Harry Winks

[Lambert09]

15 hours ago, Foxes96 said:

Would Adrian Bernabé still be seen as a suitable replacement/ alternative for Winks? Seemed an inevitable signing under Enzo but never materialised 

Yes but we are 10x more likely to go for Tom cairney 

[teblin]

Ricky p be the option to replace him in the middle?

[Tielemans63]

I wondered if it was a sign he was off when he didn't start on Sunday. At first I couldn't get why Marti would start with Skipp and Soumare, but then the penny dropped - that's probably what he's going to have to work with moving forward.

[st albans fox]

38 minutes ago, teblin said:

Ricky p be the option to replace him in the middle?

A Cdm tempo player is a very specific role that players learn over years 

you can’t just stick someone in there and ask them to do it 

 

anyone can just occupy the space and be a cdm - that’s not what winks does. wilf was a cdm - but he couldn’t dictate the tempo of a game.  

[funkyrobot]

23 hours ago, Lesta Legend said:

Any fan getting overly emotional with Winks staying need to cast their mind back to the inability of the club moving on players and the huge negative PSR impact of not bringing in revenue from sales and continuing to pay massive wages we cannot afford. We’ve a points deduction on the horizon we shouldn’t shy away from selling any player and especially those that will have no intrinsic value come the end of their contract this summer. 
 

I like Winks he changed the game yesterday I would rather keep him but club should realistically be selling him and replacing him as he’s in his final year we can’t afford to keep hold of players letting them go for nothing in the hope they’ll be the difference in terms of promotion. That’s insane. 
 

 

Surely keeping Winks gives us a better chance of promotion and the significant cash injection that it brings ? Selling him now reduces the likelihood of promotion and won’t stop a points reduction coming. So the only positive is what would be a small fee and taking his wages off the bill 9 months earlier than would be the case when his contract runs out. Don’t forget that we’d need to buy and pay a replacement in the meantime too so that would offset some of the benefits of taking his wages off the books. Just doesn’t make sense to me unless we have 1 or preferably 2 absolute midfield maestros coming in to replace him.
 

A midfield of Skipp and Soumare is definitely ruling out any chance of promotion. 

[teblin]

18 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

A Cdm tempo player is a very specific role that players learn over years 

you can’t just stick someone in there and ask them to do it 

 

anyone can just occupy the space and be a cdm - that’s not what winks does. wilf was a cdm - but he couldn’t dictate the tempo of a game.  

At Leeds away, Riccy P played there. I know we lost that game, but we should been our of sight is Daka and Mavadidi take their chances. Ricardo played CDM alongside Winks and was absolutely brilliant that night. I think he give you something that Winks doesn't, that drive and ability to beat a man and change the Tempo.

 

In my opinion a fit Ricardo is one of the best players in this division. (the key word there is fit I know)

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd preffer Winks to still be here and Ricardo and him to be in the same team.

Edited 12 August 2025 by teblin

[st albans fox]

9 minutes ago, teblin said:

At Leeds away, Riccy P played there. I know we lost that game, but we should been our of sight is Daka and Mavadidi take their chances. Ricardo played CDM alongside Winks and was absolutely brilliant that night. I think he give you something that Winks doesn't, that drive and ability to beat a man and change the Tempo.

 

In my opinion a fit Ricardo is one of the best players in this division. (the key word there is fit I know)

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd preffer Winks to still be here and Ricardo and him to be in the same team.

Winks was still the tempo player in that game. Ricky is a wonderful player but he isn’t a tempo cdm.  I always feel Ricky is at his best coming onto the ball and able to drive forwards with it. coming into midfield as an inverting full back saw him better than when he was already there needing to be aware of what’s around him from a standing start. 

[Bablemikey]

Decision to sell hinges on who the club feel they can replace him with, and what Winks’ reaction might be. Is he the kind of player who might not give us his best if he is not allowed to go? 

[Lesta Legend]

43 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Surely keeping Winks gives us a better chance of promotion and the significant cash injection that it brings ? Selling him now reduces the likelihood of promotion and won’t stop a points reduction coming. So the only positive is what would be a small fee and taking his wages off the bill 9 months earlier than would be the case when his contract runs out. Don’t forget that we’d need to buy and pay a replacement in the meantime too so that would offset some of the benefits of taking his wages off the books. Just doesn’t make sense to me unless we have 1 or preferably 2 absolute midfield maestros coming in to replace him.
 

A midfield of Skipp and Soumare is definitely ruling out any chance of promotion. 

Well yes he is a good player and did make the difference and I’d rather Skipp and Soumare fck off.  But he was useless last year and if anything became a hindrance as we spiralled to yet another relegation. I don’t see why we again let another player leave for no money in the hope we get promoted and he leaves at the end of the season regardless. On promotion the powers that be may even offer him a new deal, the stuff of nightmares. Unlike the other players I’d like to leave there seems to be actual interest in Winks, we literally can’t afford to not sell players.

 

Yes we need players in regardless (freshen up etc) and we also need to give our youth a chance I don’t see why we continue to take the incorrect short term approach that hasn’t worked. With the way KPFC operates with the lack of any news of incomings we know what’s coming next, maybe the fact we’ve heard so much of the need to trim the squad and use youth players means just that. 
 

Some have to prepare themselves mentally for the fact we may not go back up or we could have a much weaker squad and our best chance with a points deduction is pushing for playoffs. 
 

You never know we could go for broke keep BEK and Winks and we’ll easily get back up but I just think we have to start learning our lessons and the club start getting things right. 
 

 

[funkyrobot]

53 minutes ago, teblin said:

At Leeds away, Riccy P played there. I know we lost that game, but we should been our of sight is Daka and Mavadidi take their chances. Ricardo played CDM alongside Winks and was absolutely brilliant that night. I think he give you something that Winks doesn't, that drive and ability to beat a man and change the Tempo.

 

In my opinion a fit Ricardo is one of the best players in this division. (the key word there is fit I know)

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd preffer Winks to still be here and Ricardo and him to be in the same team.

Ricky P is absolutely not an adequate replacement for Winks. Very different skillset not to mention an inability to stay fit. There’s no other player in our squad that can replicate Winks. Maybe Page in the future but that’s some way off. 

[stevostadium]

People need to realize that if and when we sell BEK, Winks and Fatawu, as well as long GOAT, Wilf AND mads, with the impending points deduction, the boards inability to buy any replacements we are in a relegation battle.

 

The sooner people realize the seriousness of our position the better

[funkyrobot]

2 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

Well yes he is a good player and did make the difference and I’d rather Skipp and Soumare fck off.  But he was useless last year and if anything became a hindrance as we spiralled to yet another relegation. I don’t see why we again let another player leave for no money in the hope we get promoted and he leaves at the end of the season regardless. On promotion the powers that be may even offer him a new deal, the stuff of nightmares. Unlike the other players I’d like to leave there seems to be actual interest in Winks, we literally can’t afford to not sell players.

 

Yes we need players in regardless (freshen up etc) and we also need to give our youth a chance I don’t see why we continue to take the incorrect short term approach that hasn’t worked. With the way KPFC operates with the lack of any news of incomings we know what’s coming next, maybe the fact we’ve heard so much of the need to trim the squad and use youth players means just that. 
 

Some have to prepare themselves mentally for the fact we may not go back up or we could have a much weaker squad and our best chance with a points deduction is pushing for playoffs. 
 

You never know we could go for broke keep BEK and Winks and we’ll easily get back up but I just think we have to start learning our lessons and the club start getting things right. 
 

 

Winks wasn’t useless last season. He was criminally mismanaged by Cooper (who often benched him alongside Mavididi) and even more so by RVN. Under Enzo he would’ve been fine. 

[coolhandfox]

Biggest issue with wink last season is we need to have a more balance formation, if we have gone with a double pivot of Wink and Ndidi and actually spent the money we cough up on Skipp, Okoli, BCDR on a couple of decent defenders we could have had a much better season.

 

A double act of both prime Kante and prime Ndidi would have struggled to shield the shit show at the back. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

After second half on Sunday I’d like to keep Winks. But if he’s got a year left the sensible thing may be to get some money for him. But I don’t think we have a ready made replacement - yes Ric could do that role but he’s too injury prone to rely on him imo.

[Levi Port]

Ricky if played in the middle from the start is an 8 not holding. We have to bring someone of real quality in if Winks goes ( dont think we will/can) and we have nobody near his level on the ball. The game on Sunday really showed just how desperate we are for quality there. 
 

Last time we won the championship we had a midfield 4 of KDH, Ndidi, Winks and Ric. We’re currently nowhere near that level and I don’t trust what we have at all if Winks goes. 
 

Wednesday pressed our midfield fairly well first half and we couldn’t cope at all, gave it away all the time, useless. We need players who are good enough to play through that and Winks was the only one. 

[pkonline]

I'd want to keep him. We can't flog every asset we have. We need him and would struggle with a cheaper replacement.

I don't fully understand the issues last season. All I heard is that he wanted to stay closer to the family, reasonable when you've just had a newborn baby!

[Angus Scott]

Such a shame that Braybrooke has not progressed, he would have been a good replacement for Winks

[Richmondfox]

3 hours ago, teblin said:

At Leeds away, Riccy P played there. I know we lost that game, but we should been our of sight is Daka and Mavadidi take their chances. Ricardo played CDM alongside Winks and was absolutely brilliant that night. I think he give you something that Winks doesn't, that drive and ability to beat a man and change the Tempo.

 

In my opinion a fit Ricardo is one of the best players in this division. (the key word there is fit I know)

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd preffer Winks to still be here and Ricardo and him to be in the same team.

Ricardo is both a good player and has a footballing brain, things Soumare and Skipp lack.  Hopefully Ricardo can stay fit and play that position with Winks, we need him enjoying his football and playing at the level we know he can for the sake of promotion.  

 

If the club get rid of Winks, BEK and Abdul in this season and expect the donkeys left to get us promoted, then they get what they deserve. 

[Guest BlueApple]

There are a plethora of technical midfielders in the game at the moment, so if it's true he's on 90k a week, I'd be happy to see leave. The biggest problem is I don't know if I'd trust the powers that be to actually sign a replacement, surely if you could get someone like Lewis Miley or George Earthy on loan that would still be pushing us in the right direction in terms of financially stablising us. 

Winks is very good at what he does but I wouldn't say he's irreplaceable, in saying that, I don't know if I'm mentally strong enough to do a season with Soumare and Skipp as our starting CMs. 

[Kinowe Soorie]

Very lightweight, seems to have a few brain fart moments in his play,  probably would prefer a team closer to home, after last season’s shenanigans, out of contract soon. No brainer for me.

[Claudio Fannieri]

23 minutes ago, BlueApple said:

There are a plethora of technical midfielders in the game at the moment, so if it's true he's on 90k a week, I'd be happy to see leave. The biggest problem is I don't know if I'd trust the powers that be to actually sign a replacement, surely if you could get someone like Lewis Miley or George Earthy on loan that would still be pushing us in the right direction in terms of financially stablising us. 

Winks is very good at what he does but I wouldn't say he's irreplaceable, in saying that, I don't know if I'm mentally strong enough to do a season with Soumare and Skipp as our starting CMs. 

Winks is nowhere near worth £90k per week and his output certainly doesn’t warrant that level of salary. There are players who could offer a similar level of ability and possibly better output and would cost a 3rd of that wage. Get rid ASAP, another of the drain the swamp mob. 
 

literally start again and if that means a season or two of consolidation whilst we get our shit together then so be it, however if that is the case all I want is some honesty and transparency from the club and at least if supporters are aware of the situation then the expectations on Marti and his team can at least be realistic. 

[Richmondfox]

3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Biggest issue with wink last season is we need to have a more balance formation, if we have gone with a double pivot of Wink and Ndidi and actually spent the money we cough up on Skipp, Okoli, BCDR on a couple of decent defenders we could have had a much better season.

 

A double act of both prime Kante and prime Ndidi would have struggled to shield the shit show at the back. 

Forgot the double pivots etc, we need JV to pass the ball to Winks first time quickly into space so we don’t have to have these fancy triangles and 10 passes as a player can’t turn with the ball, 

Edited 12 August 2025 by Richmondfox

[Stadt]

He has a year left, we can't keep letting players leave for nothing.

[FoxinNotts]

2 minutes ago, Stadt said:

He has a year left, we can't keep letting players leave for nothing.

Have the manager 'put his arm around him', tell him that he 'want's to build the team around him', and give him a new deal.

[Claudio Fannieri]

2 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Have the manager 'put his arm around him', tell him that he 'want's to build the team around him', and give him a new deal.

What on another £90k per week? Absolutely not, that would be utter madness