Ruud out - has to go

[Buzzell]

41 minutes ago, LFEFox23 said:

That fact he hadn't worked out in a month of managing us that Danny Ward was completely dogmuck was a red flag straightaway for me!

 

I agree the squad is poor, but let’s not act like he didn’t know what he was walking into. 

I agree with Ward. He should of been out the door a long time ago.

[splinterdream]

2 minutes ago, J. James said:

You can bet your bottom dollar it's not, a group of players that succeed in undermining a manager because they think they are too good for his tactics then prove conclusively that they are not, and take no responsibility for their shameful half hearted performances.

Any group will know who the passengers and rabble rousers are and there will be discontent from the rest, let alone the management failings at all levels.

 

The owners and players are making football fans very happy - just not Leicester city ones.

I agree, and Ruud hinted at some players today not pulling their weight, which is why you can't blame Ruud, this job had to be the toughest job in football, it'd be a miracle if he kept us up, I don't know why somne can't see that

[Buzzell]

22 minutes ago, Whys it always me said:

Hold on for 20 minutes in that game we were far away the better side and should have been out of sight. Palace manager makes a tactical tweak knowing we were destroying them and all of a sudden we were then shite. What do our manger do to respond……absolutely **** all. RVN is clueless what him on the sidelines it’s desperate stuff. 
 

Stop defending him he’s lost 7 on the spin and got a grand total of 4 points since he started with us. Cooper was absolutely awful but did better with what we have. I’m not saying we have a decent squad we are absolutely shit,  but do I think a half decent manager could have produced better results than RVN…..yep,100%. 
 

Rudkin and the board are equally culpable for this shit show but let’s not forget the head of recruitment who seems to be getting off Scot free. Martyn glover has been a shit show other than a few players he’s mostly found us shite players. 

We were the better side but couldn’t hit a barn door? Ruud might be shit or out of his depth but the squad is crap. You can’t polish a turd.

[splinterdream]

44 minutes ago, LFEFox23 said:

That fact he hadn't worked out in a month of managing us that Danny Ward was completely dogmuck was a red flag straightaway for me!

 

I agree the squad is poor, but let’s not act like he didn’t know what he was walking into. 

Maybe if he'd watched the games from 22/23, but Ward was number 2 when Ruud came in. Maybe Ward performs well in training. He gave Ward the chance and he blew it, but we have seen Ward have decent games, it's just likely he has no bottle

[Skidmark]

11 minutes ago, teblin said:

I actually think he wanted the job and was in the running when Puel was appointed.

My old mentor at work went school with him and said he was a right shithouse and laugh even back then. 

 

Kettering's finest. 

[Whys it always me]

1 minute ago, Buzzell said:

We were the better side but couldn’t hit a barn door? Ruud might be shit or out of his depth but the squad is crap. You can’t polish a turd.

For 20 minutes we were the better side and we didn’t take our chances. Then the palace manager made a tweak and we offered **** all really. That’s the difference between a half decent manager and a shit one. Let’s be clear palace were shit and were there for the taking but we ****ed it up. RVN subs in that game were also beyond a joke. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

5 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

Maybe if he'd watched the games from 22/23, but Ward was number 2 when Ruud came in. Maybe Ward performs well in training. He gave Ward the chance and he blew it, but we have seen Ward have decent games, it's just likely he has no bottle

But RvN doesn't have his own back room staff in yet, he has coaches here who surely know Ward is a poor 'keeper

[Corky]

The selection of Ayew and the substitution of El Khanouss were very odd. If he goes then he goes but this squad is hideous. We should be on about 7 points given our displays.

[Heathrow fox]

5 hours ago, kingfox said:

Don’t feel like criticising him too much because he’s inherited a poor squad.

 

But his substitutions are really starting to piss me off. 

 

3 hours ago, dooflip said:

Feel for Ruud a bit in that he’s inherited a basket case of a club - what a mess.

 

Today however, was bizarre. Very strange decisions.

 

Dont really see what a change in manager would do at this point though.

No money to spend, worst squad in the league, none of the players care, and we are lacking quality everywhere.

 

No manager who could make a difference takes this job.

I would be very suspicious of anyone who wanted the job at this stage.Really can’t think of a more timidly fought relegation battle in at least half a century.

[splinterdream]

4 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

But RvN doesn't have his own back room staff in yet, he has coaches here who surely know Ward is a poor 'keeper

agreed, someone should have warned Ruud perhaps, although it was Stowell who was with us 22/23, and he's no longer at the club

[splinterdream]

5 minutes ago, Corky said:

The selection of Ayew and the substitution of El Khanouss were very odd. If he goes then he goes but this squad is hideous. We should be on about 7 points given our displays.

how many assists and goals has Ayew had compared to Facundo? Starting Facundo didn't get us anywhere against Palace

[Bezzanator89]

5 hours ago, Tommy G said:

8 - Peter Taylor

9 if you include all competitions...

 

It's sad that we are even having this discussion.

[fazzyfox]

His belief that MacAteer and Mavididi were better wide options and would offer better service than Bilal in the last third of the game is something I’d confront him with along with the repeated mistake of starting Ayew and expecting him to affect a game from the start against opposition who aren’t knackered yet. As for Ward  vs Wolves, I can only think that was for a bet with money going to Comic Relief.

[sm1]

Ruud doesn't seem to watch us and learn. Winks and Soumare doesn't work, we need a destroyer like Ndidi. Without him, only Hamza fits the bill. I know most regard him as a non player, but alot said the same thing about Ndidi, and now look at us without him. We need to try Bilal at LW instead of Mavs, with Facundo at CAM. Try different things to solve a problem. Pushing JJ up as a RW hasn't worked all season, yet both Cooper and Ruud insist on playing that way. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

[Winstonthedog]

Just look at the club ....top to bottom..inept .. incompetent a total f**k up from all positions... RIP  ... Leicester City Fc 

[jimsmallman]

Asked why he took off El Khannouss, Van Nistelrooy replied: "Because the crowd [does not] want a substitution, it doesn't mean I have to explain all the reasons behind the substitution. It's not for the public, out of respect for the players to come on, because they are valuable members of the squad, and they deserve minutes to help this team as well. It's not about one person in this team, in this squad."

 

Aaah. So he can’t explain it because he doesn’t know why he did it. 
 

Wanted to like him but he’s making Cooper look  like Shankly, Fergie and prime Mourinho combined. 

[Thebluefox85]

A few players need sacking before Ruud they have really let him down over the last few weeks 

Edited 18 January by Thebluefox85

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, jimsmallman said:

Asked why he took off El Khannouss, Van Nistelrooy replied: "Because the crowd [does not] want a substitution, it doesn't mean I have to explain all the reasons behind the substitution. It's not for the public, out of respect for the players to come on, because they are valuable members of the squad, and they deserve minutes to help this team as well. It's not about one person in this team, in this squad."

 

Aaah. So he can’t explain it because he doesn’t know why he did it. 
 

Wanted to like him but he’s making Cooper look  like Shankly, Fergie and prime Mourinho combined. 

Also subbing Winks for Skipp shouldn't even be counted as one of your 5 available subs. One inconsequential player for another 

[tickler28]

Am I right in thinking that Ruud needs 6 points from the next 3 matches to match Coopers record for the first 12 matches?

[em9999]

25 minutes ago, jimsmallman said:

Asked why he took off El Khannouss, Van Nistelrooy replied: "Because the crowd [does not] want a substitution, it doesn't mean I have to explain all the reasons behind the substitution. It's not for the public, out of respect for the players to come on, because they are valuable members of the squad, and they deserve minutes to help this team as well. It's not about one person in this team, in this squad."

 

Aaah. So he can’t explain it because he doesn’t know why he did it. 
 

Wanted to like him but he’s making Cooper look  like Shankly, Fergie and prime Mourinho combined. 

When we see the manager do something so brain dead after paying scandalous prices for tickets and crap food .. too damn right he should explain his stupidity... he will be gone we will have to suffer with the consequences 💔  not him 

Edited 18 January by em9999

[Corky]

5 hours ago, Ricey said:

TalkSport saying that we were all chanting for Ruud to be sacked and making a huge deal out of it, whilst not once mentioning all the sack the board and Rudkin out chants.

There wasn't one chant calling for him to be sacked, just the anger after the BEK sub.

 

I know whoppers like Alex Crook will run with it, though. The media seem personally offended if we ever dare criticise our club.

[Dmitry]

2 hours ago, J. James said:

Oh, don't get me wrong (as lots do) l dont think Cooper was anything but crap, but maybe just maybe he saw that our squad was crapper (when lots on here were touting mid table), and realised he had to play the way he did because of the limitations.

The fact that our talentless players were actively working against him is l think unforgivable and their only defence would have been an immediate improvement in performances, this has clearly not happened and l can only see them as snakes I'm afraid.

 

I was hoping for a more ambitious appointment and was dismayed when Cooper was announced.

But his remit was keep us out of the relegation zone and he did by whatever means  - luck?

The great Gary Player was called lucky "yep" he said " and the more I practice the luckier l get "

So, l found his sacking at that particular time puzzling, but all was explained when it was explained that our owner had a serious crush on handsome though unproven, untested Ruud.

 

I also really hate bullying, victimisation and double standards all of which has been in evidence recently in only now placing the blame on the real culprits when frankly its been them all along.

 

It's often said that a man is only three bad decisions away from living on the street, in business the street is bankruptcy and our owner has made catastrophically bad decisions- Rodgers - too late, Cooper - wrong man, Van Nistelrooy - appointed on a whim.

 

The next few weeks will define this club for years if not decades to come.

 

Well-said! 

I do believe that the real culpability lays with the current Chairman. His thought process is baffling. Perhaps he is just a poor businessman, for whatever reasons.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

6 hours ago, Tielemans63 said:

Thought it was an odd appointment in the first place. I'm not sure it makes a difference who the manager is, if I'm honest. The club is run like a Vanarama conference outfit.

This is not far off when you consider in the Tanner propaganda on Rudkin he mentioned he first came to the club as a volunteer. If he ever made anyone a cup of tea while he was volunteering then he should be nicknamed the ‘tea boy’.
 

The fact he came and asked whether he could help out with coaching the youth team might be celebrated. And it would be a cute tale if we weren’t supposed to a serious PL outfit. It’s the sort of story you’d expect to hear when the BBC do a feature on a non league team who are playing a high profile side.

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, jimsmallman said:

Asked why he took off El Khannouss, Van Nistelrooy replied: "Because the crowd [does not] want a substitution, it doesn't mean I have to explain all the reasons behind the substitution. It's not for the public, out of respect for the players to come on, because they are valuable members of the squad, and they deserve minutes to help this team as well. It's not about one person in this team, in this squad."

 

Aaah. So he can’t explain it because he doesn’t know why he did it. 
 

Wanted to like him but he’s making Cooper look  like Shankly, Fergie and prime Mourinho combined. 

One of the major reasons I was quite keen to have him was how he managed our game against his United team in that 3-0. We were causing them a lot of problems with Fatawu and he switched it up during the game to completely nulify the threat and went on to win handsomely.

 

He's shown none of that here. His substitutions have been atrocious and **** knows what he tells them at half time because we have been frightening in the 10-15 minutes after half time in pretty much every game.

 

 

I think he has to go. I don't think he can manage this squad.

 

Not really sure who can to be honest.

[Philkeavo]

17 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Not really sure who can to be honest.

This.