Spurs 1 - 2 LCFC (A) Full Time Thread

[luthersfarm]

8 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

A fantastic win but yet again Justin at fault for their goal 

I dunno why people are always so desperate to blame individuals for goals conceded. You could say VK and BDCR didn't press enough down the left side and it was too easy, VK didn't close down the cross, Faes was on Richarlison and lost him. Justin has a man at the back post. It's rarely just one players fault and of those named above he's the least at fault.

[MrsJohnMurphy]

8 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

A fantastic win but yet again Justin at fault for their goal 

No he wasn't

[Jattdogg]

2 hours ago, Wsl said:

Don’t care what they say at work - you wear those PJs til April!

Thank fook i work from home. Not sure what I am going to tell the dentist on Tuesday for my appointment

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Just now, tinpot_fox said:

I agree with this and it proper winds me when managers (specifically international level), ignore in form players and go for there out of form favourites 

Ok, but this is where I think fans get things wrong on International football.

 

Form should get you noticed, but shouldn’t mean you play - because ultimately you have to build a side of players that fit together.

 

If you simply go for form players you can end up trying to force combinations that just don’t work - say trying to play Foden and Bellingham together as double 10’s for example? 

 

So it’s perhaps not about managers having favourites so to speak, but having players that specifically fit what they want to do style wise.

 

Take Heskey for example - he got as many England caps as he did because he was effective in a role with Owen more than anyone else, despite there being plenty of more inform strikers around at the time.

 

The other thing with form is, it can come and go - yet we all know from experience of football that the better sides tend to be the ones that are more settled, that have been given time to develop their relationships in training and on the pitch together.

 

So chopping and changing players based on form at international level - where managers have even less time to build relationships off the pitch - is probably not the best idea and why there will be ‘mainstay’ players that will tend to form the backbone of an international side over a 2 year cycle regardless of form (i.e. Harry Kane, John Stones, Jordan Pickford).

 

Finally - I think the other thing that is crucially missed about squad selection at international level are players qualities behind the scenes.

 

I bet you Jordan Henderson was an absolute beast of player in terms of helping to create the right atmosphere and togetherness within a squad - a very important aspect if you consider international squads at tournaments will spend weeks living together - and that is why he was picked continuously over other players that might be deemed higher quality in ability terms of have been showing better form.

[jv1]

Absolute pony but who gives a monkeys when you win right ? What we saying ? I’m saying we were absolutely rubbish but got 3 points and that’s the name of the game right ?? Meh not so sure. - happy obviously but thought we were still poo- and yes I was at the game - maybe a bit more fight but still - 3 points and the fight is back on ?

[King Claudio]

18 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

A fantastic win but yet again Justin at fault for their goal 

Radio implied it was mainly Faes but keeper could possibly have done better. 

[adam]

56 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

Funny as feck 

 

Unfortunately I got beaten to it by brighter people than me.

What a shower of pricks. Especially the first one. 'Blud'

[adam]

2 minutes ago, King Claudio said:

Radio implied it was mainly Faes but keeper could possibly have done better. 

Faes was at fault. It was his man

[Clogger_]

1 minute ago, adam said:

Faes was at fault. It was his man

Sometimes have to credit the attackers...

[goose2010]

Just now, Clogger_ said:

Sometimes have to credit the attackers...

Agreed, however we should never have allowed so much time for the cross 

[davieG]

Sutton's prediction: 4-1

[bovril]

6 minutes ago, adam said:

What a shower of pricks. Especially the first one. 'Blud'

I quite like the Korean girl. Someone better at these things than me needs to save "Vardy just drank red buuuullllll" and use it as a goal reaction from here on in. 

[em9999]

7 minutes ago, adam said:

What a shower of pricks. Especially the first one. 'Blud'

Do any of them ever go to matches or are they just armchair critics 

[adejo92]

Yeah, Justin wasn't at fault for their goal, it was Faes.

 

Justin did look like a liability on a number of occasions though. Some decent bits, but turned far too easily too many times.

 

Good win, but still fortunate it was a horrendous spurs performance. 

[Daggers]

13 minutes ago, adam said:

What a shower of pricks. Especially the first one. 'Blud'

Why the fvck do people watch people watching things?

[FosseSpark]

2 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Why the fvck do people watch people watching things?

similar reason they talk to people about watching things.

Edited 26 January by FosseSpark

[Izzy]

8 minutes ago, em9999 said:

Do any of them ever go to matches or are they just armchair critics 

You could say the same for about 90% of FoxesTalk 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

12 minutes ago, FoxFossil said:

Wout Faes I thought was at fault?!

Even that’s harsh.

 

Yes he was marking Richarlson, but there’s only so much you can cover as a defender and he really didn’t have a chance to do anything to prevent the goal given the quality of the cross.

 

If you look anywhere for faults with the goal, it would have to be the amount of time and space allowed to Pedro Porro - BUT - that was partly due to having players out of sink positionally briefly due to the previous passage of play (for example Soumare was sat at left back, with Kristensen tracking an inside midfield runner briefly before the goal) so I wouldn’t rush to call anyone out here - I think in this instance the goal was more about good play from Tottenham.

 

[kyleolly]

JJ is crap defensively but he looked good going forwards should play him off the bench as a midfielder in future 

[Daggers]

9 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

similar reason they talk to people about watching things.

Don't think it is. If you are having a conversation then that's enlightening or enriching as an experience - watching a twat scream and shout bludbludblud for 90 minutes is one-way brain deterioration.

[Bordersfox]

Calls on the Fighting Cock for Dyche. Mmmm drink that in.   

[FosseSpark]

Faes was ball watching, but there was also not enough pressure on the ball. which was a great ball from Porro. only reason people are annoyed is that it happens so often. 

i think its time for them to bring in these 1 or two defenders being talked about and make it competitive. 

If we can use the cannon and choudhury funds to bring in either an attacker or a proper dcm then we might have a chance of finishing 17th.

[Gazza M]

Could see McKenna walking on Ipswich for a chance at Spurs if the opportunity arose. 

[FosseSpark]

4 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Don't think it is. If you are having a conversation then that's enlightening or enriching as an experience - watching a twat scream and shout bludbludblud for 90 minutes is one-way brain deterioration.

i agree. but video chat and content where people talk about football is by any definition more popular than text chat and so people must find it more enriching/enlightening.

[Foxdiamond]

34 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

Ok, but this is where I think fans get things wrong on International football.

 

Form should get you noticed, but shouldn’t mean you play - because ultimately you have to build a side of players that fit together.

 

If you simply go for form players you can end up trying to force combinations that just don’t work - say trying to play Foden and Bellingham together as double 10’s for example? 

 

So it’s perhaps not about managers having favourites so to speak, but having players that specifically fit what they want to do style wise.

 

Take Heskey for example - he got as many England caps as he did because he was effective in a role with Owen more than anyone else, despite there being plenty of more inform strikers around at the time.

 

The other thing with form is, it can come and go - yet we all know from experience of football that the better sides tend to be the ones that are more settled, that have been given time to develop their relationships in training and on the pitch together.

 

So chopping and changing players based on form at international level - where managers have even less time to build relationships off the pitch - is probably not the best idea and why there will be ‘mainstay’ players that will tend to form the backbone of an international side over a 2 year cycle regardless of form (i.e. Harry Kane, John Stones, Jordan Pickford).

 

Finally - I think the other thing that is crucially missed about squad selection at international level are players qualities behind the scenes.

 

I bet you Jordan Henderson was an absolute beast of player in terms of helping to create the right atmosphere and togetherness within a squad - a very important aspect if you consider international squads at tournaments will spend weeks living together - and that is why he was picked continuously over other players that might be deemed higher quality in ability terms of have been showing better form.

Shame none of it translated to honours since Alf Ramsey.  Sometimes established players are picked when they have lot their edge. I remember Lineker should have been in the side before he got a proper look in. Thank goodness Alf picked Hurst and Peters in 66 despite only a few caps between them going in World Cup