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[grobyfox1990]

7 minutes ago, MPH said:

I will just add though that the name of Farage is cropping up I think in some way to try and sidestep  blame for the Labour  that they may have broken election rules. Because ‘he already did it’. 
 

firstly I don’t think Farage is the sort of person Starmer should be comparing himself to . He should be above that. Above him. Also, if people are saying Farage did something wrong then they are basically admitting Labour have  too.

Yeh but that is where the opposition, the sitting office holder, is at now. Less than two weeks pre election. 'They did it already so it's fine!!!!!' Hilariously incompetent running of a campaign.

I am glad Starmer has not resorted to the 'they did it already' argument in relation to his sleaze being uncovered. At least I think and hope he hasn't.

[Wymsey]

Birmingham Airport bomb threat incident.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89vwyqgdn9o?xtor=AL-73-[partner]-[BBC+England]-[headline]-[news]-[bizdev]-[isapi]&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_link_origin=bbcmtd&at_link_type=web_link&at_link_id=BC55EFAC-913D-11EF-A649-93CEE805315E&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_format=link&at_medium=social

 

Edited 23 October 2024 by Wymsey

[BKLFox]

Environment Secretary Steve Reed said he had launched the "root and branch" probe to fix the UK's polluted and "failing" water system & vowed to take the water companies to task.......

Environment Secretary Steve Reed said he didn't know the £1,786 hospitality freebie was linked to water company responsible for discharging sewage into waterways.....ohh Stevie Stevie Stevie!!!

[David Hankey]

3 hours ago, BKLFox said:

Environment Secretary Steve Reed said he had launched the "root and branch" probe to fix the UK's polluted and "failing" water system & vowed to take the water companies to task.......

Environment Secretary Steve Reed said he didn't know the £1,786 hospitality freebie was linked to water company responsible for discharging sewage into waterways.....ohh Stevie Stevie Stevie!!!

Ah, the sleaze continues.

[ealingfox]

3 hours ago, BKLFox said:

Environment Secretary Steve Reed said he had launched the "root and branch" probe to fix the UK's polluted and "failing" water system & vowed to take the water companies to task.......

Environment Secretary Steve Reed said he didn't know the £1,786 hospitality freebie was linked to water company responsible for discharging sewage into waterways.....ohh Stevie Stevie Stevie!!!

 

Ok so why is he launching the probe and taking the companies to task if he's so obviously in their pocket because of a bit of hospitality?

[Facecloth]

BBC News - British shot put record holder Capes dies aged 75

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/articles/c36pn5d7eydo

[Tuna]

46 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

BBC News - British shot put record holder Capes dies aged 75

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/articles/c36pn5d7eydo

He lived at Stoke Rochford near Grantham, used to see him around there time to time on my rounds. He was into pigeon fancying after retiring. Bit of a lincolnshire local celebrity.

 

Edit: budgerigars not pigeons

Edited 23 October 2024 by Tuna

[izzymuzzet]

8 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Labour sending over help to the democrats is embarrassing and yet another poor move by this government however they are not the only ones doing it. 

I know it seems quite weird to non-politicos but this has been going on for decades and is perfectly legal as long as you’re not taking taxpayer funds to do it.

 

I know quite a few political activists who have campaigned in American elections and have met Australians and Americans who have campaigned in UK general elections. My first boss was a former Tory MP who took a month off work to campaign for Barack Obama in ‘08. If they’ve used Labour Party funds to pay for stuff that’s a cock up but can’t see how it’s illegal. 

[ealingfox]

5 minutes ago, Tuna said:

He lived at Stoke Rochford near Grantham, used to see him around there time to time on my rounds. He was into pigeon fancying after retiring. Bit of a lincolnshire local celebrity.

 

I hope this is a technical term...

[Jattdogg]

12 minutes ago, Tuna said:

He lived at Stoke Rochford near Grantham, used to see him around there time to time on my rounds. He was into pigeon fancying after retiring. Bit of a lincolnshire local celebrity.

 

Edit: budgerigars not pigeons

Anything can be curried.

[BKLFox]

1 hour ago, ealingfox said:

 

Ok so why is he launching the probe and taking the companies to task if he's so obviously in their pocket because of a bit of hospitality?

[davieG]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lg54y71r2o

 

 

Officers on trial over shooting suspects to get anonymity

 

Firearms officers facing trial over shooting suspects are to be given anonymity unless they are convicted, under reforms announced by the home secretary.

Yvette Cooper's announcement comes days after police officer Martyn Blake was cleared of murdering Chris Kaba, who was shot in the head during a vehicle stop in Streatham, London, in September 2022.

Cooper said there would be a "presumption of anonymity for firearms officers subject to criminal trial". The Home Office said later the right was still "subject to judicial discretion in individual cases".

Cooper added the Kaba case came against a "backdrop of longstanding concerns" about police accountability, standards and confidence.

The reform is part of a new package aimed at improving police accountability, and includes several measures proposed by the previous government in March.

They include:

[leicsmac]

19 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

If the working hypothesis/thoughtline here is that the current government is either equally or less concerned than the previous one regarding environmental concerns (as well as encouraging other nations to get in line on the matter), then something more than mere assertion might be required.

[urban.spaceman]

I love how we're all so used to political scandals from the Tories that, now what they've gone, Labour doing something within the rules and reporting it correctly is now considered to be "sleaze".

 

Just 4 months ago we had some Tory MPs betting on the date of election based on insider information from within No. 10, and another sharing his government colleagues phone numbers to someone he'd met on Grindr under the threat of them sharing pictures of his cock.

 

The best thing they can up with is "PM accepted a free ticket to see a popular music act, who was then the victim of an attempted terrorist attack elsewhere, and when the same act - whose shows earlier in the year had brought in millions to the UK economy - asked for better protection in the light of said terror attack and far right riots in the UK, the UK government happily obliged"

 

We need a better class of media in this country. The current lot are still drunk on 14 years of corruption - Laura K "accidentally" sent a former Tory Prime Minister her questions ahead of an interview for his book of lies before grilling a Labour minister about a tweet and lying brazenly to her viewers about it being from 2 years ago and in different context, while Kay Burley was tweeting Mills and Boon style tweets about a different Tory PM as if he hadn't called a snap referendum and left us in the shit for a generation OR been personally involved in the Greensill scandal that hasn't been covered by the media for years.

 

We deserve better.

[SecretPro]

1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

I love how we're all so used to political scandals from the Tories that, now what they've gone, Labour doing something within the rules and reporting it correctly is now considered to be "sleaze".

 

Just 4 months ago we had some Tory MPs betting on the date of election based on insider information from within No. 10, and another sharing his government colleagues phone numbers to someone he'd met on Grindr under the threat of them sharing pictures of his cock.

 

The best thing they can up with is "PM accepted a free ticket to see a popular music act, who was then the victim of an attempted terrorist attack elsewhere, and when the same act - whose shows earlier in the year had brought in millions to the UK economy - asked for better protection in the light of said terror attack and far right riots in the UK, the UK government happily obliged"

 

We need a better class of media in this country. The current lot are still drunk on 14 years of corruption - Laura K "accidentally" sent a former Tory Prime Minister her questions ahead of an interview for his book of lies before grilling a Labour minister about a tweet and lying brazenly to her viewers about it being from 2 years ago and in different context, while Kay Burley was tweeting Mills and Boon style tweets about a different Tory PM as if he hadn't called a snap referendum and left us in the shit for a generation OR been personally involved in the Greensill scandal that hasn't been covered by the media for years.

 

We deserve better.

100%

[Silebyfox_89]

3 hours ago, Tuna said:

He lived at Stoke Rochford near Grantham, used to see him around there time to time on my rounds. He was into pigeon fancying after retiring. Bit of a lincolnshire local celebrity.

 

Edit: budgerigars not pigeons

Quite a coop for the area.

[Jon the Hat]

10 hours ago, Otis said:

TBF there have been posters on here calling the Tory party Nazis.

...Equally bonkers.

Yeah especially as the Nazi's were on the LEFT!  *

 

 

 

 

 

*sorry couldn't help it.  Just ignore me

[Jon the Hat]

6 hours ago, ealingfox said:

 

Ok so why is he launching the probe and taking the companies to task if he's so obviously in their pocket because of a bit of hospitality?

This is the problem though, if you take hospitality you cannot avoid the impression of being influenced.  So don't take it if you are a politician in government.

[Jon the Hat]

5 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

We deserve better.

In theory we do, but in practice we treat our politicians like shit, and expect them to pander to our every whim and criticize them when they don't.  So we get facile idiots in the main.

[ealingfox]

6 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

This is the problem though, if you take hospitality you cannot avoid the impression of being influenced.  So don't take it if you are a politician in government.

 

Weird that it wasn't an issue before July this year though eh?

[Trav Le Bleu]

7 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

Yeah especially as the Nazi's were on the LEFT!  *

 

 

 

 

 

*sorry couldn't help it.  Just ignore me

National Socialists.

 

But then East Germany was the Democratic Republic.

 

Which suggests Germans have got things all wrong.

[Jon the Hat]

30 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

Weird that it wasn't an issue before July this year though eh?

Obviously it was, but the Tories didn't make their whole ethos about replacing their dodgy corrupt predecessors.

[leicsmac]

12 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

Obviously it was, but the Tories didn't make their whole ethos about replacing their dodgy corrupt predecessors.

If someone is viewing the matter objectively, that shouldn't be here or there anyway. It's a ridiculous irrational double standard fallacy borne by big sections of the press and social media that Labour have to be a lot cleaner than the Tories to get the same respect (that even Labour itself appear to have to have bought into for the sake of political expediency), and it should be challenged and rejected whenever it is stated.

[Dahnsouff]

28 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

If someone is viewing the matter objectively, that shouldn't be here or there anyway. It's a ridiculous irrational double standard fallacy borne by big sections of the press and social media that Labour have to be a lot cleaner than the Tories to get the same respect (that even Labour itself appear to have to have bought into for the sake of political expediency), and it should be challenged and rejected whenever it is stated.

If you are viewing it objectively, then political colours should have no dog in this fight, as the notion that political bias is consciously or unconsciously purchased by favours of any magnitude cannot (and must not) not be disregarded in favour of political point scoring. Non-partisan decisions are just not possible in a world where gifts form some sort of allowed  valueless currency.

[leicsmac]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

If you are viewing it objectively, then political colours should have no dog in this fight, as the notion that political bias is consciously or unconsciously purchased by favours of any magnitude cannot (and must not) not be disregarded in favour of political point scoring. Non-partisan decisions are just not possible in a world where gifts form some sort of allowed  valueless currency.

Yeah, that's things as they are. Corruption is a simple fact, but the more it's accepted, the more it grows.