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12 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

What other candidates are: a) better qualified than Rowett for a Championship relegation scrap; and b) would take the job?

Rowett, over his past 283 champo games (so 7 or 8 seasons), has a win % of 36% and never over 40% during that period.

36% is just a smidge over our current and unprecedentedly dire form and will result in 5 wins from our remaining 14 games and relegation. 

The reason he is well qualified for a relegation scrap is that his win % is a guarantee of a relegation scrap.

Better qualified available coaches who could start immediately with better pedigree who dont just hang around the nether regions of the championship like a vegetarians fart are. 

Dyche

Bruno Lage

Carvalhal

Hassenhutl

 

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, MGLCFC said:

A bit like getting the man sacked by Greece after losing 1 - 0 to the Faroe Islands.

not really. if rowett had ever managed succesfully in the upper reaches of serie a and premier league then maybe. along with about 20 other factors that make it a poor comparison.

 

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13 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

not really. if rowett had ever managed succesfully in the upper reaches of serie a and premier league then maybe. along with about 20 other factors that make it a poor comparison.

 

The comparison is, don't write a bloke off, who has had relative success at Championship level, just because he has been sacked from his last job at a club some consider well below us, just like Greece weren't a fashionable team at international level when Ranieri got sacked after losing to the Faroe Islands. We aren't in a position to attract elite managers anymore.

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56 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

Rowett, over his past 283 champo games (so 7 or 8 seasons), has a win % of 36% and never over 40% during that period.

36% is just a smidge over our current and unprecedentedly dire form and will result in 5 wins from our remaining 14 games and relegation. 

The reason he is well qualified for a relegation scrap is that his win % is a guarantee of a relegation scrap.

Better qualified available coaches who could start immediately with better pedigree who dont just hang around the nether regions of the championship like a vegetarians fart are. 

Dyche

Bruno Lage

Carvalhal

Hassenhutl

 

So you completely ignored the second half of my question? 

Posted
57 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

Rowett, over his past 283 champo games (so 7 or 8 seasons), has a win % of 36% and never over 40% during that period.

36% is just a smidge over our current and unprecedentedly dire form and will result in 5 wins from our remaining 14 games and relegation. 

The reason he is well qualified for a relegation scrap is that his win % is a guarantee of a relegation scrap.

Better qualified available coaches who could start immediately with better pedigree who dont just hang around the nether regions of the championship like a vegetarians fart are. 

Dyche

Bruno Lage

Carvalhal

Hassenhutl

 

The slight problem is that they almost certainly wouldn’t touch us with a barge pole and Rowett would.

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30 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

not really. if rowett had ever managed succesfully in the upper reaches of serie a and premier league then maybe. along with about 20 other factors that make it a poor comparison.

 

But we are not there currently, and have found ourselves shopping in a very different market due to clubs less than stellar board level performance.

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Good luck Gary. You are going to need it. If he can keep us up he will have done his job. Perhaps it is now the time to put aside why Pep did not want the job or we could not prise Klopp from Red Bull and get behind the team. I have been very critical of how the club is being run, but it is part of us all and I want them to stay in this division. Relegation could spell the end for LCFC. I for one don't want that to happen. It starts tomorrow. COYB.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Donwebbio said:

Clear plan for GR and one i really hope he instills:

 

- organised and committed backline with good spacing between players and using whatever pace he can at fullback (Aluko & VK although KV not fast). 

 

Only Nelson to play out from the back.

 

Play Daka to stretch the pitch.

 

Allow the 3 behind Daka to cook (Mukasa, Mav & Abdul).

 

Most of all, players need to be switched on and focused on the game. A lot of these headless chicken moments, red cards, missed tackles I believe are from not being ready to play, a lack of focus. We need 11 players locked in at 12 30pm tomorrow and then each of the last 13 matches after that one. Let's turn this around.

This is a good summary. I think the task (essentially, stop conceding so many goals) suits GR. He's not being asked to build a team, just fix some obvious problems. 

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2 hours ago, FosseSpark said:

Rowett, over his past 283 champo games (so 7 or 8 seasons), has a win % of 36% and never over 40% during that period.

36% is just a smidge over our current and unprecedentedly dire form and will result in 5 wins from our remaining 14 games and relegation. 

The reason he is well qualified for a relegation scrap is that his win % is a guarantee of a relegation scrap.

Better qualified available coaches who could start immediately with better pedigree who dont just hang around the nether regions of the championship like a vegetarians fart are. 

Dyche

Bruno Lage

Carvalhal

Hassenhutl

 

A bit simplistic that win percentage. A 36% win percentage would be fine if accompanied by a 40% draw rate and 24% defeats for example. That would see us on roughly 53 points. 
 

36% wins with 24% draw and 40% defeats would be around 50 points.

 

My point is, it’s as much about minimising defeats and turning defeats into draws. 5 wins (based on 36%) and mostly defeats and we are in a mess. But 5 wins (47 points) and a number of draws rather than defeats and we will clear the points required to stay up. 

Posted
3 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

No way. They are 10 and 11 points ahead of us. I think we’ll be unlikely to reach their current points totals to be honest. Even if we exceed that by a few points, say 5, they would have to pretty much lose every game between now and the end of the season.

 

Anybody above Portsmouth we can not worry ourselves with. Blackburn, West Brom and Portsmouth are the ones to keep an eye on. And Oxford below of course.

I still think it could change quickly and the points needed to stay up will be around 50. 

 

If we are relying on catching Blackburn, West Brom and Portsmouth I would be worried as only West Brom look potentially worse than us. It really depends how much it can be turned around but there is generally always some expected teams getting dragged in towards the end in the championship. 

 

Really we need to win this weekend and that it. 

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1 hour ago, Donwebbio said:

Clear plan for GR and one i really hope he instills:

 

- organised and committed backline with good spacing between players and using whatever pace he can at fullback (Aluko & VK although KV not fast). 

 

Only Nelson to play out from the back.

 

Play Daka to stretch the pitch.

 

Allow the 3 behind Daka to cook (Mukasa, Mav & Abdul).

 

Most of all, players need to be switched on and focused on the game. A lot of these headless chicken moments, red cards, missed tackles I believe are from not being ready to play, a lack of focus. We need 11 players locked in at 12 30pm tomorrow and then each of the last 13 matches after that one. Let's turn this around.

Great post.

 

What those who are doubting him are forgetting is he won’t have had the attacking talent we have at the other clubs he’s managed.

 

If he can tighten us up (a lot) and get the ball to our attackers in good areas we will improve.

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I saw Oxford under Rowett a number of times last season. They were well organised and efficient although not particularly exciting to watch. I saw them defeat Sunderland and Sheffield United at home. No mean feat at that time. Here’s an article about his early time there. Not saying it will work for us but I think it’s a reasonable appointment given the lack of options available.

 


https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/24867801.gary-rowett-changed-fortunes-oxford-united/

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I think too many fans are basing his time at Oxford and reading into that too much. You have to remember Oxford have the weakest squad in the championship as well most likely smallest budget. I did think Pep could not go in there create a miracle. 

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I was having a good day today then I stubbed my toe and it's all King Powers fault.
I'm doubtful it will happen, but I'm just waiting for us to go on an insane run now under GR and for me to be even more pissed off at the incompetent board taking so long to do anything about Marti. We were effectively 10 points off playoffs with half the season to go (including the deduction) and they just had to take the piss allowing MC to stink the place out for 5-10 games too long, then took almost a month to replace him. 

We went from having a mathematical chance of saving ourselves a LOT of pain by looking UP the table and fighting for the playoffs, to now desperately looking over our shoulders at how low we can go if GR doesn't work a miracle. The board seems to think football waits. 

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