The future of priority schemes invite

[Izzy]

At least increase the away ballot from 5%

 

More chance of winning the lottery

[lcfcbluearmy]

13 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

the boost that season tickets have is exactly why you can't start going to away games though. Let's say you were a member last season, did all 23 away league games, plus Bournemouth and Tranmere. You get a season ticket this year and a season ticket holder from last year who didn't go to a single away game still gets 25 points further ahead of you. 

That's a fair point didn't think of it like that

[SemperEadem]

Bin the 50 renewal points for a start.

[goose2010]

1 hour ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

This will be a controversial opinion however I think having a season ticket for a long period should count for more priority points.

 

I have had a season ticket for around 20 years and been to very few away games due to the fact that my family who I go with don't really have the time to travel to them and growing up obviously couldn't go on my own.

 

I'm now in a position where I am old enough and financially secure enough and have enough free time to go to them but because they only take the last three years into account away tickets are 95 % of the time sold out before I can buy them.

 

It just makes it next to impossible for people to start going to away games

It doesn't. Enough games this season and last went to all season ticket holders. 

[dmayne7]

Never going to find a solution that is fair to all and allows us to get new fans in. Personally think ST holders should always get priority but they should massively increase the ballot percentage for members, and members who attend away games should get vastly more priority points than they do for each game. Logistically impossible for some people to have ever had a season ticket (me) but do try to get to away games which has become impossible recently. ST is the big commitment but even going to 1 away game is generally speaking, a much bigger effort than it is for most people to go to 5 home games.

 

The club is amazing at pissing off ST, Members and General sale fans. So they have found something they're actually good at 

[Bert]

3 hours ago, ealingfox said:

Scrap the huge chunks awarded for renewing season tickets - away priority points should be for attending away games.

 

Build up should be over a maximum of 5 seasons

 

Schedule multiple higher priority windows across the same day ie 8am and 2pm like has been done with the lower brackets 

 

Oh and also ban outright all under 16s and over 75s from all away games, mandatory dress code of no colours allowed and camera monitoring at all away games - anyone caught not singing banned for life.

 

Simples.

Great way to get a younger generation into supporting the club. 

[Bert]

2 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

This will be a controversial opinion however I think having a season ticket for a long period should count for more priority points.

 

I have had a season ticket for around 20 years and been to very few away games due to the fact that my family who I go with don't really have the time to travel to them and growing up obviously couldn't go on my own.

 

I'm now in a position where I am old enough and financially secure enough and have enough free time to go to them but because they only take the last three years into account away tickets are 95 % of the time sold out before I can buy them.

 

It just makes it next to impossible for people to start going to away games

I disagree. Massively. The away priority scheme should be centred on rewarding those who attend away games. Just as an example, you’ve not been an away game or very few for say 10 years but because you’ve had a season ticket for double that you should get priority over people who have spent hundreds of pounds every other week? Nah. 
 

Also, away priority points have remained on people’s accounts for 10 years now. 
 

For me I think it should be capped at a 3-4 year cycle. And after that cycle everyone starts again at square one. Chances are in the near future they’ll become very easily accessible anyway and to be fair they have been this season. 
 

The biggest problem is that the club want control over everything and anything so it’ll be done exactly how they want to do it as well as the people that will moan (coach 1 and they’re the ones the club don’t want to upset) that they’ve been consistently for years and and years that they’re now not going to have first dibs like they have done for years. But in that case I would just argue that they should join the away priority scheme.  

Edited 22 January by Bert

[lcfcbluearmy]

Just now, Bert said:

I disagree. Massively. The away priority scheme should be centred on rewarding those who attend away games. Just as an example, you’ve not been an away game or very few for say 10 years but because you’ve had a season ticket for double that you should get priority over people who have spent hundreds of pounds every other week? Nah. 
 

Also, away priority points have remained on people’s accounts for 10 years now. 
 

For me I think it should be capped at a 3-4 year cycle. And after that cycle everyone starts again at square one. Chances are in the near future they’ll become very easily accessible anyway and to be fair they have been this season. 
 

The biggest problem is that the club want control over everything and anything so it’ll be done exactly how they want to do it as well as the people that will main (coach 1 and they’re the ones the club don’t want to upset) that they’ve been consistently for years and and years that they’re now not going to have first dibs like they have done for years. But in that case I would just argue that they should join the away priority scheme.  

I did say it would be controversial and I'm not actually convinced what I said was right.

 

I freely admit as I said not been to many away games in the past maybe 5 over the last 5 years

 

This came from a point of frustration of wanting to start going to more and the ones I've looked at selling out before I've had a chance to buy them 

 

However I do agree that people that go to away games the most should clearly be given priority

[The boy Linacre]

I’ve been on both sides of the fence here as I became an STH in 15/16.  And a member the season before.

So it took me a number of seasons to bridge the 50pt Home ST benefit & I missed the Cup final as a result, where I’d been to 20-30 away games BUT still had less than somebody who had ONLY been to home games & the 1st Community Shield.  So it shows how it skewed to Home STH renewer.

These are priority for AWAY games, so if you do actually get to an Away game make it more valuable, than home, more cost, more effort etc.  So each A game should be worth let’s say 3pts each or even 4, so they are more valuable than home points, or reduce the home points, that aren’t even an away reward.

 

But it is a very contentious topic.

But you have to do the hard yards, Millwall & Everton, Bournemouth, Preston, Liverpool, midweek, BristolC, Plymouth, Rome, Eindhoven etc.

As @The Doctor says above.  Ditch the home benefit or even them up or reduce its benefit, I’ve now been to about 60 Aways now and am into the 3rd category, but I have still never been to Brentford and would have to go to almost more than every away this season to move up an A group & I can’t.  @FOXSE has some good suggestions too.

 

[Bert]

18 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

I did say it would be controversial and I'm not actually convinced what I said was right.

 

I freely admit as I said not been to many away games in the past maybe 5 over the last 5 years

 

This came from a point of frustration of wanting to start going to more and the ones I've looked at selling out before I've had a chance to buy them 

 

However I do agree that people that go to away games the most should clearly be given priority

I can almost guarantee bar Bournemouth that any STH that wants a ticket for every remaining away (that’s not already sold out) will be able to get one. 

[RonnieTodger]

5-10pts for season ticket, not 50.

 

3 year rolling period of points counting. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

3 minutes ago, Bert said:

I can almost guarantee bar Bournemouth that any STH that wants a ticket for every remaining away (that’s not already sold out) will be able to get one. 

Not sure Wolves or Forest go to all STHs.

 

Higher chance if we're playing as crap as this in 9 weeks time though.

[Bert]

3 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

We should look at what other clubs are doing. Forest villa Leeds derby etc have completely demographics to ours and it doesn’t really make sense. Although I heard a rumour the club reserve seats for certain fans which wouldn’t surprise me. 

Oh they absolutely do. It’s mostly front row seats for those that want to sit down. When I got my Spurs tickets they were all gone. And that was me having first dibs at 8am. 

[Bert]

Just now, Leicester_Loyal said:

Not sure Wolves or Forest go to all STHs.

 

Higher chance if we're playing as crap as this in 9 weeks time though.

Wolves will. Fair point about Forest though. 

[lcfcbluearmy]

1 hour ago, Bert said:

I can almost guarantee bar Bournemouth that any STH that wants a ticket for every remaining away (that’s not already sold out) will be able to get one. 

That's nice to know and will try more this season, I have not looked recently to be fair due to being disappointed in the past

[Lako42]

Open it up for a free for all and start only awarding points for away attendance. 

 

 

Of course it doesn't really matter as they have started doing this at exactly the moment we don't need it. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

11 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Bin the 50 renewal points for a start.

That's all it needs. That and cut the tally down to 3 or 4 years tops. Done.

[hackneyfox]

12 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

This will be a controversial opinion however I think having a season ticket for a long period should count for more priority points.

 

I have had a season ticket for around 20 years and been to very few away games due to the fact that my family who I go with don't really have the time to travel to them and growing up obviously couldn't go on my own.

 

I'm now in a position where I am old enough and financially secure enough and have enough free time to go to them but because they only take the last three years into account away tickets are 95 % of the time sold out before I can buy them.

 

It just makes it next to impossible for people to start going to away games

I'm confused, don't they take something like the last ten years into account?

[lcfcbluearmy]

4 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

I'm confused, don't they take something like the last ten years into account?

They used to changed it a couple of seasons back

[grobyfox1990]

 

10 hours ago, Bert said:

I disagree. Massively. The away priority scheme should be centred on rewarding those who attend away games. Just as an example, you’ve not been an away game or very few for say 10 years but because you’ve had a season ticket for double that you should get priority over people who have spent hundreds of pounds every other week? Nah. 
 

Also, away priority points have remained on people’s accounts for 10 years now. 
 

For me I think it should be capped at a 3-4 year cycle. And after that cycle everyone starts again at square one. Chances are in the near future they’ll become very easily accessible anyway and to be fair they have been this season. 
 

The biggest problem is that the club want control over everything and anything so it’ll be done exactly how they want to do it as well as the people that will moan (coach 1 and they’re the ones the club don’t want to upset) that they’ve been consistently for years and and years that they’re now not going to have first dibs like they have done for years. But in that case I would just argue that they should join the away priority scheme.  

Yeh, STH should be the minimum bar to clear to get away tickets, then priority starts with how many away games you attended last season, reset every summer. So top priority is STH with 23 away games in 23/24 etc etc.

[grobyfox1990]

Pre premier league priority seems like an age ago. Used to go in to the store with your away match ticket stubs from the past season for them to log. I remember dropping my West ham ticket from October 2011 in the urinals at Upton park, soaked in p1ss, but fished it out for this purpose

[Gamble92]

12 hours ago, Izzy said:

At least increase the away ballot from 5%

 

More chance of winning the lottery

Might do the Euro millions on Friday then

[Bert]

11 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Pre premier league priority seems like an age ago. Used to go in to the store with your away match ticket stubs from the past season for them to log. I remember dropping my West ham ticket from October 2011 in the urinals at Upton park, soaked in p1ss, but fished it out for this purpose

Then they caught wind people were fuddling that. You only had to show them. Some people kept them for memorabilia but passed them to their mates to show. 

[Stuntman_Mike]

I really don't see the point of doing this now, it should've been updated years ago.

 

It's not likely we'll need it over the next few years anyway if things carry on as they are. I can't see the novelty of the Championship being the same next season.

[grobyfox1990]

31 minutes ago, Bert said:

Then they caught wind people were fuddling that. You only had to show them. Some people kept them for memorabilia but passed them to their mates to show. 

Yep, three of us did this one year, went in one after the other (with a 15 min break between each) with the same stubs to log priority. Remember Chelsea away in the league cup halloween 2007 was a prized stub