LCFC will NOT face any charges for breaching PSR

[Jattdogg]

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit.

[pkonline]

Great news - at least we'll be relegated on sporting merit 

[jv1]

3 minutes ago, Daggers said:

 

that's a shocker- they should be embarrassed- credibility - if they had any is absolutely in the bin

[Mickyblueeyes]

7 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Can we stop the term stating the PL is appealing, they can't appeal it. 

 

They have to prove that 3 senior judges were incompetent in their findings, this simply will not happen.

They can appeal. Senior judges are quite often found incorrect in their judgement on appeal (not neccesarily incompetent). 

 

The point is whether they have justifiable reason to appeal and whether that would be successful. 

 

With the drafting an issue, the PL would lose again immediately on plain and ordinary meaning argument. I think that argument would fall also given that the rules since the judgement have either gone through or its been agreed that a re-write/tweak (whatever they want to call it) is required. It will be based predominatly on the intentions of the parties at the time the rules were determined. That would be a difficult argument in itself as it would be for the PL to prove LCFC were intending for the rules to work in the way the PL intended. As someone else has said on this forum, I dont think we were party to the decision making and we were certainly not party to drafting. 

 

For that reason, given the initial decision, an appeal will be weak at best. I would be surprised if the PL external counsel is not advising the same. I think the PL would proceed with an appeal to ensure the rules carry some weight (regardless of result) despite the current (quite significant) drafting issues. 

[Skidmark]

The most 'intelligent' thing to do now would be to spend money on players who will improve the squad now, but who can flourish in the Championship (should we go down) so we can then sell at high prices if we come back up.

 

That is the most intelligent thing. Buy players for 3m-5m, tie up some players who's contracts are due to expire.

 

But lets be realistic, we'll probably go out and spend another £25m on an English defensive midfielder named Oliver Tipp. 

[rugbyblue]

Just now, jv1 said:

that's a shocker- they should be embarrassed- credibility - if they had any is absolutely in the bin

They wont give a fck.  Like most "influencers", youtube channels and the like, they post for likes, attention and subscribers.........

 

Please like this post

[Aleksz]

 Interesting. 

[Bilo]

This instantly makes us more attractive to prospective signings as well. 

 

Win tomorrow night, with Wolves and Everton embroiled in some horrible fixtures, and we're likely out of the relegation zone with little to no prospect of a points deduction to put us back in it.

[Ric Flair]

PSR I Love You the sequal in cinemas from 14.01.2025

 

A romcom set on an industrial estate in the midlands, UK. Ed Harris stars as Jon Rudkin.

[Bilo]

Just now, Aleksz said:

 Interesting. 

So go for it now and try to get the Hermansen sale done before June 30th? 

[jv1]

3 minutes ago, rugbyblue said:

They wont give a fck.  Like most "influencers", youtube channels and the like, they post for likes, attention and subscribers.........

 

Please like this post

if I had liked or subscribed to them id be undoing both

[Bilo]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

PSR I Love You the sequal in cinemas from 14.01.2025

 

A romcom set on an industrial estate in the midlands, UK. Ed Harris stars as Jon Rudkin.

More like Lee Evans.

[filbertway]

Love that football is at the stage where fan's are creaming themselves at the possibility that the club can incur further debt in the tens of millions

 

 

[The Doctor]

1 minute ago, Bilo said:

So go for it now and try to get the Hermansen sale done before June 30th? 

that would make sense. like much as we spunked budget on Skipp and Okoli in the summer, the five year contracts for each mean it's only 7m of psr headroom taken per year for the two of them combined.

[Daggers]

3 minutes ago, jv1 said:

that's a shocker- they should be embarrassed- credibility - if they had any is absolutely in the bin

Tbf, almost no one emerges from this with their credibility intact - including everyone who wanted to posit an opinion on the back of something they’d heard, seen online or read. 
 

It could be taken as a universal lesson in shutting the fvck up, but somehow I doubt it will change how anyone behaves in an age where clicks equal cash and every cvnt wants to be seen as intelligent and informed. This isn’t directed just at BTS but to absolutely everyone from the self proclaimed accountancy experts through to the barrack room lawyers and social media users.  

[Corky]

6 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Love that football is at the stage where fan's are creaming themselves at the possibility that the club can incur further debt in the tens of millions

 

 

Yes, the natural reaction to this would be to lose even more eye-watering amounts of money.

 

This has to bring real change within the club. We need a different, more measured approach.

[coolhandfox]

5 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

They can appeal. Senior judges are quite often found incorrect in their judgement on appeal (not neccesarily incompetent). 

 

The point is whether they have justifiable reason to appeal and whether that would be successful. 

 

With the drafting an issue, the PL would lose again immediately on plain and ordinary meaning argument. I think that argument would fall also given that the rules since the judgement have either gone through or its been agreed that a re-write/tweak (whatever they want to call it) is required. It will be based predominatly on the intentions of the parties at the time the rules were determined. That would be a difficult argument in itself as it would be for the PL to prove LCFC were intending for the rules to work in the way the PL intended. As someone else has said on this forum, I dont think we were party to the decision making and we were certainly not party to drafting. 

 

For that reason, given the initial decision, an appeal will be weak at best. I would be surprised if the PL external counsel is not advising the same. I think the PL would proceed with an appeal to ensure the rules carry some weight (regardless of result) despite the current (quite significant) drafting issues. 

You normally cannot appeal a decision just because you think the judge ‘got it wrong’.

 

It is generally if you can prove a serious mistake happened or because the procedure was not followed properly.

 

I think both of those are highly unlikely. 

[phoneticerror]

Simon Jordan is crying about us again 😂😂😂

[Jon the Hat]

1 hour ago, 87fox said:

I read it like that too.

Almost like once the 22/23 jurisdiction appeal has been heard, the PL reserves the right to charge us for 23/24

No, they cannot charge us for last year after today 

[Mickyblueeyes]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

You normally cannot appeal a decision just because you think the judge ‘got it wrong’.

 

It is generally if you can prove a serious mistake happened or because the procedure was not followed properly.

 

I think both of those are highly unlikely. 

That is exactly what they will argue. 

 

As I said, I dont fancy their chances. 

 

 

[Lako42]

Can't wait for us to restart the cycle and go out and spunk huge wads on the next Faes, Daka and Ward. 

Edited 14 January by Lako42

[coolhandfox]

Just now, Mickyblueeyes said:

That is exactly what they will argue. 

 

As I said, I dont fancy their chances. 

No chance.

[Lcfcwigstonblue]

On Talksport now discussing it.

[The Doctor]

4 minutes ago, Corky said:

Yes, the natural reaction to this would be to lose even more eye-watering amounts of money.

 

This has to bring real change within the club. We need a different, more measured approach.

it's the nature of football tbh, unless you implement a serious salary cap and a huge redistribution of TV and sponsorship money, clubs will inevitably lose money and rely on having a moneyman behind them to bail them out

[EnderbyFox]

13 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

 Interesting.