Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[Leicester_Loyal]

13 hours ago, Mon.is.a.god said:

Got a feeling the board will stick with him as we beat QPR 6-2 in the cup.

 

The reality is, the majority of the Championship is of a very poor standard. Ruud will likely bring us back up with the current squad.

I’m willing to bet that’s fantasy rather than reality. 

[Aleksz]

He’s not going to be here next season. Baffling why they aren’t pulling the trigger now though.

[SuperMike]

If this incompetent a**e is at the club for even 2 or 3 more days, we can probably all see the scenario that, in the battles of the sh*te teams  (both at home, therefore no City goals), we will be thrashed by both Ipswich and the Saints. Okay - no big deal - but what will it do for our confidence going into next season knowing that the same-old-same-old story continues?

HE HAS TO GO.    NOW

[ClaphamFox]

13 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

He’s not going to be here next season. Baffling why they aren’t pulling the trigger now though.

Because sacking him would mean a payout and the club suspects it can save that money by pushing him into a position where he'll feel compelled to resign?

Edited 22 April by ClaphamFox

[Muzzy_no7]

Why the fillet ‘O’ fish is he still here 

[nnfox]

42 minutes ago, JimmyC74 said:

I would argue it's not knee jerk for Top to make a decision now, with relegation confirmed.  He should have all the evidence needed to decide whether to make changes in leadership before the season closes or as soon as it does.  

 

Until you identify and bring in a new DofF we continue to rely on the failed structure (Rudders / Glover and co) to reshape the squad and possibly identify / bring in a new manager.  With their recent record questionable at best, I wouldn't want them leading the reset.

 

Personally I would be tempted to ask Nige, health permitting,  to act as Sports Director - even on a temporary basis - to assess what was needed and put the right structures in place to build back.

I can certainly get on board with Nigel being DoF, but in my mind what needs to happen is the following:

 

1. Top needs to take a look at himself.  What sort of football club does he want to own? If he wants Leicester to get back to challenging for European competition and domestic trophies then he needs to make those ambitions clear and set his stall out as to how that's going to happen.  Perhaps set some targets... Top half Prem finish within 4 years, European football within 6... At least one domestic cup semi final in that time.

2. Rudkin is past his sell by date.  He needs moving sideways and away from this football club.  A new DoF should be appointed who is fully on board with Top's vision, not afraid to give reasoned arguments as to why something might not work, and come up with alternative solutions.  Then they need to be given the resources to begin the long road back to where we were.  The post should come with a huge level of responsibility and accountability.

3.  The DoF, bearing in mind the vision and the resources must then get the ball rolling on shaping the infrastructure at the club to ensure success, from academy to mens first team.

4.  A major part of that infrastructure is the men's first team manager.  This is an appointment that should be made early by the DoF where the plan is laid out and the manager is fully informed.  

5.  The manager, with the recruitment team and supported by the DoF need to the ruthlessly reshape the squad.

 

By replacing RVN now, you do the whole thing backwards.  We get a new manager hired by an underperforming DoF, pandering to Top's fantasy.  With the current set up, the Leicester manager job is a poisoned chalice.  Changes need to be seen to be made so that a decent manager can be tempted with a long term project.  It looks like Potter and Moyes both swerved us - with good reason.  We won't currently obtain our first choice manager without seriously lowering the bar.

 

Sacking RVN now would be pointless.  Maybe Andy King could steady the ship in the interim, but big changes need to happen before we get a new manager and whilst we have time, we should take that time.  It's not like we'll get someone in who will win the next 5 games at a canter and even if that did happen, we're still relegated and playing next season in the Championship.  We're 10 weeks away from July.  Next season is huge for us and the managerial appointment is a key decision we can't get wrong. 

 

[An Away Move]

Am I the only one thinking we should keep him? Chopping and changing again is not going to help us. 

[ACF]

32 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Because sacking him would mean a payout and the club suspects it can save that money by pushing him into a position where he'll feel compelled to resign?

They can put him on gardening leave until 2nd July and then pay him out.

 

Gets him out now and saves us for PSR

[filbertway]

2 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

Am I the only one thinking we should keep him? Chopping and changing again is not going to help us. 

I hope you are, but no doubt Rudkin will be equally impressed by us going 4 months without a home goal.

[Speedwell 🦊]

42 minutes ago, SuperMike said:

If this incompetent a**e is at the club for even 2 or 3 more days, we can probably all see the scenario that, in the battles of the sh*te teams  (both at home, therefore no City goals), we will be thrashed by both Ipswich and the Saints. Okay - no big deal - but what will it do for our confidence going into next season knowing that the same-old-same-old story continues?

HE HAS TO GO.    NOW

I agree.Any other club would have sacked him by now.Just goes to show the level of incompetence from Top and the board.

[David Hankey]

3 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

Am I the only one thinking we should keep him? Chopping and changing again is not going to help us. 

RVN hasn't helped us either. 

 

Am I the only thinking he is ruudy useless?

[Foxin_Mad]

4 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

Am I the only one thinking we should keep him? Chopping and changing again is not going to help us. 

Part of me agrees, there is zero point making a change with the current muppets still making decisions. It’s doubtful that changes, so why change anything. You just know these clowns bring in Martin - Poundland Rodgers. I’d rather keep Ruud

[ClaphamFox]

1 minute ago, ACF said:

They can put him on gardening leave until 2nd July and then pay him out.

 

Gets him out now and saves us for PSR

A delayed pay out is still a pay out - we'd just be pushing it into the next spending period, where money will likely be very tight again. If he resigned we wouldn't have to pay him anything. 

 

I've no idea what's happening behind the scenes, but RVN has been hinting for weeks that he's getting frustrated with the owners because they haven't sat down with him to discuss next season. It just sounds a bit like when somebody wants to end a relationship but doesn't have the stomach for the break-up conversation, so starts acting all distant and doesn't return calls etc in the hope that the other person will get fed up and do the dumping. 

[Foxin_Mad]

1 minute ago, David Hankey said:

RVN hasn't helped us either. 

 

Am I the only thinking he is ruudy useless?

The club haven’t really helped him and are they going to find anyone better and help them with the current bunch of clowns in charge, I doubt it. 

[RoboFox]

1 hour ago, An Away Move said:

Am I the only one thinking we should keep him? Chopping and changing again is not going to help us. 

Weirdly you're not alone in thinking this.

 

Which I struggle to understand because Van Nistelrooy is an absolutely hopeless football manager and we won't get anywhere near the playoffs with him in charge next season.

 

Edited 22 April by RoboFox

[AjcW]

12 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

Am I the only one thinking we should keep him? Chopping and changing again is not going to help us. 

Aside from the two record equaling/breaking runs of form, the lack of goal for 9 home games and generally getting relegated... the way he's handled himself has been horrific.

For the last 10 or so games at full time he's strolled to the centre circle, shook hands with the ref... found a former colleague/someone dutch, figuratively sucked them off and then strolled back down the tunnel without acknowledging a single one of his players or our fans, home or away.

 

He's rotten.

Edited 22 April by AjcW

[filbertway]

2 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

The club haven’t really helped him and are they going to find anyone better and help them with the current bunch of clowns in charge, I doubt it. 

The fact we're awful, absolutely not competitive in the slightest in almost any game. He turn proceeds to turn into Bonnie Blue at the full time whistle with the opposition while ignoring his own players and fans. The bloke doesn't give a damn about this club and has absolutely no pride in it.

 

Him and Rudkin need to p*ss off at the exact same time.

[Bourbon Fox]

18 hours ago, wardyfox86 said:

OK yeah, saying he was just as bad is a touch harsh.

 

It's just frustrating to see other teams' fans spouting tripe like "that's what you get for sacking Cooper" and to see it coming from our own fans is worse.

 

The tide had turned with Cooper before he left, he lost 5 of his last 6 (against 10 man Ipswich, he drew) we were going down under him, and anybody else that came in, after that awful summer.

 

I'm not defending RVN, his tactics and non existent man management made certain we had no chance but look at the teams 17-and-up, we were never really in the same league.

We were holed below the waterline after our summer recruitment

[FLAN]

Keep him. He can only get better 😂

[Foxin_Mad]

5 minutes ago, filbertway said:

 

 

Him and Rudkin need to p*ss off at the exact same time.

This is the problem I’d put good money on Susan and Rudkin being here next year after another ‘investigation’ into what ‘confirmed our championship position in 25/26’.

 

Ruud staying might be less likely to paper over any cracks if they get lucky and by some miracle employ someone with competence. 

Edited 22 April by Foxin_Mad

[nnfox]

15 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

Am I the only one thinking we should keep him? Chopping and changing again is not going to help us. 

Changing now has more chance to actually damage us in the long term.  We have the luxury of time, we should use it.  Preferably wisely.

[st albans fox]

49 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Because sacking him would mean a payout and the club suspects it can save that money by pushing him into a position where he'll feel compelled to resign?

 

15 minutes ago, ACF said:

They can put him on gardening leave until 2nd July and then pay him out.

 

Gets him out now and saves us for PSR

I think the board  are again making a mess of this if they think RVN will resign.  What we don’t know is if his salary is also reduced in the championship as per the players.   Hence, sacking him in the summer may mean a lower payout. 
 

there may be a game of chicken going on between us and his agent.  You’d assume that the agent will make it clear he isn’t resigning and the club need to negotiate re a settlement.  

[FrankieADZ]

hate him even more

Edited 22 April by FrankieADZ

[Lionator]

3 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

hate him even more

If you were in his shoes you’d do the same. It’s the idiots once again giving out ridiculous contracts that are the issue.

[moore_94]

Stuck with him on the books until 1st July then

 

Just stick him on gardening leave and let be BBM and McSweeney be caretakers for the rest of the season