Bilal El Khannouss joins - Official

[Finnegan]

26 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Given that there would be zero benefit to us in loaning him out (for all the reasons you describe), what makes you think it's 'very likely' to happen?

 

Because if he downs tools and refuses to play to force a move then it might be the best we can possibly get out of a shit situation. 

 

He threw his toys out of the pram to get his love to Leicester, refusing to train. If people haven't learned from Fofana they're naive. 

 

Last relegation we had Soumare, Daka and Kristiansen all trying to immediately leave the club. 

 

I highly doubt Sevilla covered the entire cost of Bouba's amortisation and wages we just had to make do with the best we could get out of them. Kristiansen was a bit different because we didn't pay too much for him and I doubt his wages are as high but we wouldn't exactly have made enough there to spend much. 

 

"Very likely" is probably me being a bit miserable but it's certainly very possible. 

 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Not saying he's going to try the same shenanigans again...but I don't think we can rule it out either...

 

 

 

[ClaphamFox]

4 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Because if he downs tools and refuses to play to force a move then it might be the best we can possibly get out of a shit situation. 

 

He threw his toys out of the pram to get his love to Leicester, refusing to train. If people haven't learned from Fofana they're naive. 

 

Last relegation we had Soumare, Daka and Kristiansen all trying to immediately leave the club. 

 

I highly doubt Sevilla covered the entire cost of Bouba's amortisation and wages we just had to make do with the best we could get out of them. Kristiansen was a bit different because we didn't pay too much for him and I doubt his wages are as high but we wouldn't exactly have made enough there to spend much. 

 

"Very likely" is probably me being a bit miserable but it's certainly very possible. 

 

If we refused an offer to buy him from a big club that he really wanted to join, it's possible he might down tools. But I can't see him throwing his toys out of the pram over a loan move to a mid-ranked PL side. And even if he did have a sulk but we held firm, do you think he'd refuse to play for the entire season? I can't see it - it wouldn't do his career any good at all to get that kind of reputation at such a young age.

 

Nobody was bothered about loaning out Soumare or Kristiansen because they were no losses to the team. I suspect we'd adopt a much tougher stance on Bilal as he could make a massive difference for us next season.

[adamkhalifa]

The guy has had 1 decent game in like 20 starts. 

Can't find a killer pass to save his life. 

He is way to raw for an established club.

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Possibly. Countries like Morocco are going to be different to England though and will play players who aren’t not necessarily in the top division as they don’t have as many options. The 2nd tier in England is still well within the top 10 leagues in the world.

 

With England, we select often based on reputation so if a player is relegated with their club, they will instantly be cast aside.

 

He can probably get some sort of reassurance from his national coach anyway. I suspect they are a lot concerned with their players sitting around taking money without playing like Vestergaard often has.

Would Morocco prefer if he went to Leeds for example and had another relegation season next season with 3 goals and 2 assists, or have a season at the business end of the Championship with us with 20/25/30 goal contributions? You could argue it either way until the cows come really. 

[Gamble92]

2 hours ago, adamkhalifa said:

The guy has had 1 decent game in like 20 starts. 

Can't find a killer pass to save his life. 

He is way to raw for an established club.

 

Feel like he's shown more than enough for a top division European team to at least want him for a season. 

 

I think his agent and co will see it as a bad career move to drop down. Just the way modern footballers are.

[HankMarvin]

7 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Would Morocco prefer if he went to Leeds for example and had another relegation season next season with 3 goals and 2 assists, or have a season at the business end of the Championship with us with 20/25/30 goal contributions? You could argue it either way until the cows come really. 

Leeds are one of those sickly type of clubs that will probably do ok when they get promoted this time, well if they get rid of Farke 

[Bilo]

He's very young, very raw but clearly a talented lad. If we can hang on to him, he will be ridiculous at Championship level and could wreak havoc most weeks. At PL level, he simply hasn't shown enough for any club above a relegation battle to take a punt on him. There really wouldn't be much point in him downing tools to try and force a move to Burnley only to end up doing the same in 12 months because they've been relegated. 

 

Depending on who comes in and our own transfer business/managerial appointments, he could be the key player in an exciting, young promotion chasing side and, this time next year, the linchpin of a Premier League club with a bit of ambition. 

[Finnegan]

2 hours ago, adamkhalifa said:

The guy has had 1 decent game in like 20 starts. 

Can't find a killer pass to save his life. 

He is way to raw for an established club.

 

 

This is an awful post.

 

[FrankieADZ]

has a "reasonable release clause"

Edited 21 April by FrankieADZ

[Number 6]

I don't think he's shown that much in the Prem to be honest. Interest from abroad maybe, but I don't think I'd be hugely sad if we made some money on him. Think he'd do very well in the Champ though.

[FrankieADZ]

sad to see him go tbf, guess reasonable release will be around £30mil, since we paid like £19mil for him

[Happy Fox]

1 minute ago, FrankieADZ said:

sad to see him go tbf, guess reasonable release will be around £30mil, since we paid like £19mil for him

Most likely 20-22m doubt we would get 30m for him.

[coolhandfox]

33 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Most likely 20-22m doubt we would get 30m for him.

Not sure you'd negotiate a release clauses so close to the original fee.

 

You want to rack a reasonable profit, I'd be surprised if its in the lower 20s.

[Cropwellfox]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Not sure you'd negotiate a release clauses so close to the original fee.

 

You want to rack a reasonable profit, I'd be surprised if its in the lower 20s.

This is Rudkin we are talking about. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s set around 25 mill 

[K789]

Decent potential but 30 mill would be a good price 

[JimJams]

8 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Not sure you'd negotiate a release clauses so close to the original fee.

 

You want to rack a reasonable profit, I'd be surprised if its in the lower 20s.

I think you might to convince the player to sign. Essentially a relegation buy out price as 50% profit, I would prefer to keep but we need to cut our cloth.

 

 

*Actually we're in agreement here, I've crossed wires with the other poster. I think 30mill is more the ball park as a reasonable fee after relegation.

Edited 21 April by JimJams
Pissed up innit.

[South Shire Fox]

Him and Hermansen will be gone. Our only two players who realistically we will be able to cash in big on

[coolhandfox]

2 minutes ago, Cropwellfox said:

This is Rudkin we are talking about. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s set around 25 mill 

Maybe, 25m would still allow us is to book a profit if we sale him after June, he will have accounting value of 14m, so accounting profit of 11m would be helpful.

[coolhandfox]

4 minutes ago, JimJams said:

I think you might to convince the player to sign. Essentially a relegation buy out price as 50% profit, I would prefer to keep but we need to cut our cloth.

 

 

*Actually we're in agreement here, I've crossed wires with the other poster. I think 30mill is more the ball park as a reasonable fee after relegation.

28m minimum at least.

Edited 21 April by coolhandfox

[FrankieADZ]

59 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Most likely 20-22m doubt we would get 30m for him.

 

as others have said, no way would they do it for the low £20mil's 

we'd get hardly anything profit wise,

 

i know people say about its Rudkin, but the club aint that dumb when it comes to selling*

 

*sometimes

 

fully expect the the clause to be around £30mil

which for a player of his age and talent is pretty cheap

 

rather keep him mind

[les-tah]

1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said:

has a "reasonable release clause"

Let him go if he doesnt want to stay and help us back up. Huge potential but wasnt amazing every game and will only sit on the bench at another club in the prem.

 

that said if we are able to convince him to stay we should build the centre of the park around him and he will be twice the player if we go back up after further development in the champ.

Edited 21 April by les-tah

[Simonb]

I think 25m would be fair. Has the potential to get to the 40m mark in a year or two, but hasn't been consistently very good. Looks like the sort of player that'd end up at West Ham, starring for a couple months and then drifting in and out of form. 

 

Would be happy to hold on to him, but at the same time wouldn't be bothered to lose him either 

[Scotch]

Very much want to keep him. Give him a full season at #10 with Mavididi and Fatawu at either side behind a new striker... get a bit of form into those 3 and they should be more than enough creativity for the Championship. 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

I think the £24m that Spurs paid to Burnley for Odobert last summer is probably a realistic ball-park fee that we could get.