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[Parafox]

21 hours ago, Daggers said:

 

 

He escaped.

 

By submarine.

 

Clever, he is.

 

Tidy.

[Trav Le Bleu]

The pictures of Farage at the Christmas hunt are all you need to know about him and the people who back him.

 

When you're doing that as your publicity push...

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

The pictures of Farage at the Christmas hunt are all you need to know about him and the people who back him.

 

When you're doing that as your publicity push...

... and the Telegraph were kind enough to give him a full front page spread of him describing exactly how he wants to tongue Musks ringpiece for money and power.

 

Unfortunately, we're in the rather interesting timeline where appealing to short-sighted self interest is actually working in quite a few places. As such, the next few years will likewise no doubt be...interesting.

[The Horse's Mouth]

The musk and far right battle past few days has been funny viewing 

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

The musk and far right battle past few days has been funny viewing 

To give more info on this

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyv7gxp02yo

 

Will be interesting to see if Trump and Musk can keep the outright (as opposed to sneakier) bigots onside.

Edited 28 December 2024 by leicsmac

[bovril]

Wait, you're saying that there is tension in populist right wing movements between the economic liberals who funded it and its voters who favour protectionism and strong immigration control? 

 

[SkidsFox]

1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

The musk and far right battle past few days has been funny viewing 

Seems like their "night of the long knives" is arriving sooner than expected!

[The Horse's Mouth]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

To give more info on this

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyv7gxp02yo

 

Will be interesting to see if Trump and Musk can keep the outright (as opposed to sneakier) bigots onside.

Think Trump and musks alliance definitely has fragilities and I don’t think he’ll want to give the tech bros too much power, but I think they’re probably quite aligned with immigration. 

[fox_favourite]

58 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Think Trump and musks alliance definitely has fragilities and I don’t think he’ll want to give the tech bros too much power, but I think they’re probably quite aligned with immigration. 

Oh the irony. Musk being Canadian/South African. 

 

I know, I know. Just find it funny. 

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Think Trump and musks alliance definitely has fragilities and I don’t think he’ll want to give the tech bros too much power, but I think they’re probably quite aligned with immigration. 

I'm inclined to think that Trump and Musk are aligned, but it seems rather certain that large parts of his first voter base are not, and he might have to do some work there.

[The Horse's Mouth]

2 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

Oh the irony. Musk being Canadian/South African. 

 

I know, I know. Just find it funny. 

Don’t thing there’s much irony tbh, trumps whole thing has been around illegal immigration nothing to do with legal 

[Jattdogg]

3 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

Oh the irony. Musk being Canadian/South African. 

 

I know, I know. Just find it funny. 

We don't want him and will gladly revoke his citizenship...and I'm an immigrant canadian citizen saying this lol.

 

An absolute tw@t and i hope tesla fails (it won't), can't stand the cvnt.

Edited 28 December 2024 by Jattdogg

[Sampson]

Much like the Tories post-Brexit or the populist right in Italy: they create anti-immigrant rhetoric but know that the native population is too old and so requires immigrants once they get into power and they aren’t prepared to rip the plaster off the economy which is so reliant on immigrants.

 

Part of me actually thinks we should let the populist Right have their wish and do net zero immigration for a decade and watch public services, the pension system and healthcare system spiral out of control from the elderly native population where no one is having children to make the point. But then they didn’t seem to care when that happened with Brexit and plenty of them still try and convince themselves it was the right decision.

Edited 28 December 2024 by Sampson

[Dunge]

7 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Much like the Tories post-Brexit or the populist right in Italy: they create anti-immigrant rhetoric but know that the native population is too old and so requires immigrants once they get into power and they aren’t prepared to rip the plaster off the economy which is so reliant on immigrants.

 

Part of me actually thinks we should let the populist Right have their wish and do net zero immigration for a decade and watch public services, the pension system and healthcare system spiral out of control from the elderly native population where no one is having children to make the point. But then they didn’t seem to care when that happened with Brexit and plenty of them still try and convince themselves it was the right decision.

Nah. It’s one of the many things the far right and the far left share: What they do fails but their excuse is that it wasn’t done with enough ideological purity.

[leicsmac]

Plane overshot the runway on landing at Muan Airport in Korea. Terrible footage, looks like only two people out of about 170 odd survived.

 

Unusual too, this kind of thing really doesn't happen with modern aircraft.

[Lionator]

3 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Plane overshot the runway on landing at Muan Airport in Korea. Terrible footage, looks like only two people out of about 170 odd survived.

 

Unusual too, this kind of thing really doesn't happen with modern aircraft.

Why was there a wall at the end of the runway is the big question 

[martyn]

I'd be wondering more why the landing gear was retracted

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Why was there a wall at the end of the runway is the big question 

To protect the surroundings from takeoff backblast, looking at the map.

 

Such a wall being involved like this is practically unheard of in the last few decades.

 

5 minutes ago, martyn said:

I'd be wondering more why the landing gear was retracted

Apparently they had a missed approach before making the attempt that ended like this, but who knows? The flight recorder has been recovered, so I guess in time people will know.

 

[Noahfence]

I seem to remember there being a few plane crashes/incident this time last year as well? 

[Lionator]

It wouldn’t surprise me if the Russians had tampered with the South Korean plane given their links to North Korea.

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, Lionator said:

It wouldn’t surprise me if the Russians had tampered with the South Korean plane given their links to North Korea.

That didn't happen in the Cold War (KAL 007 was a case of miscommunication and mistaken identity, not malice), there's no real reason for it to happen now. No need to argue conspiracy when there's not even a shred of evidence for it.

[Paninistickers]

3 hours ago, martyn said:

I'd be wondering more why the landing gear was retracted

No landing gear. Pilot didn't radio a mayday for the fire crews to be ready and foam on runway. No flaps extended to slow plane down. But reverse thrust had been engaged. 

 

Lots of contradictory actions and inactions there. 

[Electric Yetis]

8 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

No landing gear. Pilot didn't radio a mayday for the fire crews to be ready and foam on runway. No flaps extended to slow plane down. But reverse thrust had been engaged. 

 

Lots of contradictory actions and inactions there. 

Says a mayday was called here.

 

 

[jgtuk]

35 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

That didn't happen in the Cold War (KAL 007 was a case of miscommunication and mistaken identity, not malice), there's no real reason for it to happen now. No need to argue conspiracy when there's not even a shred of evidence for it.

This sort of conjecture/conspiracy is exactly the reason that I don’t use social media. 

[leicsmac]

34 minutes ago, Electric Yetis said:

Says a mayday was called here.

 

 

Seems then that the most likely pathway was there was an initial approach that resulted in a birdstrike that damaged systems enough for the Mayday call and for the plane to have to attempt another landing immediately with no time for ground teams to ready themselves, and either the damage or negligence meant that the landing gear couldn't be deployed, resulting in the second attempt which ended tragically.

 

But it's only when the flight data boxes have been analysed that we'll really get the full picture.

Edited 29 December 2024 by leicsmac