Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[Fear Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

7 straight defeats

18 goals conceded

2 goals scored.

 

Whats to debate anymore. 

He's just another one who was handed freely a manager's license by FIFA because he was a player and a millionaire. Compare this case to Still's one. 

[Eskay]

Reckon he could walk. Will be interesting to see if he comes out in the next few weeks and says the club has stiffed him on signings. 

 

We keep forgetting that they haven't even let him hire any back room staff. The whole situation is bizarre 

[nettle]

I actually thought he might be decent but he's worse than Cooper and he was absolutely shite but kept nicking points. I think he'll walk personally he's got none of his own backroom staff and hasn't been backed with any players either. I'm not sure what to make of it all really.

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

This bloke is so far out of his depth it's untrue. Just stands on the sideline with his arms folded, no coaching, no encouragement, no bollockings. 

 

Just highlights the level of incompetency st board level that they thought that a bloke who managed 1 season in the Dutch league, and won 4 games as United caretaker would be up for the task of a relegation battle.

 

Been dealt a shite sandwich in terms of playing squad and injuries but he has taken us backwards which was an incredibly low bar as Cooper was in our top 3 worst managers of all time.

 

Get Dyche in this week if we can, would atleast bring some discipline, style of play no matter how ugly and graft that we have none of at the minute. Also will be a solid option in trying to navigate through the Championship next season. 

[Clever Fox]

1 hour ago, The Bear said:

Gary O'Neil has zero relegation on his CV and talks a very good game. 

He done a great job at Wolves and was building a good side there until things turned a little sour for him.

 

I certainly wouldn't mind him here and he's come cheap.

Edited 18 January by Clever Fox
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[HybridFox]

For a prolific striker as a player, we are 4 home league games without a goal. Not solely to blame but it's a worrying pattern he HAS to sort out 

[bovril]

Speaks well. That's about it.

[Iran]

Killed our momentum with those substitutes (taking BEK and Winks off in place of McAteer and Skipp)...

 

To which shortly after Fulham got their second through Adama Traore...

[lcfcjosh]

Ruud Out

[Guy]

6 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

Those who were convinced Ruud was a great choice have gone very quiet, even more so the ones that were bragging after we fluked 4 points in his first 2 games. Won nothing since then, scored 1 goal and look worse than we did under Cooper. Don't see where we get a point again. 

 

You can't blame Ruud for the squad, for that I have sympathy but he has changed nothing. System, players, tactics, attitude, desire are all so bad. 

 

I don't necessarily blame Ruud, but if we didn't have plans to a have a big January we should have 100% gone for a manager who can get the best out of average players. 

 

He looks exactly like i feared he would, an Great ex player out of his depth on the touchline. 

Basically another Gerrard or Rooney - end of!

[Wymsey]

6 hours ago, bovril said:

Speaks well. That's about it.

Am surprised at the lack of goals, barring tne QPR game, considering his own playing career.

 

Reckon lose at Spurs and he's moreorless certainly gone.

[Bluearmyfox28]

12 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Needs to sack off this tactic of the winger coming inside and the full back being a winger

 

It was shite when Cooper did it and it is still shite now

Genuinely don’t understand why the overlapping wingback has gone out of the window! It’s so effective and creates overloads you can’t deal with. It seems the only teams that still do it are Liverpool and Villa…. Working well for them! 

[ACF]

55 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Genuinely don’t understand why the overlapping wingback has gone out of the window! It’s so effective and creates overloads you can’t deal with. It seems the only teams that still do it are Liverpool and Villa…. Working well for them! 

When the opposition know the overlapping fullback has absolutely 0 end product, it does not create the overlap, and creates space for the counter.

[Guy]

19 hours ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

This bloke is so far out of his depth it's untrue. Just stands on the sideline with his arms folded, no coaching, no encouragement, no bollockings. 

 

Just highlights the level of incompetency st board level that they thought that a bloke who managed 1 season in the Dutch league, and won 4 games as United caretaker would be up for the task of a relegation battle.

 

Been dealt a shite sandwich in terms of playing squad and injuries but he has taken us backwards which was an incredibly low bar as Cooper was in our top 3 worst managers of all time.

 

Get Dyche in this week if we can, would atleast bring some discipline, style of play no matter how ugly and graft that we have none of at the minute. Also will be a solid option in trying to navigate through the Championship next season. 

As others have said then I think it's too soon to think about sacking RVN - and the only way will be if he walks instead. Meanwhile Dyche is probably having some well earned rest after what happened to him at Everton! I doubt he'll want to go from the frying pan back into the fire so soon as anytime soon to be honest! 

[Chrysalis]

On 15/01/2025 at 21:45, Benji said:

Cooper had pre season to train out any tactics the squad had left from last year.  Cooper bought absolute shite for the sake of ‘experience’ whilst leaving our players of the season from last season on the bench.  Cooper was gifted points by a goalkeeper playing world class game after game.  RvN has had none of these luxuries and whilst we can’t say if he’s the right or wrong man, we know for sure Cooper was a complete waste of space.  

Its all excuses, he had pre season, he's lucky, XG, it all doesnt matter.

Points does, and second to that, at least looking threatening in games.
Things like XG, possession, passing %, building out from the back.  They actually all dont matter, they might be nice things to have, but the bread and butter is points.

[Tomo260]

According to the latest Instagram post Ruud has admitted we need to start again with a different approach. I'm not Ruud out, my anger lies with the board for not sacking BR earlier which snowballed into our current mess.  We would have stayed up that season if they did which would have eliminated any of our current problems.

 

With our current squad I'd go for something like this.

 

3-4-2-1. Classic park the bus and counter attack with pace

 

 

Edited 19 January by Tomo260

[adam95581]

16 minutes ago, Tomo260 said:

According to the latest Instagram post Ruud has admitted we need to start again with a different approach. I'm not Ruud out, my anger lies with the board for not sacking BR which snowballed into our current mess. 

 

With our current squad I'd go for something like this.

 

3-4-2-1. Classic park the bus and counter attack with pace

 

 

This (or a variation on this) is what we need to see. We can’t keep doing the same thing and hoping for a different outcome. As much as Ruud gets some leeway due to the lack of signings, we need to see something different. NP went to a 3 in the great escape season and it did the trick. Not saying it’ll be the same now but we can’t keep conceding 2+ goals a game and a without a solid midfield, a 2 atb pairing just gets pulled apart. 

[Foxes_Ray La]

Never posted before but after yesterday I am absolutely ragin. 

 

Club's rotten from top to bottom. We are in a lot of barney rubble and we're stinking the prem out like a fart in a lift.

 

Get him gone

Edited 19 January by Foxes_Ray La

[String fellow]

Relegation virtually Nailed-on!

[CloudFox]

1 hour ago, Tomo260 said:

According to the latest Instagram post Ruud has admitted we need to start again with a different approach. I'm not Ruud out, my anger lies with the board for not sacking BR earlier which snowballed into our current mess.  We would have stayed up that season if they did which would have eliminated any of our current problems.

 

With our current squad I'd go for something like this.

 

3-4-2-1. Classic park the bus and counter attack with pace

 

 

I'm not a huge believer in 3ATB, but I quite like this. Uses our squad best, I think. If we don't have 2-3 quality wingers (we don't, especially with Fatawu injured), this makes most sense in facilitating a box midfield but adding more balance to the defence. By all accounts Coulibaly is good at getting up and down the flank, as Kristiansen can be too.

 

I do wish we had a striker better at holding up the ball though. That's not where Daka's (or Vardy's) strengths lie.

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, Tomo260 said:

According to the latest Instagram post Ruud has admitted we need to start again with a different approach. I'm not Ruud out, my anger lies with the board for not sacking BR earlier which snowballed into our current mess.  We would have stayed up that season if they did which would have eliminated any of our current problems.

 

With our current squad I'd go for something like this.

 

3-4-2-1. Classic park the bus and counter attack with pace

 

 

How come Faes is regularly chosen in a starting line up? 

 

Guy wants to leave, has history for wanting to leave, and is totally unpredictable which in turns leads him to be unreliable. 

 

Would Coady work in a back 3?

[CUJimmy]

I can’t see the club sacking RVN, I don’t know what it would cost but it’s money we can’t afford to be spending with PSR still likely to be a threat next season.

 

Having said that he might walk anyway and say that he is not being backed in the transfer market although walking out on a second club mid-season is not a great look for future employers.

[Tomo260]

10 minutes ago, StanSP said:

How come Faes is regularly chosen in a starting line up? 

 

Guy wants to leave, has history for wanting to leave, and is totally unpredictable which in turns leads him to be unreliable. 

 

Would Coady work in a back 3?

Yeah definitely. What I made was open to variation. I believe this formation and the counter attack is the best we can do with our squad.

We're rubbish in the final third anyway so might as well use Daka, Bilal and Facundo for pace on the counter while not committing too many forward and getting caught out like we consistently do

[Chrysalis]

On 19/01/2025 at 15:25, Tomo260 said:

According to the latest Instagram post Ruud has admitted we need to start again with a different approach. I'm not Ruud out, my anger lies with the board for not sacking BR earlier which snowballed into our current mess.  We would have stayed up that season if they did which would have eliminated any of our current problems.

 

With our current squad I'd go for something like this.

 

3-4-2-1. Classic park the bus and counter attack with pace

 

 

Bet Top wouldnt let him do it.

Crazy we always looked most dangerous on counter this season and last, and we try to shoe horn something else instead.

Edited 20 January by Chrysalis

[Outfox the Fox]

On 19/01/2025 at 15:25, Tomo260 said:

According to the latest Instagram post Ruud has admitted we need to start again with a different approach. I'm not Ruud out, my anger lies with the board for not sacking BR earlier which snowballed into our current mess.  We would have stayed up that season if they did which would have eliminated any of our current problems.

 

With our current squad I'd go for something like this.

 

3-4-2-1. Classic park the bus and counter attack with pace

 

 

Pretty much agree with all that, Tomo