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inckley fox

inckley fox

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15 hours ago, murphy said:

I think you're being incredibly generous to Cooper there. 

 

I think he wanted Prem experience above all else.  Reid and Ayew weren't signed as back ups.  They were Cooper picks, Ayew is a Cooper player, they have history. 

 

Don't forget coopers shit tactics of getting the wingers to tuck in and to rotate our totally unsuitable full backs as wide attacking options, thus, no need to have wingers with pace. 

 

Cooper knew what he was doing, sacrificing any semblance of flair or creativity (Fatawu, Ricardo...) in favour of experienced journeymen duffers.  

 

 

I suppose we're both speculating. I find it hard to believe that those guys were signed to replace Fatawu / Mavididi, but in the event it hardly matters because, as you say, he ended up playing both of them often enough. I also agree about the overlapping full-backs. If I were to continue being incredibly generous to Cooper, as you put it(!), maybe I'd say that many of us felt Enzo underused the overlapping FBs, especially with Justin, so it wasn't a surprise to see us give it a whirl. But again, that proved to be the wrong decision, and you rightly point out that the tucked-in wingers were pretty horrible.

 

I don't mean to come across as a Cooper apologist. While it's inevitable that people are going to question the change of manager, it seemed clearer that things were going awry, and that he'd been the wrong appointment, than the league standings indicated. I just don't feel he was a completely hopeless incompetent to the degree that Ruud seems to be, so it's a case of me trying to make sense of some of his more curious decisions. Maybe you're right and there's no sense to be made of them.

 

But I go along with the idea that this season has largely been the story of two poor managerial appointments. I actually think we got the previous one wrong too. Not because Enzo isn't a good manager, nor that he did anything other than a good job for us. Simply because we weren't committed - understandably, I think - to seeing through his brand of football in the top flight. I think the about-turn in style had as much to do with our failure this season as the two substandard appointments, and we should have made an appointment whose ideas fitted in with what we deemed practical upon promotion.

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Lambert09

Lambert09

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19 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Aaaaah yes that'll do it, give Glover more responsibility despite our appalling period under his tenure and shun any significant change that is clearly so badly needed.

I still actually have faith in Glover.  But thats because of players that seem to be obvious manager requests, rather than a scout suggestion. If cooper or maresca specifically request a player then it’s harsh to blame Glover. Over the last 2 years the ones that stand out are-

 

Bad signings cooper:

ayew 

Reid 

skipp (possibly Glover was involved given the price) 

 

Bad signings Maresca:

 

casadei

doyle (wasn’t as good as expected) 

 

Bad Signings Glover:

 

Coady (but that assignment was to find a leader… maybe harsh to judge) 

Okoli 


Unknown

woyo 


When you consider we’ve signed fatawu, Mavididi, hermansen, bilal, yunus, buonnanotte and turned a profit on cannon.  
 

I don’t think the scout is the problem, it’s the direction from the club. Focusing on prem experience whilst playing in the bargain basement with no lure… that was cooper or the clubs authorized direction.  


Last year gives me enough of a hope, that he knows what he’s doing and can flourish, as long as the club gets someone in who wants to move in the right direction 

 

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Ric Flair

Ric Flair

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37 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I still actually have faith in Glover.  But thats because of players that seem to be obvious manager requests, rather than a scout suggestion. If cooper or maresca specifically request a player then it’s harsh to blame Glover. Over the last 2 years the ones that stand out are-

 

Bad signings cooper:

ayew 

Reid 

skipp (possibly Glover was involved given the price) 

 

Bad signings Maresca:

 

casadei

doyle (wasn’t as good as expected) 

 

Bad Signings Glover:

 

Coady (but that assignment was to find a leader… maybe harsh to judge) 

Okoli 


Unknown

woyo 


When you consider we’ve signed fatawu, Mavididi, hermansen, bilal, yunus, buonnanotte and turned a profit on cannon.  
 

I don’t think the scout is the problem, it’s the direction from the club. Focusing on prem experience whilst playing in the bargain basement with no lure… that was cooper or the clubs authorized direction.  


Last year gives me enough of a hope, that he knows what he’s doing and can flourish, as long as the club gets someone in who wants to move in the right direction 

 

I think his track record is extremely iffy everywhere he's been. Such a gulf in class between him and Macia.

moore_94

moore_94

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At least watching Southampton today will give us a good idea of how we will be playing next season


This is proper Brussell-esque from them

AjcW

AjcW

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37 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Lee carsley is at the ground. 

Ahead of an international break and a tonne of eligible players….

Muzzy_no7

Muzzy_no7

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1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

I still actually have faith in Glover.  But thats because of players that seem to be obvious manager requests, rather than a scout suggestion. If cooper or maresca specifically request a player then it’s harsh to blame Glover. Over the last 2 years the ones that stand out are-

 

Bad signings cooper:

ayew 

Reid 

skipp (possibly Glover was involved given the price) 

 

Bad signings Maresca:

 

casadei

doyle (wasn’t as good as expected) 

 

Bad Signings Glover:

 

Coady (but that assignment was to find a leader… maybe harsh to judge) 

Okoli 


Unknown

woyo 


When you consider we’ve signed fatawu, Mavididi, hermansen, bilal, yunus, buonnanotte and turned a profit on cannon.  
 

I don’t think the scout is the problem, it’s the direction from the club. Focusing on prem experience whilst playing in the bargain basement with no lure… that was cooper or the clubs authorized direction.  


Last year gives me enough of a hope, that he knows what he’s doing and can flourish, as long as the club gets someone in who wants to move in the right direction 

 

Doyle was decent for me, left footed CB.

 

We moved the ball forward better with him on the pitch last season. 

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Silebyfox_89

Silebyfox_89

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2 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

I still actually have faith in Glover.  But thats because of players that seem to be obvious manager requests, rather than a scout suggestion. If cooper or maresca specifically request a player then it’s harsh to blame Glover. Over the last 2 years the ones that stand out are-

 

Bad signings cooper:

ayew 

Reid 

skipp (possibly Glover was involved given the price) 

 

Bad signings Maresca:

 

casadei

doyle (wasn’t as good as expected) 

 

Bad Signings Glover:

 

Coady (but that assignment was to find a leader… maybe harsh to judge) 

Okoli 


Unknown

woyo 


When you consider we’ve signed fatawu, Mavididi, hermansen, bilal, yunus, buonnanotte and turned a profit on cannon.  
 

I don’t think the scout is the problem, it’s the direction from the club. Focusing on prem experience whilst playing in the bargain basement with no lure… that was cooper or the clubs authorized direction.  


Last year gives me enough of a hope, that he knows what he’s doing and can flourish, as long as the club gets someone in who wants to move in the right direction 

 

I wouldn't say Okoli has been a bad player at all, just a young player adapting to the prem that's done ok.

Coady has been a poor signing given his wage and the mistakes he's made.

Doyle was a good LCB in the championship.

 

 

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Lambert09

Lambert09

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11 minutes ago, Silebyfox_89 said:

I wouldn't say Okoli has been a bad player at all, just a young player adapting to the prem that's done ok.

Coady has been a poor signing given his wage and the mistakes he's made.

Doyle was a good LCB in the championship.

 

 

The fact people can debate some of them show that he’s hardly been honking individually. 

 

Just been given some pretty poor direction. I think the fact that we were going after someone like Soule and picked up El Khannous gives me a good indication that he does have a good eye and statistics based approach. 
 

If what this article is indicating, is that he has the ability to drive the direction of our signings and not be told by Rudkin to aim for ageing experience then I like it. That would be a return to what Steve Walsh used to do and that’s what I want. why hire someone because they have an eye for talent but then corner them into signing x amount of players with prem experience etc. Let him just tell you the best players for the positions you need and that have the ability to do what the manager wants. 
 

 

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Chelmofox

Chelmofox

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3 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

I still actually have faith in Glover.  But thats because of players that seem to be obvious manager requests, rather than a scout suggestion. If cooper or maresca specifically request a player then it’s harsh to blame Glover. Over the last 2 years the ones that stand out are-

 

Bad signings cooper:

ayew 

Reid 

skipp (possibly Glover was involved given the price) 

 

Bad signings Maresca:

 

casadei

doyle (wasn’t as good as expected) 

 

Bad Signings Glover:

 

Coady (but that assignment was to find a leader… maybe harsh to judge) 

Okoli 


Unknown

woyo 


When you consider we’ve signed fatawu, Mavididi, hermansen, bilal, yunus, buonnanotte and turned a profit on cannon.  
 

I don’t think the scout is the problem, it’s the direction from the club. Focusing on prem experience whilst playing in the bargain basement with no lure… that was cooper or the clubs authorized direction.  


Last year gives me enough of a hope, that he knows what he’s doing and can flourish, as long as the club gets someone in who wants to move in the right direction 

 

I dont think Casadei and Doyle were bad signings at all, and both were loans. Casadei was very much a young developmental loan and therefore blew hot and cold, but he wasn't terrible and we ironically missed him when he was recalled and Ndidi was injured. Doyle was the level of Championship we were at and provided depth and what the manager wanted. He played plenty of games.

 

JimJams

JimJams

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I think Doyle was decent enough, I don't think the role of LCB was one he was entirely comfortable with.  As a regular CB I think he'd be fine.  Cas was crap for the hype given to him before he joined.  But like you say, loans.  Useful for where we were at.

winteriscoming

winteriscoming

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It’s shocking to think how bad the signings were last summer compared to the summer before. I know we were in a different division but we had a better side in the championship than this season. 

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coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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Just now, winteriscoming said:

It’s shocking to think how bad the signings were last summer compared to the summer before. I know we were in a different division but we had a better side in the championship than this season. 

It's because whoever the manager is has a lot of influence on signings! 

moore_94

moore_94

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Danny Rohl - Sheff Wed

 

Miron Muslic - Plymouth

 

Liam Manning - Bristol City

 

Richie Wellens - Leyton Orient

 

Will Still - Lens

 

Sébastien Pocognoli - Union SG (quite unlikely)

 

Inigo Perez - Rayo Vallecano (quite unlikely)

 

Thiago Motta - free (will probably get another job in Italy)

 

Urs Fischer - free (Top and Rudkin won't have a clue who he is)

 

Would prefer Dyche over Martin or Carsley, but ideally we get none of them

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kingfox

kingfox

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1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Make it happen come on Top and Rudkin you know it makes sense. 

You’d dive into the trenches with this guy wouldn’t you…

 

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Muzzy_no7

Muzzy_no7

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Not sure if he’s been mentioned but I’ve had a look into Thomas Thomasberg at FC Midtjylland.

 

Hes done a very good job there playing an attractive attacking 442.

 

He did a very good job at Randers too. 

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