Next Manager

[Claudio Fannieri]

I have said it before I would love to see Richie Wellens given the job however I have a feeling it will be Russell Martin. 

[Ric Flair]

Of course it's Russell Martin, it's been him since the club put the feelers out in May 2023. At some point he's ending up here. Now he's got a promotion to his name and proven he cannot organise a defence at any level as well as playing that absolutely pointless possession for possessions sake football that our ownership is obsessed with.

 

Just do it already so we can get it over and done with and hopefully the final act of this ownership before we get a new era. 

 

 

[foxfanazer]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Of course it's Russell Martin, it's been him since the club put the feelers out in May 2023. At some point he's ending up here. Now he's got a promotion to his name and proven he cannot organise a defence at any level as well as playing that absolutely pointless possession for possessions sake football that our ownership is obsessed with.

 

Just do it already so we can get it over and done with and hopefully the final act of this ownership before we get a new era. 

 

 

That's me done if it happens. I've had enough as it is but if we employ that tactically inept smarmy bastard it'll be the final straw. I despise everything about the club at present 

[LcFc_Smiv]

This isn't me saying I want it to be Wilder, but how proud I would be to have a manager who has that passion for our club, talks that much sense, and just gets it. I don't advise listening to the full 16 mins but there's some brilliant sound bites all over social media from this interview.

 

 

[ClaphamFox]

16 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I have said it before I would love to see Richie Wellens given the job however I have a feeling it will be Russell Martin. 

It won’t be Russell Martin. The club’s objective will be to return to the PL as soon as possible and stay there this time. Although Martin succeeded in getting promoted with Southampton, his record before he was sacked this season was atrocious. His stubborn refusal to change a system that was comprehensively failing every week suggests he would have zero ability to keep us in the PL if even if he got us there.
 

I can only assume that people suggesting Martin will be our next manager believe that the club will ignore/overlook his  spectacular failure with Southampton this season. They won’t. For the first time since KP took over, the club is facing the prospect of a material fall in attendances. Appointing Martin would be a wildly unpopular move at a time when the club desperately needs to convince the fans that things are going to change for the better. It would be a suicidal appointment. It’s not going to happen. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

2 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It won’t be Russell Martin. The club’s objective will be to return to the PL as soon as possible and stay there this time. Although Martin succeeded in getting promoted with Southampton, his record before he was sacked this season was atrocious. His stubborn refusal to change a system that was comprehensively failing every week suggests he would have zero ability to keep us in the PL if even if he got us there.
 

I can only assume that people suggesting Martin will be our next manager believe that the club will ignore/overlook his  spectacular failure with Southampton this season. They won’t. For the first time since KP took over, the club is facing the prospect of a material fall in attendances. Appointing Martin would be a wildly unpopular move at a time when the club desperately needs to convince the fans that things are going to change for the better. It would be a suicidal appointment. It’s not going to happen. 

Sensible post but you forget one thing this is Leicester City Football Club, a club that thought hiring Steve Cooper would be a good idea after he had spunked millions at forest and had them on the verge of the relegation places playing horrible turgid football, so I wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if the went ahead and appointed Martin. 

[Ric Flair]

9 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It won’t be Russell Martin. The club’s objective will be to return to the PL as soon as possible and stay there this time. Although Martin succeeded in getting promoted with Southampton, his record before he was sacked this season was atrocious. His stubborn refusal to change a system that was comprehensively failing every week suggests he would have zero ability to keep us in the PL if even if he got us there.
 

I can only assume that people suggesting Martin will be our next manager believe that the club will ignore/overlook his  spectacular failure with Southampton this season. They won’t. For the first time since KP took over, the club is facing the prospect of a material fall in attendances. Appointing Martin would be a wildly unpopular move at a time when the club desperately needs to convince the fans that things are going to change for the better. It would be a suicidal appointment. It’s not going to happen. 

You put way too much confidence in this current ownership and board knowing how to fix this. 

[foxfanazer]

If Top and Rudkin stay the next manager is irrelevant. We can only start to recover once these fools have left the club. Think we're looking at another decade of obscurity to be perfectly honest. The mismanagement of the club is remarkable 

[ClaphamFox]

Just now, Claudio Fannieri said:

Sensible post but you forget one thing this is Leicester City Football Club, a club that thought hiring Steve Cooper would be a good idea after he had spunked millions at forest and had them on the verge of the relegation places playing horrible turgid football, so I wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if the went ahead and appointed Martin. 

Cooper was a poor appointment but there was  at least some logic in it - he did succeed in keeping Forest up and his stock was stock was still high when he left. Martin was taking Southampton back down in spectacular fashion and has shredded his reputation with his ludicrous obstinacy over tactics, etc. The two situations are not comparable. 
 

Besides, if your logic is that the club will appoint Martin because it appointed Cooper, you’re assuming that the board will have learned nothing at all from this season’s farce. While I understand why people might be this cynical, I respectfully disagree. This relegation will inflict further damage on the KP brand and they will want to make sure it doesn’t happen again. They won’t appoint Martin.

[teblin]

42 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

You put way too much confidence in this current ownership and board knowing how to fix this. 

This I what feel and worry about the Martin situation. But I hope @ClaphamFox is right and we don't go down that route.

 

I am a bit fed up with "modern" football. As actually all it is is copying what someone else does, but that other club has al the resources. Its like Creed Copying Pearl Jam, Bush Copying Nirvana, Sure they''lll have some success but ultimately its an imitation. 

(showed my age with that analogy)

 

I'm not saying I want us to aimlessly whack the ball forward, but I what to tempo and pace.

 

[Edingleyfox]

I don’t think the club did enough homework before appointing either manager and very little direction to new staff was given about the players that were being inherited. Leicester are still experimenting with players recruited in 2021 that Rodgers didn’t particularly rate. On top of that only 1 player recruited last summer/January was starting yesterday.

Going to be a huge undertaking for any manager to sort

 

 

 

[SK3Blue]

Very much doubt RVN was even on the radar until United beat us twice at Old Trafford and Amorim got the job. 
 

More evidence of short sighted decision making. More to come too.  Who we get is irrelevant until those above are gone. 

[MaidstoneFox]

I think we need experience, not another novice please. Ranieri is doing a great job at Roma and while I'm not suggesting a return for him, we need someone who has been a manager/head coach many times to sort out the mess we have and deal with the fragmented dressing room culture. RVN talked a good game but he is more of a coach/assistant really, you can see the fear and doubt in his eyes - he doesn't have the experience to draw on to deal with these situations. He would have no clue about dealing with a 46 match slog in the Championship.

[Haywood_6]

Does anyone else get the feeling Ruud is staying for the remainder of this season and quite possibly beyond? I've got a very bad feeling he might 

[TheGoldenGod]

22 minutes ago, SK3Blue said:

Very much doubt RVN was even on the radar until United beat us twice at Old Trafford and Amorim got the job. 
 

More evidence of short sighted decision making. More to come too.  Who we get is irrelevant until those above are gone. 

He was a candidate when we got relegated last time.

[blue army 1988]

4 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said:

Does anyone else get the feeling Ruud is staying for the remainder of this season and quite possibly beyond? I've got a very bad feeling he might 

I'm thinking there's a clause in his contract to sack him a lot cheaper when we are relegated.

[Stuntman_Mike]

5 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said:

Does anyone else get the feeling Ruud is staying for the remainder of this season and quite possibly beyond? I've got a very bad feeling he might 

The longer it goes on yeah. 

 

We need a complete rebuild, we can't have his negativity going into next season.

[ChrisFilter]

7 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said:

Does anyone else get the feeling Ruud is staying for the remainder of this season and quite possibly beyond? I've got a very bad feeling he might 

I expect him to be in charge in the Championship. Top’s all giddy at his star playing career. 

[winteriscoming]

Only we could get rid of a manager who has prob the worst record in premier league history and replace him with an even worse record. I don’t want Martin or Dyche. 

[SK3Blue]

28 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

He was a candidate when we got relegated last time.

Is that so, in that case, they obviously didn’t see enough in him at that point but suddenly he’s good enough for a relegation scrap. 

[Ric Flair]

31 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

He was a candidate when we got relegated last time.

Wasn't it last summer when Maresca had left?

[TheGoldenGod]

5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Wasn't it last summer when Maresca had left?

Possibly! I just remember he was on their radar before we appointed him and thought it was around the time we were banding around some interesting names, like Maresca.

[kingfox]

They’ve got two options. 
 

The imaginative route like they did with Maresca, try and pluck another novice like Carlos Cuesta, Johnny Heitinga or Davide Ancelotti, or go for an up-and-coming manager from abroad. 
 

Or they go for the unimaginative safe route, someone with a history in the English leagues like Russell Martin, Sean Dyche, Gary O’Neil, Steven Gerrard. 
 

Like others, I fear it will be Russell Martin, just because this board in the past has been obsessed with the possession way. They’ve had a hard on for Graham Potter for years, so Russell Martin is right up their street. 

[MaidstoneFox]

Some sort of 'best case scenario' at this stage could be another couple of terrible games or until relegation is confirmed and then perhaps a 'mutual agreement' departure, with Andy King or BBM placed in charge until the end of the season. They will probably hope there are more managerial candidates available in the summer. Otherwise, it could be another 9 defeats (even Southampton, I wouldn't be confident about).

[ClaphamFox]

9 minutes ago, kingfox said:

They’ve got two options. 
 

The imaginative route like they did with Maresca, try and pluck another novice like Carlos Cuesta, Johnny Heitinga or Davide Ancelotti, or go for an up-and-coming manager from abroad. 
 

Or they go for the unimaginative safe route, someone with a history in the English leagues like Russell Martin, Sean Dyche, Gary O’Neil, Steven Gerrard. 
 

Like others, I fear it will be Russell Martin, just because this board in the past has been obsessed with the possession way. They’ve had a hard on for Graham Potter for years, so Russell Martin is right up their street. 

Graham Potter successfully managed Brighton for several seasons in the PL - they were in the top four when he left. Martin's one attempt at managing in the PL was an unmitigated disaster. They are not remotely comparable.