Prem Officiating Abomination Journal 24/25

[st albans fox]

sounds like it might still be some time - and I’m confident it will be a let down because everyone will expect what they got in the World Cup 
 

 

[LFox99]

we're onto another one

[HybridFox]

1 min stoppage time when the guy takes about 3 mins to put his boot on alone

[StanSP]

You know it's bad when both sets of fans are chanting 'you don't know what you're doing'... 

[UniFox21]

He was poor today. Weird decision making across the board if I'm honest. Never got the chance to impact the game, but all the same not the level needed

[Bert]

He was crap wasn’t he. 
 

The foul he gave to them when Ayew got in front of Lamptey was horrendous. Nearly all the ground were on their feet. One late in the second half where Vardy gets taken out and he signals

a “coming together”. Then he was just inconsistent for both teams wasn’t he. So many cheap soft shitty fouls given. 

[teblin]

49 minutes ago, Bert said:

He was crap wasn’t he. 
 

The foul he gave to them when Ayew got in front of Lamptey was horrendous. Nearly all the ground were on their feet. One late in the second half where Vardy gets taken out and he signals

a “coming together”. Then he was just inconsistent for both teams wasn’t he. So many cheap soft shitty fouls given. 

He was consistent. He was bad all the time.

[ceebeefox]

He started badly and then deteriorated! 

[fazzyfox]

(Tw)Attwell? I hadn’t realised as I’m supposed to avoid his games on Dr’s orders! Many years ago one typical display of his version of officiating gave me heart rhythm problems,  I had to remove myself from his vicinity and sit on the concourse steps it was that bad. His decisions aren’t just bad they’re illogical. The ball changes direction but he denies that contact was made etc. He was described by a PL manager as a “Danger to players safety” as he lets so much go unpunished but then blows for the slightest thing at other times. If Vardy’s incident was a coming together so were the three or four that led to Brighton FK’s on the edge of our box.

[davieG]

If you're a Wolves fan

 

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VAR: “Yes, Mavropanos clearly stands on Bellegarde’s foot in the box, but having looked at the replay, you can clearly see the Wolves badge on his shirt, so no penalty.”

[FrankieADZ]

29 minutes ago, davieG said:

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VAR: “Yes, Mavropanos clearly stands on Bellegarde’s foot in the box, but having looked at the replay, you can clearly see the Wolves badge on his shirt, so no penalty.”

lets not forget the fact of the WHU first goal wasnt a corner, second there was a foul in the lead up, third the push from Emerson, then that foul on bellegarde

 

was a right stinker of a night for the officials and to be a wolves fan, everything went against them

PGMOL will more than likely think they are right on all accounts tho

[StanSP]

Whoever today's ref is not sending Guimaraes off. 

[sdb]

Didn't Bruno score against us the other season after he should've been red carded?

[Super_horns]

8 minutes ago, sdb said:

Didn't Bruno score against us the other season after he should've been red carded?

Seems to get away with a lot to me.

 

Usually gets booked but avoids a second somehow .

[dmayne7]

The fact he hasn't sent been sent off completely ruined this game. It's one of the worst decisions you'll ever see because the second challenge is almost certainly a red, but it should be impossible for him not to get at least a yellow for the dive, given it was called a foul for diving? I really don't understand how that didn't happen.

[Ian Nacho]

Since when was diving not a bookable offence?

[davieG]

5 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

The fact he hasn't sent been sent off completely ruined this game. It's one of the worst decisions you'll ever see because the second challenge is almost certainly a red, but it should be impossible for him not to get at least a yellow for the dive, given it was called a foul for diving? I really don't understand how that didn't happen.

 

5 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Since when was diving not a bookable offence?

Since refs have been inconsistent which is probably forever. 

[FrankieADZ]

is it me or is the standards of the officials in general getting worse by the season?

VAR was brought in to cut out mistakes but even now more keep on happening

 

so many times this season were decisions have baffled us all

all we want is consistency but the only thing they are being consistent with is poor decisions and general performances

[majaco]

9 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

is it me or is the standards of the officials in general getting worse by the season?

VAR was brought in to cut out mistakes but even now more keep on happening

 

so many times this season were decisions have baffled us all

all we want is consistency but the only thing they are being consistent with is poor decisions and general performances

A former Premier League manager,Steve Cooper,noted that between jobs,he had observed how officiating had not kept pace with other aspects of the Premier League 

[dmayne7]

26 minutes ago, davieG said:

 

Since refs have been inconsistent which is probably forever. 

This isn't about inconsistentcy though. It's one of those rules/laws that was absolutely black and white. If he had not given a pen and also not given us a free kick, then we could complain that he's should have given us a foul and the booking for the dive.

 

But he gave the free kick because he seemed it a dive, so therefore it is an automatic booking. No subjectivity there. He absolutely has to be dropped off the next round of games as that just smacks of incompetence. 

 

Even beside that, Bruno's next challenge would have been a red 9/10 as well.

 

We were so poor but make no mistakes about how much of a difference that would have made.

[Super_horns]

15 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

is it me or is the standards of the officials in general getting worse by the season?

VAR was brought in to cut out mistakes but even now more keep on happening

 

so many times this season were decisions have baffled us all

all we want is consistency but the only thing they are being consistent with is poor decisions and general performances

Well with so many subjective decisions there will be inconsistencies .

 

But yes there still has been a few bad calls or stuff where you wonder why the VAR has a different opinion to the on pitch ref .

 

Robertson was unlucky in a way.

Raul should have scored so probably would have just been booked .

Edited 14 December 2024 by Super_horns

[davieG]

10 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

This isn't about inconsistentcy though. It's one of those rules/laws that was absolutely black and white. If he had not given a pen and also not given us a free kick, then we could complain that he's should have given us a foul and the booking for the dive.

 

But he gave the free kick because he seemed it a dive, so therefore it is an automatic booking. No subjectivity there. He absolutely has to be dropped off the next round of games as that just smacks of incompetence. 

 

Even beside that, Bruno's next challenge would have been a red 9/10 as well.

 

We were so poor but make no mistakes about how much of a difference that would have made.

That's exactly about inconsistency, of judgement and competennce.

[st albans fox]

15 hours ago, Super_horns said:

Well with so many subjective decisions there will be inconsistencies .

 

But yes there still has been a few bad calls or stuff where you wonder why the VAR has a different opinion to the on pitch ref .

 

Robertson was unlucky in a way.

Raul should have scored so probably would have just been booked .

Robertson will surely have that overturned on appeal 

if wasn’t a denial of a goal scoring opportunity because Wilson kicked the ball sideways towards a backtracking Liverpool defender and jiminez.  Wilson was not denied the chance of scoring by the foul. If the action of the foul had forced him to take the ball sideways then you have an argument but it just didn’t . He played it sideways and then got taken out. 
 

JUST RE WATCHED IT AND IM WRONG 😀

Edited 15 December 2024 by st albans fox

[dmayne7]

10 hours ago, davieG said:

That's exactly about inconsistency, of judgement and competennce.

But I think when we talk about inconsistentcy, we're talking about it when 1 challenge is deemed a foul but another is not. Generally that's within the same game but it may also extend to similar types of challenges across different games when 1 has resulted in a red card but the other was not punished. Point is, that is ultimately subjective even if 9/10 people believe the decision made by the referee to be incorrect.

 

This was a simple case of 'fact'. If you have decided that the ball was last touched by a defensive player before going behind, the automatic result is corner. There's no room for subjectivity. It's no different here. The referee had identified it was a dive so gave it as a free kick and so a yellow card must follow. It's simple and not a matter of opinion.

[The Doctor]

does this bald twat know you're supposed to book players for persistent fouling?