King Power Out

[Manc Fox J]

Just now, AjcW said:

Last line is interesting.... trying to get a load of people to leave of their own accord in the new year? 

Interesting thought, lots of businesses using return to office mandates to save on redundancy payments recently, could be a similar tactic?

[JonnyBoy]

this is unreal behaviour and not surprising in the slightest. When are they ever going to read the room. 

 

Grim, i suspect loads of people on the payroll will find this time of year extra hard and value the early payment which is completely normal by the way in any business to pay early in December. 

[JonnyBoy]

6 minutes ago, Scotch said:

Excuses should not be made for this. Benefit of the doubt should not be given for this. The easier we make it for them after the first time, means the likelier it is to happen again. We just need to look at Sheffield Wednesday for that. 

We have been ignoring or downplaying the warning signs for too long but there is a line and families not being paid has definitely crossed it. 

 

the problem is, a minority are willing to protest against the ownership. Therefore, not creating enough noise for change. 

 

 

[AjcW]

2 minutes ago, Manc Fox J said:

Interesting thought, lots of businesses using return to office mandates to save on redundancy payments recently, could be a similar tactic?

Problem is the job market is shocking... so they're probably just going to have pissed off employees for the foreseeable  

[Finnegan]

It's a shit way to treat your staff and it's alarming from a human decency perspective but people panicking that it's a sign of financial instability seems a bit weird. 

 

[Happy Fox]

Just now, Finnegan said:

It's a shit way to treat your staff and it's alarming from a human decency perspective but people panicking that it's a sign of financial instability seems a bit weird. 

 

 

How much money would non-playing staff accrue for the December wages? 1.5-2m? or up to 4m? either way it's a bit diabolical they won't get paid in time, and HR/employer would be in breach of employment law if that happened anywhere else.

[BrilliantFox]

How much do you want to bet Rudkin got paid on time? 

 

Not to mention the bonus he's about to get for such a shroud loan, bringing in a 35 year old cripple 

[Finnegan]

1 minute ago, Happy Fox said:

 

How much money would non-playing staff accrue for the December wages? 1.5-2m? or up to 4m? either way it's a bit diabolical they won't get paid in time, and HR/employer would be in breach of employment law if that happened anywhere else.

 

????? 

 

They're getting paid. They're just getting paid on their regular pay date instead of getting their pay early for Christmas like a lot of UK businesses do. 

 

My employer does it, I'll get paid on the 22nd this month instead of the last working day. Yours possibly does too. As far as I'm aware there's no law that stipulates it's compulsory, it's just a nice practice to help people out over Christmas. 

 

Then leaves you with that nasty long old slog through January to the next pay

 

Seriously. People are sensationalising this but other than it being a shitty thing to do and a crap way to treat your staff, there's not much of a story. 

 

[kenny]

5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

It's a shit way to treat your staff and it's alarming from a human decency perspective but people panicking that it's a sign of financial instability seems a bit weird. 

 

Sounds like a directive from a foreign owned corporate that doesn't care too much about what was always done by a small company they own in the UK.

[Bert]

The only way this is shit is if historically they’ve been paid before Christmas and people have been banking on it to get last minute bits, even more so if they’ve only been told at short notice. Otherwise, it’s the same for a lot of people across the country. 

[Pliskin]

This is abhorrent.
 

Regardless of your views on wether there should be an early pay day in December or not, you don’t decide a day before that you’re changing the pay date…..

 

Christmas can be a tough time as it is for a lot of people, mentally and financially, to drop this kind of bomb this close to what can be a very stressful time for some is completely and utterly unacceptable.

 

It just shows exactly the cowardly levels this organisation will stoop too….. they boast about being a “family club” but this is anything but, this is an utter disgrace and just shows them in their true colours…. A good for nothing bunch of cons. 
 

This should be the final nail in the coffin, but here will still be king power sheep, in the shop today spending £100.

 

This should outrage the biggest KPFC fan.

 

 

How about V QPR we all stay on the concourse until the 19th minute, and then go up and for the rest of the game chant sack the board….

 

Get Top gone….

[Bert]

1 minute ago, Pliskin said:

This is abhorrent.
 

Regardless of your views on wether there should be an early pay day in December or not, you don’t decide a day before that you’re changing the pay date…..

 

Christmas can be a tough time as it is for a lot of people, mentally and financially, to drop this kind of bomb this close to what can be a very stressful time for some is completely and utterly unacceptable.

 

It just shows exactly the cowardly levels this organisation will stoop too….. they boast about being a “family club” but this is anything but, this is an utter disgrace and just shows them in their true colours…. A good for nothing bunch of cons. 
 

This should be the final nail in the coffin, but here will still be king power sheep, in the shop today spending £100.

 

This should outrage the biggest KPFC fan.

 

 

How about V QPR we all stay on the concourse until the 19th minute, and then go up and for the rest of the game chant sack the board….

 

Get Top gone….

Have you ever been in the concourse at QPR!?  

[The_77]

Just now, Bert said:

The only way this is shit is if historically they’ve been paid before Christmas and people have been banking on it to get last minute bits, even more so if they’ve only been told at short notice. Otherwise, it’s the same for a lot of people across the country. 

Early pay in December has been the club’s practice for the last ten years and employees were given no indication that the payments would not go through today until “Monica” emailed the staff yesterday. 

[Bert]

Just now, The_77 said:

Early pay in December has been the club’s practice for the last ten years and employees were given no indication that the payments would not go through today until “Monica” emailed the staff yesterday. 

Well it’s an absolute disgrace then. 

[Pliskin]

4 minutes ago, Bert said:

Have you ever been in the concourse at QPR!?  

It’s a time for sharing isn’t it?

[The Year Of The Fox]

People are massively missing the point. In the same way people miss the point with these Macquarie loans to the tune £10m

 

If money was not an issue and it was purely down to wanting to align with the rest of KP pay days, then why not just do it at the end of January? That would be 5 weeks notice rather than 20 hours notice and nobody would have batted an eyelid 

[Happy Fox]

Just now, The Year Of The Fox said:

People are massively missing the point. In the same way people miss the point with these Macquarie loans to the tune £10m

 

If money was not an issue and it was purely down to wanting to align with the rest of KP pay days, then why not just do it at the end of January? That would be 5 weeks notice rather than 20 hours notice and nobody would have batted an eyelid 

 

Exactly mate it's in breach of employment law, staff by their contract would know their pay dates for the year, so to drop this news is abhorrent really.

[Will1981]

Disgraceful from the club again but could have been easily avoided by giving the staff 2 or 3 months notice.

[Fox forever]

19 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

????? 

 

They're getting paid. They're just getting paid on their regular pay date instead of getting their pay early for Christmas like a lot of UK businesses do. 

 

My employer does it, I'll get paid on the 22nd this month instead of the last working day. Yours possibly does too. As far as I'm aware there's no law that stipulates it's compulsory, it's just a nice practice to help people out over Christmas. 

 

Then leaves you with that nasty long old slog through January to the next pay

 

Seriously. People are sensationalising this but other than it being a shitty thing to do and a crap way to treat your staff, there's not much of a story. 

 

Companies don’t actually do it as a nice gesture. It’s so payroll, admin and HR staff can have Xmas off. 

[Stevosevic]

14 minutes ago, Bert said:

The only way this is shit is if historically they’ve been paid before Christmas and people have been banking on it to get last minute bits, even more so if they’ve only been told at short notice. Otherwise, it’s the same for a lot of people across the country. 

Ultimately the club never communicated they would get paid early. That’s my understanding anyway.

 

People made an assumption based on previous years. 

[Stevosevic]

2 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Exactly mate it's in breach of employment law, staff by their contract would know their pay dates for the year, so to drop this news is abhorrent really.

Their pay date is end of the month. Contractually. There is no breach. There hasn’t been a communication to Employees that they would be paid early this month.

[Mickyblueeyes]

There’s a way business decisions are made in a “well run” business. There’s a reason this decision has been made. Whether that be for cash flow or other financial reasons is one thing. But the fact it has been made or communicated so late is a worry beyond just being a bad way to treat staff. You don’t make decisions like this unless there is a reason beyond “aligning with a group which isn’t really within your group”. It’s right to be questioned. 

 

 

[grobyfox1990]

21 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

????? 

 

They're getting paid. They're just getting paid on their regular pay date instead of getting their pay early for Christmas like a lot of UK businesses do. 

 

My employer does it, I'll get paid on the 22nd this month instead of the last working day. Yours possibly does too. As far as I'm aware there's no law that stipulates it's compulsory, it's just a nice practice to help people out over Christmas. 

 

Then leaves you with that nasty long old slog through January to the next pay

 

Seriously. People are sensationalising this but other than it being a shitty thing to do and a crap way to treat your staff, there's not much of a story. 

 

It's not a 'nice practice' LOL. Your employer might have fed you that line but the reality is staff are off over the period and with the bank holidays systems will also be down and it's not worth the risk to stick to the usual pay day. So get them paid early and go away.

Also, people organise themselves around the dates they are paid. Some of my bills, investments, savings, card payments are all set to the day after pay day so I don't have to keep any money in my current account. I know countless others who do the same. To be told with 20 hours that will change causes unnecessary work and stress if you can't the payment date.

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Exactly mate it's in breach of employment law, staff by their contract would know their pay dates for the year, so to drop this news is abhorrent really.

I dont like this, but for transparency this once happened to me in a job many years back, where the payment came through post christmas.

 

Most employment contracts state payment date is 'on or around' a date towards the end of the month, and ive never had one that specifically states that December pay will come pre christmas. 

[grobyfox1990]

5 minutes ago, Fox forever said:

Companies don’t actually do it as a nice gesture. It’s so payroll, admin and HR staff can have Xmas off. 

Yep exactly, that and with payment systems not operating due to bank holidays. It's not a nice cuddly gesture LOL