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6 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

£30m would likely get BEK but definitely not Fatawu. And while selling one of them is plausible, it’s highly unlikely we’d sell both in the same window unless insane money was offered that would enable us to completely overhaul the team. I can’t see Sunderland or anybody else offering that kind of money for Abdul.

I don’t think the sale of one or both is going to go anywhere near overhauling the team . 

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After his performance, on Saturday whereby the Preston fullback had him in his back pocket if any club seriously offers 30 million pounds for him, and I like him, we would be foolish to turn it down.

 

He spent nearly all of last season on the physios table.  30 million he can be replaced.

 

Lazy journalism me thinks at it's finest.

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1 minute ago, suffolk fox said:

After his performance, on Saturday whereby the Preston fullback had him in his back pocket if any club seriously offers 30 million pounds for him, and I like him, we would be foolish to turn it down.

 

He spent nearly all of last season on the physios table.  30 million he can be replaced.

 

Lazy journalism me thinks at it's finest.

One bad game and we should sell him for half his value, do you think Liverpool want to see Salah after every time Luke Thomas has had him in his back pocket

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1 minute ago, suffolk fox said:

After his performance, on Saturday whereby the Preston fullback had him in his back pocket if any club seriously offers 30 million pounds for him, and I like him, we would be foolish to turn it down.

 

He spent nearly all of last season on the physios table.  30 million he can be replaced.

 

Lazy journalism me thinks at it's finest.

To be fair the journalist does admit that it will be hard to get a deal done on Fatawu.

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1 minute ago, lanefox said:

One bad game and we should sell him for half his value, do you think Liverpool want to see Salah after every time Luke Thomas has had him in his back pocket

Let's hope it was one bad game.  I like and rate him, but he was very poor at Preston.

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6 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

After his performance, on Saturday whereby the Preston fullback had him in his back pocket if any club seriously offers 30 million pounds for him, and I like him, we would be foolish to turn it down.

 

He spent nearly all of last season on the physios table.  30 million he can be replaced.

 

Lazy journalism me thinks at it's finest.

Can he be replaced though? What guarantees do we have that any money made on player sales will be reinvested into the squad? And do we have any faith in Rudkin and the recruitment team to adequately replace any of our players? He's still young, so for me I'd keep him. If he was to have a good season like he had last time in the championship, he'd be worth more than £30m

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1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

It was because they were able to double/treble-up on him and Mavididi safe in the knowledge that it would not lead to us causing danger in other areas because nobody else was making runs. 

Mate, he wasn't doubled up on.  He tried, and failed, on numerous occasions to beat him on the outside for pace.  It was obvious, every  time he got the ball.  Fullback just dropped off him slightly and took the ball off him every time.  Even, the bloke behind me shouted out, Fatawu, try something different for gawds sake!

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19 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

Mate, he wasn't doubled up on.  He tried, and failed, on numerous occasions to beat him on the outside for pace.  It was obvious, every  time he got the ball.  Fullback just dropped off him slightly and took the ball off him every time.  Even, the bloke behind me shouted out, Fatawu, try something different for gawds sake!

Bloke behind you is a genius. Gerrim in. 
 

Wingers always blow hot and cold. Evan Salah can’t beat his kryptonite that is Luke Thomas. There are days where you just can’t do what you want, and Abdul is still bedding in games following a long lay off. It happens. The problem for us is we don’t have many other tools at our disposal when he’s not on fire. 

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1 hour ago, suffolk fox said:

After his performance, on Saturday whereby the Preston fullback had him in his back pocket if any club seriously offers 30 million pounds for him, and I like him, we would be foolish to turn it down.

 

He spent nearly all of last season on the physios table.  30 million he can be replaced.

 

Lazy journalism me thinks at it's finest.

Any half decent manager would’ve got Ayew and JJ to create an overlap and make a simple 1-2. 
 

He was happy to watch Fatawu get destroyed and fouled constantly by a player doing the basics well, while at the same time watching Ayew hog the ball and fall over and JJ stand still or disappear after passing to Fatawu at the halfway line. 
 

half decent team and manager and he is in every time. 

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2 hours ago, lanefox said:

One bad game and we should sell him for half his value, do you think Liverpool want to see Salah after every time Luke Thomas has had him in his back pocket

Maybe a tad overrated by some,  6 goals and 13 assists last time in the championship in a team romping the league. 3 of those goals came in one game and another 3 in 39 appearances.

If we can get HB type of money £40 million with sell ons, and strengthen key areas with new blood I’d sell.

He is an exciting young player, but we have been starved of any good attacking players for a while. 
Mavididi got 12 goals, can he play on the right if Fatawu was sold with Monga starting on the left and hopefully exceeding Fatwau previous output.

For me it would all depend, on what could be done with the money that comes in.

 

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16 hours ago, em9999 said:

I think the mental health pandemic runs far deeper than losing a footballer from a team you support 

 

I think 🤔 personally speaking there are so many more important things in life than football that effect mental health

 

 

Social media in general is a big driver though which I think was the point being made there. Applying it to football, back in the past, it would what, just be in the paper the next day that so and so has moved from x to y? Now it is the constantly shoved down throats and the rumours going round and round. It’s representative of social media as a whole and how it affects people.

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18 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Maybe a tad overrated by some,  6 goals and 13 assists last time in the championship in a team romping the league. 3 of those goals came in one game and another 3 in 39 appearances.

If we can get HB type of money £40 million with sell ons, and strengthen key areas with new blood I’d sell.

He is an exciting young player, but we have been starved of any good attacking players for a while. 
Mavididi got 12 goals, can he play on the right if Fatawu was sold with Monga starting on the left and hopefully exceeding Fatwau previous output.

For me it would all depend, on what could be done with the money that comes in.

 

He was 19 years old that season mate.

 

phenomenal stats.

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The club is absolutely cooked, on the bones of it's arse financially and outside of BEK, Fatawu and the academy lads a squad full of Championship level players who think they're better than the club because their salaries are PL level. This squad is good enough to get promotion but only if the desire is there to do it, anything under 100% effort from the group will see us fail, this group of players are not good enough to give 90% and get promoted.

 

I can see us being in the Championship for the foreseeable future as we turn into another Stoke, QPR, Derby, etc.

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With his recent injury £30 million isn't a terrible offer. Morale amongst fans and players would hit a new low if he went. I think sometimes he can be a bit predictable cutting in on the edge of the box aiming for the left corner although when it works it is fantastic.

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16 minutes ago, Gerard said:

I can see us being in the Championship for the foreseeable future as we turn into another Stoke, QPR, Derby, etc.

My thoughts too, unless we sign 5-6 players in this window. Looking very unlikely though. Our downfall very likely to continue.  

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34 minutes ago, mod hero said:

He was 19 years old that season mate.

 

phenomenal stats.

40m is a phenomenal price for someone who is yet to prove themselves in the top flight.

Case and point being Barnes.

 

 

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1 hour ago, HankMarvin said:

Maybe a tad overrated by some,  6 goals and 13 assists last time in the championship in a team romping the league. 3 of those goals came in one game and another 3 in 39 appearances.

If we can get HB type of money £40 million with sell ons, and strengthen key areas with new blood I’d sell.

He is an exciting young player, but we have been starved of any good attacking players for a while. 
Mavididi got 12 goals, can he play on the right if Fatawu was sold with Monga starting on the left and hopefully exceeding Fatwau previous output.

For me it would all depend, on what could be done with the money that comes in.

 

19 goal contributions in 46 game season is more than impressive 

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53 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Social media in general is a big driver though which I think was the point being made there. Applying it to football, back in the past, it would what, just be in the paper the next day that so and so has moved from x to y? Now it is the constantly shoved down throats and the rumours going round and round. It’s representative of social media as a whole and how it affects people.

Compare and contrast relying on media usually once it’s happened (teletext 👀) or the paper you receive once a day and contrast to the constant cycle of updates from often inaccurate sources across multiple platforms all this to try and gain clicks due to the insane demand of needing to know constantly with F5 refreshing constantly in the hope of news or a fortune topic turning hot for positive news rather than hilarious puns. 
 

I’ll be honest early part of this summer I had been doing up my house and went away etc. Stayed off here and social media, it makes a difference and I didn’t really miss all the crap going on and the mass hysteria created to divide. It probably has hit foxes fans a little harder due to the complete radio silence from the club and lack of positive activity and like some have said this has only led to speculation and anger fuelled by a instant news cycle driven by fake reports and opinion. 
 

I know some on here hardly if ever post, Babylon for example (won’t tag) but I got the feeling he was better away from it. 
 

The football is meant to be the outlet I look forward to and social media shouldn’t be filling the void. 

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25 minutes ago, lanefox said:

19 goal contributions in 46 game season is more than impressive 

Yes impressive, but surpassed repeatedly over the last 2 seasons by other wingers in the same league.

 

A Tad overrated by some fans thinking his worth 50m to

60m plus coming back from a serious injury.

 

He will struggle getting 13 assists if we have Daka and Ayew as the forwards.

 

 

Barnes had 6 goals and 10 assists in the top flight and had produced over multiple seasons. 
Maddison exceeded those numbers both inclusive of English tax and desirability, yet similar amounts that are being deemed as too low for Fatawu who is a risk for the buying club.

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1 hour ago, STUHILL said:

My thoughts too, unless we sign 5-6 players in this window. Looking very unlikely though. Our downfall very likely to continue.  

 

 

Amid total silence from the club - no statements, no comments on their future intentions and no news.

Is Top deliberately  trying to kill our interest in the club?

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41 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Yes impressive, but surpassed repeatedly over the last 2 seasons by other wingers in the same league.

 

A Tad overrated by some fans thinking his worth 50m to

60m plus coming back from a serious injury.

 

He will struggle getting 13 assists if we have Daka and Ayew as the forwards.

 

 

Barnes had 6 goals and 10 assists in the top flight and had produced over multiple seasons. 
Maddison exceeded those numbers both inclusive of English tax and desirability, yet similar amounts that are being deemed as too low for Fatawu who is a risk for the buying club.

Doesn’t Fatawu have the record for most big chances created in the Championship? Pretty sure he beat the likes of G. Rutter who Leeds sold for over €46m (reportedly). Surely he’s worth similar or more than that as he’s a winger? I get he’s been injured and working his way back. But I agree 50-60m is a little mental… who knows in a few years he might be worth that much. 

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