parties have lots of decent hard-working MPs who serve their constituents, and don't behave like their wannabe cabinet/shadow cabinets colleague. And it's only the real crackpot hard left (Communist/Socialist Worker/etc etc) or hard right (Fascist/BNP/EDL/etc etc) that actually deserve our contempt with their extreme totalitarian view of things.
leicsmac Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 5 minutes ago, worth_the_wait said: Browsing the last few pages, just shows what a depressingly predictable thread it is. @Col city fan does his/her best to put an articulated balanced view - explaining how (correctly in my opinion) both Conservative and Labour have messed up various things in the last 50 years. And he just gets a "pile on" from the usual suspects, with their predictable one-sided blinkered view of the world. Does it never occur to you that all the mainstream parties (Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems) have some good policies, but also some not-so-good ones? Most of the mainstream parties have lots of decent hard-working MPs who serve their constituents, and don't behave like their wannabe cabinet/shadow cabinets colleague. And it's only the real crackpot hard left (Communist/Socialist Worker/etc etc) or hard right (Fascist/BNP/EDL/etc etc) that actually deserve our contempt with their extreme totalitarian view of things. The pile on might be from partisanship but it might also have a part in the viewpoint being cynical and (this is the important part) presenting a possibly legit problem without presenting a solution for it. Especially when people really want a solution, only forwarding half the equation might piss some folks off. What would be the solution, I wonder.
StanSP Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 11 minutes ago, worth_the_wait said: Browsing the last few pages, just shows what a depressingly predictable thread it is. @Col city fan does his/her best to put an articulated balanced view - explaining how (correctly in my opinion) both Conservative and Labour have messed up various things in the last 50 years. And he just gets a "pile on" from the usual suspects, with their predictable one-sided blinkered view of the world. Does it never occur to you that all the mainstream parties (Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems) have some good policies, but also some not-so-good ones? Most of the mainstream parties have lots of decent hard-working MPs who serve their constituents, and don't behave like their wannabe cabinet/shadow cabinets colleague. And it's only the real crackpot hard left (Communist/Socialist Worker/etc etc) or hard right (Fascist/BNP/EDL/etc etc) that actually deserve our contempt with their extreme totalitarian view of things. A pile-on? As far as I can see his points were debated with good arguments (ignoring my own ) He even acknowledged some of them positively...?
CosbehFox Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 35 minutes ago, westernpark said: Can’t see anything on FT app reporting that. Was a Twitter post by a Financial Times journo Tbf
Jimothy Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 10 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Was a Twitter post by a Financial Times journo Tbf You got the tweet or the journalists name?
leicsmac Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 10 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Was a Twitter post by a Financial Times journo Tbf I do hope they anonymised themselves or made it clear that their views are their own then, because otherwise they might be in a spot of bother with the regs.
CosbehFox Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 3 minutes ago, Facecloth said: You got the tweet or the journalists name? Was retweeted by the FT journo I follow 1 1
RobHawk Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 38 minutes ago, worth_the_wait said: Browsing the last few pages, just shows what a depressingly predictable thread it is. @Col city fan does his/her best to put an articulated balanced view - explaining how (correctly in my opinion) both Conservative and Labour have messed up various things in the last 50 years. And he just gets a "pile on" from the usual suspects, with their predictable one-sided blinkered view of the world. Does it never occur to you that all the mainstream parties (Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems) have some good policies, but also some not-so-good ones? Most of the mainstream parties have lots of decent hard-working MPs who serve their constituents, and don't behave like their wannabe cabinet/shadow cabinets colleague. And it's only the real crackpot hard left (Communist/Socialist Worker/etc etc) or hard right (Fascist/BNP/EDL/etc etc) that actually deserve our contempt with their extreme totalitarian view of things. That's not what he said at all, if he had I'd have agreed with him. I even mentioned the Iraq war as something I didn't agree with. But as others have said, it was hardly a pile on, but I think one particularly comment was so far wide of the mark a few people, myself included jumped on it. 2
Jimothy Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 12 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Was retweeted by the FT journo I follow Hmm see it's one of those isn't it, like when UKIP got about 4m votes, more than the LibDems and got zero seats whilst the LibDems got 20 odd. I don't see Reform having enough across the country to take many seats and in all honesty I think it's probably just making Labour more likely to win a few marginals. Because the are taking votes of both main parties but it won't be enough to translate to actual seats. Just the way our voting system works.
Paninistickers Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 Sample size of two, so there may well be some variance in my findings tbh.... however two of two had no idea of who they'd vote for and reckon only when in the booth to decide. I think the exit poll will show the Tories avoid total humiliation. And scramble to maybe 120-140 seats as many decide to stick with their traditional vite, almost out of pity
grobyfox1990 Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 1 hour ago, worth_the_wait said: Browsing the last few pages, just shows what a depressingly predictable thread it is. @Col city fan does his/her best to put an articulated balanced view - explaining how (correctly in my opinion) both Conservative and Labour have messed up various things in the last 50 years. And he just gets a "pile on" from the usual suspects, with their predictable one-sided blinkered view of the world. Does it never occur to you that all the mainstream parties (Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems) have some good policies, but also some not-so-good ones? Most of the mainstream parties have lots of decent hard-working MPs who serve their constituents, and don't behave like their wannabe cabinet/shadow cabinets colleague. And it's only the real crackpot hard left (Communist/Socialist Worker/etc etc) or hard right (Fascist/BNP/EDL/etc etc) that actually deserve our contempt with their extreme totalitarian view of things. Ofc that is true, but we’re in a record breaking spell of decline. We’ve watched a once great nation slip into irrelevance. Something has and will be done about that today. They might be super cool nice guys, which is nice, but they have proven they are unfit to govern 1
worthosoriginals Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 6 hours ago, Col city fan said: I’m fine! I’ve found it a really interesting thread, once you sift through the propaganda etc. And I’ve voted! Over and out matey Count binface got your vote no doubt.
Tuna Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 Found out why I didn't get a Lib Dem leaflet - my candidate lives in Newbury
Guest Col city fan Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 22 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said: Count binface got your vote no doubt. Go away, if I wanted to talk to a vegetable I’d have bought one at the market. (who is Count Binface anyway)? 😂
Guest Col city fan Posted 4 July 2024 Posted 4 July 2024 2 hours ago, worth_the_wait said: Browsing the last few pages, just shows what a depressingly predictable thread it is. @Col city fan does his/her best to put an articulated balanced view - explaining how (correctly in my opinion) both Conservative and Labour have messed up various things in the last 50 years. And he just gets a "pile on" from the usual suspects, with their predictable one-sided blinkered view of the world. Does it never occur to you that all the mainstream parties (Labour/Conservative/Lib Dems) have some good policies, but also some not-so-good ones? Most of the mainstream parties have lots of decent hard-working MPs who serve their constituents, and don't behave like their wannabe cabinet/shadow cabinets colleague. And it's only the real crackpot hard left (Communist/Socialist Worker/etc etc) or hard right (Fascist/BNP/EDL/etc etc) that actually deserve our contempt with their extreme totalitarian view of things. Thanks mate, but there’s no point on here tbh. Most of them have their minds made up already. One or two points got me thinking though. As always on FT though, as in any form of social media I guess, it always gets lost in translation. I’m just about to watch the proceedings as they come in. Cheers fella 👍
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