Clever Fox Posted 3 January Posted 3 January 4 hours ago, desertfox2 said: He could be decent in a two but doesn't RVN tend to play one up front with 2 wide players? Yes, But that's because that's the only option we have. We are too one dementional. I've read that Ruud wants to sign a big strong CF. Someone who can hold the Ball the Ball up while others get into position. This is something we've needed ever since Rogers let Ulloa go and never replaced him. I think Cannon would trive in this system, Where he just needs to be quick over a short distance, which he is. And he has a finishers instincts for positioning. The strange thing is he hasn't even tried Edouard in any game so lets see what Happens in this Window. 3
gurru991 Posted 3 January Posted 3 January (edited) 46 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: The strange thing is he hasn't even tried Edouard in any game so lets see what Happens in this Window. Edouard must be absolute shit on the training pitch !! Edited 3 January by gurru991 1
Claridge Posted 3 January Posted 3 January 10 hours ago, gurru991 said: Edouard must be absolute shit on the training pitch !! Same as the pitch then 3
Foxdiamond Posted 3 January Posted 3 January On 02/01/2025 at 01:50, Lambert09 said: people are so quick to forget how harry kane looked for us ( same age as cannon). He was not bagging goals as consistently and certainly had a long way to go still. Where was toney or watkins at this age? Because he got a well paid move people just look at him as a senior pro rather than a kid who could only legally drink in the states as of last week. While i’m reminding everyone of his age, chris popov is 20… do we judge him the same? i’ve seen Everton fans still frustrated they sold him. I think that had he been from our academy, we’d be looking at him in a different light. I’m just annoyed that we aren’t in a financial position to be patient and see what level he can reach because the reality is that a 3 mil profit would probably be taken right now. If we go down, we’ll need a striker and would be looking at someone of his profile so selling him just seems barmy at this point. I remember asking my Spurs fan mate about Kane when he joined us on loan. He didn't rate him at all and the rest is history. Not sure we should be getting rid of Cannon without another proper look by Ruud. Don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water 4
Ric Flair Posted 5 January Posted 5 January Wasn't it rumoured he wasn't interested in leaving permanently due to his wages he's on? Maybe the distinct possibility we'll go down and he'll then be on much less might convince him to move on but then again he'll play more for us next season if so.
LCFCJohn Posted 5 January Posted 5 January Now Stoke have got Robins in, I’d be inclined to leave him there as Robins is a much better manager. Will be interesting to see how he gets on under him although a 0-0 draw at home to Plymouth was not a great start. Then again Plymouth had removed Rooney so probably had a lift themselves. I really hope he can have a strong second half to the season and come back full of confidence to lead the line next season. 1
LCFCJohn Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Wasn't it rumoured he wasn't interested in leaving permanently due to his wages he's on? Maybe the distinct possibility we'll go down and he'll then be on much less might convince him to move on but then again he'll play more for us next season if so. I don’t think there is really any PSR benefit to a sale based on what we purchased him for and what we’d likely sell for. We will gain much more benefit from him being out on loan and doing well so the question is really, Stoke or elsewhere for the rest of the season.
Popular Post jonthefox Posted 5 January Popular Post Posted 5 January He’s on 10 goals in 24 games so far. If he carries on this form and hits 20 , then he’s exactly the sort of striker we would be looking at. Regardless of our position. Hard keep from me. 5
Ric Flair Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 7 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said: I don’t think there is really any PSR benefit to a sale based on what we purchased him for and what we’d likely sell for. We will gain much more benefit from him being out on loan and doing well so the question is really, Stoke or elsewhere for the rest of the season. Depends. If we for example got £8m+ for him then we'll be £2-3m up on his book value and wages which is the equivalent of a £10-15m signing over 5 years for PSR. 3
Lesta2014 Posted 5 January Posted 5 January I’d not sell him now, especially if we end up with transfer embargo in EFL next season. 2
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 5 January Posted 5 January Unless there is clear evidence that he's already hit his ceiling we'd be nuts to sell. He's the future. Literally the only striker on our books who is. Vards, Daka, Eduoard will not be scoring us goals in 12 months time. 1
Silebyfox_89 Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Depends. If we for example got £8m+ for him then we'll be £2-3m up on his book value and wages which is the equivalent of a £10-15m signing over 5 years for PSR. Would you take a swap deal for Adebayo?
Mark Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 9 minutes ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said: Unless there is clear evidence that he's already hit his ceiling we'd be nuts to sell. He's the future. Literally the only striker on our books who is. Vards, Daka, Eduoard will not be scoring us goals in 12 months time. He doesn't do anything apart from an instinctive attempt going in every now and then, and has as much pace as Matt Fryatt had, he ain't making it in the PL. 1 1
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 2 minutes ago, Mark said: and has as much pace as Matt Fryatt had, he ain't making it in the PL. That's ok though as we won't be seeing the PL again for the foreseeable after this season.
Sly Posted 5 January Posted 5 January On 02/01/2025 at 21:25, Sly said: He’s been patchy though. 4 in one game against Portsmouth, who are woeful. One was a penalty. One was a freekick. Two from open play. 1 goal against Derby - Penalty 1 goal against Blackburn - Penalty. 1 goal against QPR - Open play. 1 goal against Luton - Open play. 1 goal against Sunderland - Open play. In the 21 games he’s played, he’s scored in 6 of them. Of that 21 games, he’s only scored in 4 games from open play. He’d struggle in the Premier League. His shooting is largely long range and good keepers and better defenders don’t allow those shots to go in. The crowd and fans would quickly turn, as it would be like watching Undër again! So he’s now 22 games, scoring in 4 of them from open play. I think he’d struggle at the top end of the Championship, never mind the Premier League. He’s a pot shot merchant like Ben Marshall use to be for us. Sell at the first opportunity.
Sly Posted 5 January Posted 5 January I mean, this is him compared to Daka, who most of our fans despise, playing in a lower league.
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 1 hour ago, Mark said: He doesn't do anything apart from an instinctive attempt going in every now and then, and has as much pace as Matt Fryatt had, he ain't making it in the PL. That doesn't address the fact that he's the only one with potential to be around in a year. Phase out the shite & the old first before the (possible) succession plan. He's not the Messiah granted. But he's still young. And a squad needs 3+ strikers
Headcase Posted 5 January Posted 5 January On 03/01/2025 at 02:07, gurru991 said: Edouard must be absolute shit on the training pitch !! Apparently hes not fit enough, and they were doing extra training with him but, Apparently his attitude to the extra training sucks, not sure why he is still here, unless there is a clause
JimJams Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 2 hours ago, Sly said: I mean, this is him compared to Daka, who most of our fans despise, playing in a lower league. Whilst I am firmly not in the "Bring Cannon Back" brigade, I think it's a tad unfair to compare their champ seasons given Daka was playing in the best side in the league and having watched Stoke in a number of matches this season, he's been playing in a side that makes our current prem team look adventurous going forward. They're horrible. Or at least they were before the sacked Pelach. For me if we can get back what we bought him for minimum, then sell on the basis that we can use that money to buy someone in for the backline rather than a backup striker who may never kick a ball for us.
Sly Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 1 hour ago, JimJams said: Whilst I am firmly not in the "Bring Cannon Back" brigade, I think it's a tad unfair to compare their champ seasons given Daka was playing in the best side in the league and having watched Stoke in a number of matches this season, he's been playing in a side that makes our current prem team look adventurous going forward. They're horrible. Or at least they were before the sacked Pelach. For me if we can get back what we bought him for minimum, then sell on the basis that we can use that money to buy someone in for the backline rather than a backup striker who may never kick a ball for us. That’s comparing Daka this season with Cannon this season. 1
Sly Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 2 minutes ago, JimJams said: Fair point I didn’t actually check to see how Daka was in the Championship. It’s a weird league, as I think ability wise, it’s better than Some of the dross that gets into UEFA competitions.
Lambert09 Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 3 hours ago, Sly said: I mean, this is him compared to Daka, who most of our fans despise, playing in a lower league. If Daka had a run of 5 90s I’d wager his numbers drastically drop. Cannons playing in a stoke team just as bad as us, even vardy is getting more chances than him.
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 5 January Posted 5 January If there’s a chance to sell him, we need to take it. His value is only going to go down when people realise he’s rubbish so get what you can now. 1
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