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Cifuentes OUT

By Bob Weasel Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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HankMarvin

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1 minute ago, dannythefox said:

Oh so your picking 3 players 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you know exactly what I mean unless you’re about 3yrs old. 

They might not be good enough to win the league, but in this shite division they certainly have enough pedigree to be challenging the top 6 with a competent manager 

inckley fox

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4 minutes ago, Noahfence said:

Letting guys like Faes back into the fold really was his downfall. 
 

Would’ve have so much more respect for him if he was strong and banished these guys. 
 

So far the only player that was banished is Ben Nelson bizarrely. 

It may well be that the 'clean slate' approach (which, worryingly, is probably what got him the job in the first place) has done for him. You just don't have that luxury when there's the turnover of managers that we've had. You have to learn from what happened under your predecessor. Are Faes and Winks, among many others, really going to be allowed to get another manager the sack?

 

I think this collapse in form is a nightmare for the board. The plan of action most probably always had one eye on sacking Cifuentes, just not yet. Perhaps the idea would have been to distract from the points deduction by unveiling a significant boardroom overhaul. Then, you leave yourself with one more card up your sleeve before the heat is back on Top - if form is poor, you fire the boss, bankrolling it with a major January sale (Monga or Fatawu, I suspect) which also paves the way for a 7-10m spend.

 

The problem is that January is some way off, the deduction hasn't happened yet, and now the pressure is on the board to play all of their cards at once. If there are more images of Top and Rudkin shoulder to shoulder on the big screen after that, and form doesn't pick up, then no number of interviews, reshuffles and gimmicks will be enough.

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Guest kristianity77

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7 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

in theory yes, but the one i look back at is 14/15 under NP, and that horrible run where we could get a result for love nor money yet we didnt really play bad at all

 

so they dont always go hand in hand

 

but its just a general question because after that second half performance it might give MC some grace, shouldnt though, as we've been shit all season

 

We played half decent in the second half solely because Sheff Utd didnt have to bother getting out of first gear, the game was already won.  Marti or the team get zero credit for that.

 

The downside of us scoring two goals in the second half today is that it might give him more time.  These are the mistakes with managers weve made over and over and over in the past 4 years.  And its why we are now staring down the barrel of a Holloway type season and drifting towards relegation with no brakes applied to stop it

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Guesty

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1 minute ago, BillyFOX12 said:

Should we get Steve Cooper back?

He has Brondby just off top in the Danish league. No way he's coming back here to manage these clowns.

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hejammy

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If he's not sacked after today's defeat I don't think he will until close to the end of the season and if we're in the relegation zone. 

dannythefox

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2 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

They might not be good enough to win the league, but in this shite division they certainly have enough pedigree to be challenging the top 6 with a competent manager 

The biggest issue is keeping the ball out our net. While we’re still playing 3 or 4 who wasn’t good enough 3 or 4 yrs ago we are struggling massively. Get Harry and Nelson fit they’d be my CBs 

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whoareyaaa

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4 minutes ago, hejammy said:

If he's not sacked after today's defeat I don't think he will until close to the end of the season and if we're in the relegation zone. 

sounds familiar 

Fox92

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11 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said:

Should we get Steve Cooper back?

Better manager than ours who’s best achievement is mid table with QPR.

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HankMarvin

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6 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

The biggest issue is keeping the ball out our net. While we’re still playing 3 or 4 who wasn’t good enough 3 or 4 yrs ago we are struggling massively. Get Harry and Nelson fit they’d be my CBs 

No it’s not the biggest issue is 15th for goals scored.

 

scoring goals settles players confidence all over the pitch

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inckley fox

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4 minutes ago, hejammy said:

If he's not sacked after today's defeat I don't think he will until close to the end of the season and if we're in the relegation zone. 

Why do you think that, out of curiosity?

 

If I were on the board, and trying to cover my own back, I'd be looking to see whether a big January sale might bankroll a bit of spending under a higher-profile new boss. I think Cifuentes is 99% a goner already and the board know a managerial change will take the heat off them - if it's at the right time. With a points deduction looming, they'll be able to unveil their upstairs reshuffle to restore a bit of hope, then - come late December - look towards a new appointment as a further means of pacification. If, in the meantime, things miraculously click into place under a boss who looks out of his depth (in an admittedly dire set of circumstances) then all the better.

 

But if they have to do all of these things at once, now, and there's no improvement, you're going to see serious unrest. They don't want all eyes on them this early in the season, with so much time for the outlook to become bleaker. So this collapse may bring things to a head some weeks earlier than they'd have wished.

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Stuntman_Mike

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We obviously have our problems and I'm not saying we should be storming the league, but to be 15th in December and 7 points off relegation with a points deduction looming is absolutely criminal.

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Fox92

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1 minute ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

We obviously have our problems and I'm not saying we should be storming the league, but to be 15th in December and 7 points off relegation with a points deduction looming is absolutely criminal.

He should have gone weeks ago. Terrible manager.

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BigC

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Problem with the likes of Faes and Winks. He wasn't playing them at the start. When they came on in cameo appearances, we tended to play better, particularly on the ball. They get trusted again then let us down (again). 

 

Hopefully the new manager (whenever that happens) realises certain players, like Faes especially, just can't be used except for back-up / last resort. They might have some perceived quality relative to the likes of Skipp etc. but rather have honest pros or guys who care. 

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hejammy

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10 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

Why do you think that, out of curiosity?

 

If I were on the board, and trying to cover my own back, I'd be looking to see whether a big January sale might bankroll a bit of spending under a higher-profile new boss. I think Cifuentes is 99% a goner already and the board know a managerial change will take the heat off them - if it's at the right time. With a points deduction looming, they'll be able to unveil their upstairs reshuffle to restore a bit of hope, then - come late December - look towards a new appointment as a further means of pacification. If, in the meantime, things miraculously click into place under a boss who looks out of his depth (in an admittedly dire set of circumstances) then all the better.

 

But if they have to do all of these things at once, now, and there's no improvement, you're going to see serious unrest. They don't want all eyes on them this early in the season, with so much time for the outlook to become bleaker. So this collapse may bring things to a head some weeks earlier than they'd have wished.

If you really want an answer I'll keep it short and sweet. 

 

It's because the club doesn't know it's arse from it's elbow... 

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Chelmofox

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2 minutes ago, BigC said:

Problem with the likes of Faes and Winks. He wasn't playing them at the start. When they came on in cameo appearances, we tended to play better, particularly on the ball. They get trusted again then let us down (again). 

 

Hopefully the new manager (whenever that happens) realises certain players, like Faes especially, just can't be used except for back-up / last resort. They might have some perceived quality relative to the likes of Skipp etc. but rather have honest pros or guys who care. 

I'm pretty certain he largely dropped Faes. The problem is, Nelson got injured and Okoli got Injured. There is literally no one else to play.

 

Although our number 22 looked like a decent replacement.

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