James Justin sold to Leeds United - Official

[jayfox26]

41 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

The reason why its a problem now is because the club didn't invest that money in a new fullback. Instead we're stuck with Luke Thomas.

 

This is why its hilarious when fans get giddy that certain players we don't like are being sold, we all know they're not getting replaced with new players.

The club is not interested in re-investing.

Whilst I agree with you, I can't wait to see the back of Winks and Faes, even if they don't get replaced. I mean they don't actually need replacing as they dont play now and both mentally checked out a long time ago.

[BrilliantFox]

2 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Whilst I agree with you, I can't wait to see the back of Winks and Faes, even if they don't get replaced. I mean they don't actually need replacing as they dont play now and both mentally checked out a long time ago.

If they're already in the bomb squad, get them sold. They're not playing anyway.

But JJ wasn't in the bomb squad, he was not ostracised.

 

Either way, all 3 need to replaced. 

 

 

Edited 13 January by BrilliantFox

[cruzFOX]

1 hour ago, TeamRocket said:

One of the things I never understood is why we got rid or let our backroom staff go so easily. With Enzo it felt like we was building from within back room staff etc but its understandable he took his people with him but when NP was here we in my opinion had a good back room team. From  fitness staff to tea room. This is defo not the same lcfc team

A good coach and a solid back room staff cannot be underestimated! We have not had a top setup since Pearson/ranieri.

why wouldn’t top & rudkin want to return to that template & winning formula that brought us so much success? We have lost our way so much we wouldn’t even know how to find our way back I guess. Still we live in hope 

[cruzFOX]

Sorry just to add we had the makings of a good setup under Enzo. All his men were deadly serious like him. Maybe that’s why players listened & respected him.

[UniFox21]

8 minutes ago, cruzFOX said:

A good coach and a solid back room staff cannot be underestimated! We have not had a top setup since Pearson/ranieri.

why wouldn’t top & rudkin want to return to that template & winning formula that brought us so much success? We have lost our way so much we wouldn’t even know how to find our way back I guess. Still we live in hope 

Id disagree, under both Puel and half of Rogers we had a pretty decent set up.

[jayfox26]

1 hour ago, BrilliantFox said:

If they're already in the bomb squad, get them sold. They're not playing anyway.

But JJ wasn't in the bomb squad, he was not ostracised.

 

Either way, all 3 need to replaced. 

 

 

Yeh he wasn't but think he had gone a bit stale here and in the last year of his contract, getting £10m was decent business. As you said though, not replacing him has proven to be a problem. I dont think anyone expected Kristiansen to be constantly injured/shit though which hasn't helped. Having Ricardo as our only decent right back was also a poor decision.

[ParkerPen]

I'm glad for the guy he's doing well at Leeds.

 

many more good appearances than bad ones for us

[Jaspa]

Leeds doing well, bouncing abit. Justin has had to earn his place from Bogle. As a team, last time I checked they're the least error prone in regards to conceding goal scoring opportunities in the Premier League. 

 

Justin was a superb signing for us. Not the same after his injuries mind, but an attitude you can't fault. Scored screamers and worked hard to get Vards his 200th and final goal for us. Good to see him playing like his old self.

[Paninistickers]

JJ is exactly the example why I feel Faes gets an unfair ride..

 

Our environment since the Rodgers relegation season isn't conducive to players thriving. JJ needed to move the prosper. Youri needed to move. Barnes tbf has basically been the same. Hamza enjoyed his time at Sheffield Utd. Iversen enjoyed Stoke and Preston..VK enjoyed Italy. Souttar enjoyed Sheffield United. Soumare enjoyed Seville. 

 

There's a stink of death that envelopes the club. 

 

Edit; conversely, having just watched on YouTube spurs v city from 10 years ago, the ultra positive working environment propelled pretty standard players; simmo, Albrighton, shinji,  Fuchs, Ulloa, Kingy into levels they hadn't dreamed of. 

Edited 13 January by Paninistickers

[coolhandfox]

9 minutes ago, ParkerPen said:

I'm glad for the guy he's doing well at Leeds.

 

many more good appearances than bad ones for us

Especially considering all his problems.

[EastAnglianFox]

Leeds have still got a “falling apart” in them this season.

 

It was a solid deal for us and I wish him well but let’s see where he and they are come what May

Edited 13 January by EastAnglianFox

[Nods]

Can everyone chill out? The guy has had a handful of good games. 

 

Better environment and coaching can only help, sure, but we don't need to worry about letting go of the next Cafu, do we?

 

Leeds will hit poor form at some point. Could be this season, could be next. He'll make his first mistake and his brittle confidence will bring out his familiar level. 

 

He had a good patch for us once, too, remember. And he was always a decent finisher even at his worst.

[wallin1704]

Always felt bad for Justin as before the injury and playing left side he was really good for us (even got an England callup).

 

After the injury he just never seemed to regain his confidence and form.

Plus the whole squad / club then decided to go into meltdown and become whatever it is we are currently.

 

He always tried and put a shift in but was glad he left as he clearly needed a fresh start.

 

Hope it goes well for him at Leeds and loved seeing him score against Derby at the weekend 

[SafewayFox]

The amount of revisionism on here, does always make me laugh.

 

JJ was absolutely horrendous last season, you could even argue that he had a purple patch of 7/8 months pre-injury but was then back to his norm.

 

However, totally agree with our players looking unfit, hardly surprising that we rank so poorly in a lot of running/sprint stats.

 

That’s part Marti’s lack/awful tactics but then down to players fitness too.

[Dames]

1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

The amount of revisionism on here, does always make me laugh.

 

JJ was absolutely horrendous last season, you could even argue that he had a purple patch of 7/8 months pre-injury but was then back to his norm.

 

However, totally agree with our players looking unfit, hardly surprising that we rank so poorly in a lot of running/sprint stats.

 

That’s part Marti’s lack/awful tactics but then down to players fitness too.

The only time in the last 6-7 years the team has looked even remotely fit is under Maresca. All that money on Seagrave and we have the laziest unfittest squad season after season. 

[willie-bell-in-rothley]

29 minutes ago, Dames said:

The only time in the last 6-7 years the team has looked even remotely fit is under Maresca. All that money on Seagrave and we have the laziest unfittest squad season after season. 

I can clearly remember Ndidi making 3 or 4 runs in one game under Maresca when he just couldn't do it, the crowd were begging Maresca to take him off but he didn't, so im not sure where you get that from.

[Terraloon]

There are several points I would make around squad quality and yes there are many examples of players either not playing to their potential or certainly not delivering in accord with the wages they are paid but and here’s the but with the very rare exception as the wage bill reduces the reality is that trying to find a gem on a free transfer or on the sort of average wage paid to championship players will inevitably meal that the quality drops.

 

What make LCFC particularly vulnerable is ( and it’s something I keep banging on about ) is the costs the club incurs simply to run the club

 

1) Business Rates. The stadium and two training grounds aren’t thousands of £s they are millions of £s. 
2) Interest payments. When you in effect borrow future income it comes at a cost , a significant one at that, but worse is the PSR implications of owing so much to KP.

3) As I pointed out in another thread the cost of a Cat 1 academy comes at a massive cost and yes academy costs are discounted when it comes FFP/PSR but  the cash to run them still has to be found.

If that accreditation is lost then there is little to no point LCFC having an academy because the big boys will simply pick off any youngsters that show potential and the geographical area that the club can recruit from reduces dramatically.

4) If you go back to the three major sites I mention at 1 ) they need to be kept warm, maintained, staffed, insured etc etc. 

 

My point is that be prepared for the consequences of reducing the sums available and or spent when it comes to players wages, fees paid, coaches, etc particularly when you note that rarely does a Championship player generate decent transfer income.

 

[Muzzy_no7]

40 minutes ago, willie-bell-in-rothley said:

I can clearly remember Ndidi making 3 or 4 runs in one game under Maresca when he just couldn't do it, the crowd were begging Maresca to take him off but he didn't, so im not sure where you get that from.

You watched us consistently over the last 5-6 years? 
 

He’s right in saying the only season where our players have either looked as fit or fitter than the opposition is 23/24. 

[TeamRocket]

19 hours ago, cruzFOX said:

A good coach and a solid back room staff cannot be underestimated! We have not had a top setup since Pearson/ranieri.

why wouldn’t top & rudkin want to return to that template & winning formula that brought us so much success? We have lost our way so much we wouldn’t even know how to find our way back I guess. Still we live in hope 

100% agree. The club has fallen alot more then I think most people could understand because they just expect us to be little old Leicester. I dont think the club even knows its own identity at this moment. We ain't fearless, we ain't 'foxes never quit', and we dont even have the under dog factor anymore. Its honestly depressing.

[willie-bell-in-rothley]

4 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

You watched us consistently over the last 5-6 years? 
 

He’s right in saying the only season where our players have either looked as fit or fitter than the opposition is 23/24. 

yes , only missed a few home and away,  my point stands, ndidi wasnt fit enough.

[Aleksz]

Said at the time he wasn’t one I’d have sold, but we clearly entertained money for whoever was attracting attention (outside of key players). 
 

Fresh start has obviously done him good. 

[Bert]

Pre injury he was good for us. 
 

Last season he was awful, although a lot of the time under Cooper he was really hung out to dry as we were basically playing two left wingers and had next to no help defensively with teams overloading their counter attacks down his side. 
 

He obviously hit his best spell during the time which lead to his England call up, but his injury really killed his time here with us. 

[Aleksz]

16 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

JJ is exactly the example why I feel Faes gets an unfair ride..

 

Our environment since the Rodgers relegation season isn't conducive to players thriving. JJ needed to move the prosper. Youri needed to move. Barnes tbf has basically been the same. Hamza enjoyed his time at Sheffield Utd. Iversen enjoyed Stoke and Preston..VK enjoyed Italy. Souttar enjoyed Sheffield United. Soumare enjoyed Seville. 

 

There's a stink of death that envelopes the club. 

 

Edit; conversely, having just watched on YouTube spurs v city from 10 years ago, the ultra positive working environment propelled pretty standard players; simmo, Albrighton, shinji,  Fuchs, Ulloa, Kingy into levels they hadn't dreamed of. 

I think there’s a difference between those two. JJ got shit for going through periods of playing poorly despite being a decent lad to have around the place, Faes gets shit for playing poorly and being a prized bellend at the same time. JJ might have got and unfair ride, Faes definitely doesn’t. 

[Paninistickers]

1 hour ago, Aleksz said:

being a prized bellend at the same time. J

I've crack handedly tried to make the point on this and other threads, me personally don't know if Faes is a bell end. 

 

I've never seen any evidence that he is.

 

Plenty on here say you can read his body language or that you can see he  'blames others' or that he's arrogant or a bell end .. but, none of those is exactly a smoking gun. 

 

Honestly, to me, he seems a decent enough fella. I mean, I don't know that. That's just me reading his social cues, which obvs might be wildly wrong. 

 

We can agree his time at Leicester has been a disaster for all parties. I just think the club itself is as much to blame for that as Faes. Probably more so. 

[Muzzy_no7]

2 hours ago, willie-bell-in-rothley said:

yes , only missed a few home and away,  my point stands, ndidi wasnt fit enough.

Probably something to do with his real age😂