Why are our fans the way they are?

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

I think he managed to find other ways to amuse himself in the city when things got hard.

I see what you did there …..😂

 

 

[Vestan Pance]

3 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

Agree with the obsession with “banter”. I get there’s not much to sing about currently, but there’s an obsession with the other team. 
 

Every away game we sing “football in a library” after about 2 minutes and spend more time trying to bait opposition fans than support our own side.

I was at a league one game last season where the response from the home end to that song was "you've never been to a library"😂

[bovril]

I think English football fans are often more interested in aesthetics - "limbs", cans on the train etc - than the actual fan culture. Also not to be too puritan but how much of a role does alcohol play? I feel like every game I go to there are more and more totally shitfaced fans that often can't string a single sentence together without problems. Like I like a few beers before the game but that amount of drinking isn't conducive to a great atmosphere and is obviously not something you see in that many other countries. 

[Sir Steve Howard]

18 minutes ago, bovril said:

I think English football fans are often more interested in aesthetics - "limbs", cans on the train etc - than the actual fan culture. Also not to be too puritan but how much of a role does alcohol play? I feel like every game I go to there are more and more totally shitfaced fans that often can't string a single sentence together without problems. Like I like a few beers before the game but that amount of drinking isn't conducive to a great atmosphere and is obviously not something you see in that many other countries. 

Au contraire mate, see Randers.

Personally I think the issue is people aren't drunk enough. Yes you've got handfuls who are off their face but so many stone cold miserable bastards about.

When the football is as shit as it currently is, have a few beers or 10

[bovril]

1 minute ago, Sir Steve Howard said:

Au contraire mate, see Randers.

Personally I think the issue is people aren't drunk enough. Yes you've got handfuls who are off their face but so many stone cold miserable bastards about.

When the football is as shit as it currently is, have a few beers or 10

Hmm, you might be right. Maybe those fans are slurring their words not because they're drunk....

[Dan]

6 hours ago, everton carr said:

Remember David Pleat saying when he was manager it was hard being a manager of a football club in a Rugby City

I mean it isn't a rugby city. Tigers I'd say almost certainly get a higher % of their crowd from outside Leicester City than we do.

[Spudulike]

46 minutes ago, Vestan Pance said:

I was at a league one game last season where the response from the home end to that song was "you've never been to a library"😂

Or 'You can't even read, you can't even reeeeaaad, you thick bastards, you can't even read '.

[iancognito]

Always find it incredible at awaydays that the same faces from the 90s are still largely there. Bus 1 on Fox Travel is pretty much the same as it was the day that Martin O'Neill rocked up at Filbert Street.

 

It's partly this that keeps us being sitters, keeps us slapping a clapper at home games and means the club could drop to the National League Northern Premier subdivision and people would still say King Power are great owners.

 

We have the same people in the same seats over decades. Even during the League One days it was hard introducing new fans and new blood to the experience because there's a solid block of 500 or so that have never given their tickets up and - as I understand it - have their seats reserved in our allocations because of their loyalty.

 

Until we get a reset from the club itself people will continue being sheep, the clappers will never be taken away, like kids in Primary School that still wear nappies or have dummies that never got toilet trained.

[Spudulike]

17 minutes ago, Dan said:

I mean it isn't a rugby city. Tigers I'd say almost certainly get a higher % of their crowd from outside Leicester City than we do.

Traditionally, LCFC fans come from the city (rough necks) whereas the Rugby posh boys from the county. That's what my old man and Grandad used to tell me.

 

My Dad used to hate it when the Tigers were at home the same Saturday afternoon as City as they kicked off early (no floodlights) and they clogged up the Cattle Market with their Range Rovers. Never liked Rugby (or rugby fans), ever.

[los dedos]

Nicked this off the Bentley roof Facebook page. This type of thing happened a few times in the 90s . I know quite of this  "type" of fan that can't afford or have got out of the habit of going these days . I'd expect they are the sort that would contribute to the atmosphere as well.

Edited 12 March by los dedos

[Lako42]

18 minutes ago, los dedos said:

Nicked this off the Bentley roof Facebook page. This type of thing happened a few times in the 90s . I know quite of this  "type" of fan that can't afford or have got out of the habit of going these days . I'd expect they are the sort that would contribute to the atmosphere as well.

Quite staggering how things have changed in this time 

[Nolucklcfc]

1 hour ago, iancognito said:

Always find it incredible at awaydays that the same faces from the 90s are still largely there. Bus 1 on Fox Travel is pretty much the same as it was the day that Martin O'Neill rocked up at Filbert Street.

 

It's partly this that keeps us being sitters, keeps us slapping a clapper at home games and means the club could drop to the National League Northern Premier subdivision and people would still say King Power are great owners.

 

We have the same people in the same seats over decades. Even during the League One days it was hard introducing new fans and new blood to the experience because there's a solid block of 500 or so that have never given their tickets up and - as I understand it - have their seats reserved in our allocations because of their loyalty.

 

Until we get a reset from the club itself people will continue being sheep, the clappers will never be taken away, like kids in Primary School that still wear nappies or have dummies that never got toilet trained.

But why is that different to other clubs? 

[Chris_OGrady]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Traditionally, LCFC fans come from the city (rough necks) whereas the Rugby posh boys from the county. That's what my old man and Grandad used to tell me.

 

My Dad used to hate it when the Tigers were at home the same Saturday afternoon as City as they kicked off early (no floodlights) and they clogged up the Cattle Market with their Range Rovers. Never liked Rugby (or rugby fans), ever.

I actually prefer going to the Tigers over City atm and I used to hate rugby. You can just turn up at the rugby in a big group and stand on a terrace. The atmosphere isn't a great deal worse than the football considering there's no atmosphere at that these days. You can watch home grown players on non ridiculous wages, and the club seems to be more entrenched and interested in the fans/local community than City. It's also slightly closer to town so better for boozing. 

[ChrisFilter]

I got given some tickets in the Chelsea home seats last weekend. Right near the Leicester fans. The Chelsea fans surrounding me were silent. Barely celebrated. The Leicester fans were loud throughout. I was really impressed. Brilliant support - especially under the circumstances. 
 

Sometimes it’s a matter of perspective. 
 

Even when we’re quiet and I’m sat in the expensive seats at the KP, there’s still plenty of singing. Not exactly the yellow wall, but a **** load better than the Chelsea fans. 
 

Same when I’ve sat in the Arsenal and Spurs ends against us too. 

[ChrisFilter]

34 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

But why is that different to other clubs? 

It’s not. That’s the reality. We just like to

moan on here. 

[murphy]

I resent this thread.  I'm a Leicester fan and I'm f***ing ace!

[Stuntman_Mike]

1 hour ago, iancognito said:

Always find it incredible at awaydays that the same faces from the 90s are still largely there. Bus 1 on Fox Travel is pretty much the same as it was the day that Martin O'Neill rocked up at Filbert Street.

 

It's partly this that keeps us being sitters, keeps us slapping a clapper at home games and means the club could drop to the National League Northern Premier subdivision and people would still say King Power are great owners.

 

We have the same people in the same seats over decades. Even during the League One days it was hard introducing new fans and new blood to the experience because there's a solid block of 500 or so that have never given their tickets up and - as I understand it - have their seats reserved in our allocations because of their loyalty.

 

Until we get a reset from the club itself people will continue being sheep, the clappers will never be taken away, like kids in Primary School that still wear nappies or have dummies that never got toilet trained.

Out of interest, will you stop going games when you get to the same sort of age that you consider people should give it up?

 

If anything, the younger fans who only care about getting the badge in and social media concourse videos are more of a problem than the older fans who are are continuing to follow their club. Older fans weren't a problem when the atmosphere were good, but the fans who should be helping make the signing section thrive have gone missing. 

[DJW1]

I´m writing this after just a quick look at the previous comments, so excuse any repitition.

The atmosphere at the KP depends a lot on where you sit. I`m usually in block H (quite good). I´ve also sat diagonally opposite, where there is virtually no atmosphere. I imagine that safe standing, on the Kop, would improve the atmosphere

I don´t like it when our fans taunt the away fans after a goal, rather than celebrating.

When we won the league I never used a clapper, so that turned into a superstition (it´s not working any more though!). They should ditch the clappers, flags and pre-match pyros to save money. They don´t boost the atmosphere - it just peters out in 5-10 mins.

I don´t go to away games but the points system means that it´s the same 1500-3000 people every time. When I see our away fans on TV they look older and less excitable than the fans of other teams.

[Corky]

4 hours ago, Sir Steve Howard said:

Unfortunately we know that this isn't true.

So many of our die hard fans (in terms of attendance through thick and thin) offer absolutely 0 in terms of support other than clapping players off.

As @Stadt mentioned, we need attendance to fall so it's easier for like minded supporters to gather in one place (see Scotland).

Yep. The perspective lot who tut and shake their heads at the negativity never offer their own positive response.

[MattFox]

9 hours ago, Stadt said:

Midlanders are pretty reserved and stoic generally, then we have what’s possibly the least urban fanbase in the country. 
 

Partly by accident, partly by design we have a very lower middle class fan base. 
 

Perhaps not representative but I know far more City fans that live outside of Leicester (excluding the county) than live in it by probably 5:1.

I think that’s pretty representative tbf

 

Even if you exclude places like Glenfield, Wigston, Syston etc which are attached to the city it’s probably around 3:1

 

 

[Dan]

6 hours ago, Stadt said:

Fresh blood into a fanbase is what makes the difference atmosphere wise, plus low attendance so like minded fans can group together.

 

We haven't had the former because ST availability hasn't been there since 14/15. The club did the absolute bare minimum for the latter too. Hopefully we get safe standing one day and that does lead the necessary churn.

I thought this was especially true of Hull last season - a fanbase I've never rated who've really picked up a bit.

[Dan]

I reckon we've got the highest percentage of drivers in our away ends of virtually anybody. Not a criticism but more observation = but definitely means more sober ends.

[pkonline]

There's little difference in fan mentality between clubs. Just different situations fans at the clubs experience. Stick a Leicester fans at Liverpool right now, it'd be the same. Stick a Forest fan in Leicester now, the same.

 

Fans are fans, now matter how much "different" we all think we are.

[Dr The Singh]

21 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Appreciate this has been discussed in the stadium atmosphere thread a little bit but I guess it’s a question for our more experienced fan on here, have our fans just always been a bit soft and half hearted compared to the rest? 
 

Especially compared to some of our rivals. Why are clappers universally accepted by our fanbase when they’d have been refused at other clubs our size? Why do we have so many sitters at away games? Why is there a focus on the opposition fans instead of our own team? We just don’t feel like a club that’s got a real raw passion to it in any way. We score a goal away from home (obviously not this season 😅) and there are never any genuine limbs or real passion celebrating a goal. I know we’ve had some half decent atmospheres over the years but let’s be honest there are levels to it. 
 

Just wondered, even going back to Filbert street, have we always just been a bit half hearted and soft? Not a football city? 

Why are u the way u are

[Parafox]

3 hours ago, pkonline said:

There's little difference in fan mentality between clubs. Just different situations fans at the clubs experience. Stick a Leicester fans at Liverpool right now, it'd be the same. Stick a Forest fan in Leicester now, the same.

 

Fans are fans, now matter how much "different" we all think we are.

 

You've said pretty much what I was going to post.

 

It's not just us. Look at Man U. Liverpool, Man C etc. and all their plastics.

 

The hardcore of true, dyed in the wool supporters of our, and most clubs, has been watered down by the occasional tourist types. They don't really give a damn. I wonder how any "supporters" we attracted following the PL and the FA cup win that still are as vociferous or turn up in numbers now?

 

I think the apathy we're experiencing now is due to several factors including poor performances/results, lack of interest from KP and the disengagement of fans by the board/owner.

 

Their own lack of interest in our club is bound to trickle down.

 

The whole is the sum of it's parts in the case of LCFC an KP. Ticketing, food and the limited choice of beer on offer, the state of the concourse, (the "security" staff are a joke), and the associated facilities, leave a lot to be desired.

 

It's all so negative. On and off the pitch. It just feels like the supporters are an irrelevance, as is success on the pitch as long as KP are still in profit in their other ventures. We're just a trinket to add to their business profile. And I think many fans are starting to realise this and start thinking "why should we bother" because KP don't.