LCFC 0-2 Fulham, post match thread

[Product of 84]

1 minute ago, Greg2607 said:

The second goal was on mavididi. Absolutely zero effort to get to Traore when kristianson had to come inside to pick up an attacker.  He was practically walking back.  it's that kind of lapse attitude that sees us go down. Every single player, needs a willingness to fight for every second of the game, be switched on, do the basics first

 

I don't disagree.

[Tom12345]

1 minute ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

A quick glance at @Tom12345's post from October suggests he wasn't quite the pro-Cooper flag waver he's made himself out to be there

No, you are right, I wasn’t pro-Cooper too (I was though asking for more time for Cooper to let him sort things out though). Perhaps a bit overdone with my comment, which I admit, as I am a bit drunk in my disappointment at losing 7 in a row …

 

Dont get me wrong though, I am not asking for change now to RVN. I think we just need stability there and we need to keep supporting them.

[oxtonfox]

I’m fed up of feeling livid now when we play. There’s bare minimal effort but absolutely zero fight especially when we go behind. 

Look at us, a big city and decent sized club being made fools of by likes of Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham….

[Bert]

Shambles. Piss poor. No effort, heart or desire. Keeper had no save to make. Players didn’t look arsed. It know what they were doing. Don’t even look like scoring goals anymore. 

[Tommy Fresh]

2 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

I'll bite and play devil's advocate. We got 10 points and actually looked like a squad with fight and some sort of organisation if not a lot else. We've none of that now. We were lucky against West ham and Brighton to get the 4 points, let's be honest. It could be 0 points under RvN.

 

 

We didn't look like we had fight did we, unless fight counts as losing a 2 goal lead at Palace etc

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

Just now, Tommy Fresh said:

We didn't look like we had fight did we, unless fight counts as losing a 2 goal lead at Palace etc

Southampton? 

[Iwebema]

13 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

Before RVN, we looked like a good mid table side not winning as much as we should have (individual mistakes costed us quite a few points). But fans, whom I blame now, wanted Cooper gone, and encouraged a toxic atmosphere. With FFP, we had to be careful what we wished for. 

 

When we were around 16, I thought we can do better hence I admit to having some frustration in my mind.

 

But now we just look like a clueless Championship side.

 

 

We were terrible, terrible with him, terrible under ruud. 

 

I dont really get the obsession with cooper, he was awful, just because ruud is worse doesn't mean cooper was good we were still heading the same way.

 

For what it's worth, the fans did not get Cooper sacked, I know it's loud in here but foxestalk has little to no influence on the operations of Leicester. He got sacked because the players hated him, they actively complained to Rudkin and Top about him. Not saying that a good thing, but we don't have that much power 👍

 

People need to stop pining for a terrible manager because the new one is worse, you don't leave one bad relationship, get into another bad one and pine after the previous one, neither were up to the task and the issue is above them.

[Tommy Fresh]

2 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Southampton? 

Oh you mean the side on course to beat Derbys record  also you said Ruud was lucky against Brighton and it could be zero points but use us having to come from 2-0  down to potentially the worst top flight side in the modern era to back up Cooper.

Ruud does look shit by the way, but sacking Cooper was still the correct decision, they just appointed another dud

Edited 18 January by Tommy Fresh

[The Doctor]

2 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

I'll bite and play devil's advocate. We got 10 points and actually looked like a squad with fight and some sort of organisation if not a lot else. We've none of that now. We were lucky against West Ham and Brighton to get the 4 points, let's be honest. It could have been be 0 points under RvN. He's clueless. 

 

 

we really didn't though, those points we got, we could and should have lost at Ipswich and Southampton, barely laid a glove on Everton and had a backs to the wall job v Bournemouth. You can say we got lucky with Ruuds 4 points but none of the points we got under Cooper we really deserved. we didn't have organisation or a tactical plan. yes, RvN looks out of his depth but Cooper also looked miles out of his depth, noone can watch how we played under him and think we looked organised and hard to beat

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

Just now, Tommy Fresh said:

Oh you mean the side on course to beat Derbys record  also you said Ruud was lucky against Brighton and it could be zero points but use us having to come from 2-0  down to potentially the worst top flight side in the modern era to back up Cooper

We showed fight to win 2 1 at the death. That answered your question not what you're arguing now. Anyway, I think the managerial appointments are poor. RvN as well as Cooper. Only went for RvN as a name. He's clueless. 

[gerrytaggart]

I dont think I care anymore.   

 

Just like most of the players and staff.

[Pita]

We are dreadful championships here we come. The management have sold us down the river. 

[burleighfox]

28 minutes ago, Posthorn54 said:

Faes comes off smiling. Absolute doesn’t care less 

Epitome of the modern footballer. Get him gone too.

[lcfcbluearmy]

26 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Many boos at the end ?

Don't think there was anyone left to boo

[Winstonthedog]

Top .. Rudkin and Whelan are so out of their depth they will try appoint or buy anyone and hope it pays off .... well it doesn't... a squad takes seasons to build to a point you can lose a star player but have a good player to take its place ... we had that and the afore mentioned names have now fuc**d that up .....  

[Spudulike]

It's the predictability that's so frustrating. Everybody called it, stay focused, massive effort for the first 10-15 mins and work into the game. To concede within 2 mins is criminal to such a goal that should've been defended easily. These are professional footballers that haven't got a shred of accountability for their actions. The club needs to come clean and apologise to those that paid a lot of money to support the team. It's the least they deserve.

 

[desertfox2]

1 minute ago, gerrytaggart said:

I dont think I care anymore.   

 

Just like most of the players and staff.

That's the worst part. The enjoyment has just been completely sucked out of it. I've never felt like this before but it's as if I can't be bothered to watch us anymore. I never thought it would be possible. 

[HankMarvin]

20 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

What do these people do in training every day? There is zero cohesion. Complete s**t-show.

Get taught the RVN philosophy by his coaches, oh wait he only has about 1

[Spudulike]

7 defeats on the spin now. What's our record?

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Sack the Manager he is inept 

 

don't play most of the senior players again this season and put them on transfer list

 

play some promising youngsters 

[Ian Nacho]

Never fails to amaze me when people applaud that dross at FT. 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

3 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

It just gets worse. I genuinely don’t think we have a single premier league quality player in the squad today.

Not one of them will play in the Premier League again after this season.

From top to bottom is bloody awful and nothing is going to change for a long time.

I disagree.

 

I think the group that got us up were done a massive disservice by Cooper by his constant deriding of their ability to step up to the level of competition this season from the get go.

 

I know the players themselves haven’t done much to dispel that idea themselves - but there is an argument to say that successive managers have failed to provide a suitable platform for them to do so through tactical choices and selections.

 

Fulham weren’t great today - they rather trundled to an inevitable win because at hardly any point did we play with any belief we could win.

 

You could tell the players lacked confidence and were second guessing decisions.

 

And that’s what’s really annoying for me from today and previous weeks.

 

You don’t install confidence in a team that’s been struggling to score and keep goals out by sitting in a passive low block at home for the first 45 minutes.

 

You have to send the team out in an aggressive fashion - that’s not to say all out attack - but in a way that will create situations where players are running hard, making tough tackles, battling for second balls and playing for territory gains - the sort of in game actions that 1.) builds momentum and confidence; and 2.) doesn’t allow for over thinking.

 

Instead, we had Vardy’s average first half position being 20 yards behind the halfway line. 
 

That’s not going to work is it, even if the other 10 players alongside him are the best the Premier League had to offer.

[Foxmeister]

3 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

7 defeats on the spin now. What's our record?

8

[Bert]

Shambles. And that’s being generous. Town players score that have been dreadful all season and barely managed to kick the top off a rice pudding, but turn up against us. 
 

Very little in the way of effort, ideas, heart, desire, will to win, passion. Keeper not even tested. I would even say the worst we’ve performed all season. Baffling subs once more. End the season because this is a waste of 4/5 hours every weekend. 

[Spudulike]

1 minute ago, Foxmeister said:

8

There's going to be a new record then. This must be the worst, badly managed Premier League team we've ever had. Depressing, and it didn't need to be.