Gary Rowett

[Lambert09]

19 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Certainly not got much of a track record of bringing through young players much but hopefully that's circumstantial vs preference. Would be typical of us though to bring in a sporting director who favours a certain way and a manager the other 😂

To be fair to rowett, when he was at Oxford, it wasnt long into his tenure (possibly before he arrived) that Ben Nelson had a bad injury. As soon as Nelson was fit enough to play rowett threw him straight in. Given their situation at the time, it would have been easier to stick with the more experienced cb but he was brave enough to play Ben because of his quality. 
 

I don’t want a manager who plays youth for the sake of it, so hopefully he’s the type that simply will play his best options no matter their age. 

Edited 26 February by Lambert09

[Claudio Fannieri]

9 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

I think he’s sort of hinted that he’s not really going to go with youth for the rest of the season which I probably agree with. It’s just the wrong environment at the moment for them. 

I am a massive advocate for promoting the academy players and giving them 1st team exposure, however I would also tend to agree that now is not the time. I know Mavididi has been poor and not pulling up any trees but when you compare Mukasa’s 5 goal involvements in 3 championship games vs Monga who has 3 in 22 and Page who has 1 in 19 it is a sensible decision. 
 

I am not criticising Monga or Page, who are both unbelievably young to have played the number of games they have, but you can see they are just that bit further behind in their development and physicality so are not having the impact on games or the output that Mukasa is. The experience they have gleamed so far will be huge but I think to rely on them in a relegation battle could do untold damage to both the club and the individual players. 
 

It would be great to see them both get some decent minutes from the bench in games where they can come on against tired legs and positively impact the outcome. 
 

In Aluko’s case I think he will more likely get minutes once Vestergaard or Lascelles return and he can play alongside a more experienced central defender, as currently Okoli and Nelson are both relatively inexperienced to be guiding a young full back through the game, especially at this stage of the season and given our defensive frailty. 

[Ric Flair]

4 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

To be fair to rowett, when he was at Oxford, it was long into his tenure (possibly before he arrived) that Ben Nelson had a bad injury. As soon as Nelson was fit enough to play rowett threw him straight in. Given their situation at the time, it would have been easier to stick with the more experienced cb but he was brave enough to play Ben because of his quality. 
 

I don’t want a manager who plays youth for the sake of it, so hopefully he’s the type that simply will play his best options no matter their age. 

I don't know of many, if any managers willing to do that. There are definitely some braver than others and it's a balance. The problem for us is our experienced / perceived important senior 1st team players have largely been appalling in recent years as well. 

[Guest safetosurfthisbeach]

Really looking forward to this game. It's at least a year since I have been able to say that!

[Xen]

1 hour ago, safetosurfthisbeach said:

Really looking forward to this game. It's at least a year since I have been able to say that!

Apart from the first 6 months of Enzo's Championship season, I don't think I've properly looked forward to any game since the early 22/23 season. It all just went downhill from there - and even winning the Championship last time around we made hard work of it after the strong start.

 

I'm trying not to get carried away, but Rowett is saying all the right things and at least I feel like he wants to get us back on track and instil the right attitudes into the club. Whether or not he's able to is another question (whether that's his ability or due to other aspects of the club...), but I'm cautiously optimistic.

 

We've needed a proper reset for a LONG while, and on a few occasions thought we were getting it but it never really materialised. I think Rowett could build us a Pearson-esque foundation and with better players available than at his previous clubs itd be interesting to see what his ceiling is. The fact that he has a pre-existing connection with the club feels like a positive, too.

[Merchant_Banker]

11 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

"Rowett" is quickly becoming the new Chris Woods isn't it 

Woods or Wood? The goalkeeper or the striker?

[OntarioFox]

12 hours ago, Joe90 said:

Early days but what a breath of fresh air he is compared to our last 2 managers!

Respect for mentally blocking Cooper out of your memory 

[Gamble92]

12 minutes ago, Merchant_Banker said:

Woods or Wood? The goalkeeper or the striker?

Everyone misspelling Rowett is like how everyone put Woods for Wood. 

Edited 26 February by Gamble92

[Merchant_Banker]

1 minute ago, Gamble92 said:

Everyone misspelling Rowett is like how everyone out Woods for Wood. 

I'm giving myself a "Whoosh", I totally missed the point of your comment.

[Joe90]

1 hour ago, OntarioFox said:

Respect for mentally blocking Cooper out of your memory 

Well he is still in there somewhere🤣🤣🤣, but we gotta admit he certainly wasn’t as bad as the last 2 

[Stadt]

9 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

Well he is still in there somewhere🤣🤣🤣, but we gotta admit he certainly wasn’t as bad as the last 2 

He was lucky to be sacked so early. It would have been just as and under him and his shit signings are a big reason we're in this mess

[Gamble92]

21 minutes ago, Stadt said:

He was lucky to be sacked so early. It would have been just as and under him and his shit signings are a big reason we're in this mess

The reprieve Cooper gets by the next two just being a bag of shit is quite an unbelievable level of revisionism even for our fanbase. 

 

Then there's the Red scum who can't compute that the only reason they have ****ing tifos of him sharing space with Brian Clough is because their last 40 years of history are so pitiful. They lost their minds that we could dare to sack him. 

Edited 26 February by Gamble92

[Joe90]

30 minutes ago, Stadt said:

He was lucky to be sacked so early. It would have been just as and under him and his shit signings are a big reason we're in this mess

I personally think your wrong, yea we would of been down the bottom end, but certainly not as bad as RVN 

[DZ-LCFC]

10 hours ago, dillonpanthers87 said:

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good point 

[Stadt]

15 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

I personally think your wrong, yea we would of been down the bottom end, but certainly not as bad as RVN 

The underlying numbers were pretty much the same, it was pretty much only Buonanotte’s purple patch making the results look respectable 

[Les-TA-Jon]

3 hours ago, Xen said:

I'm trying not to get carried away, but Rowett is saying all the right things

Note that Cooper, RVN and Cifuentes were all seen to 'say the right things' when they started too...

[Xen]

14 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Note that Cooper, RVN and Cifuentes were all seen to 'say the right things' when they started too...

Very true. Hence why I'm trying (probably not as succesfully as i'd like) not to get carried away 

 

It feels a bit more substantiated this time. Quite possibly wishful thinking, though...

[Lambert09]

1 hour ago, Joe90 said:

I personally think your wrong, yea we would of been down the bottom end, but certainly not as bad as RVN 

Cooper is far more responsible for our relegation than Ruud, that’s not even a debate. 

[Joe90]

11 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

Cooper is far more responsible for our relegation than Ruud, that’s not even a debate. 

We broke an all time low of a record without scoring a goal at home under RVN! Of course it’s a debate, RVN was dreadful my opinion worse then cooper 

[orangecity23]

Cooper vs Ruud is the difference between losing 2-1 and losing 2-0. They were both shite, just Cooper picked up the occasional consolation goal, which dried up later. At ome point last season, someone on here said "Cooper would have gotten points vs Fulham and Villa" - ignoring the fact he played them both himself. And lost them both. Beyond that, it was people doing extrapolatory fanfiction off the fact Cooper took points vs Ipswich and Southampton, which, as it turns out, so did Ruud, once it was too late. Cooper was absolute dogshit, Ruud was absolute dogshit -. Both were horrific manager choices, and Cooper had the added bonus of inciting Rudkin into one of his worst ever transfer windows in terms of spend versus quality of purchased players.

Edited 26 February by orangecity23

[Clogger_]

3 hours ago, Joe90 said:

Well he is still in there somewhere🤣🤣🤣, but we gotta admit he certainly wasn’t as bad as the last 2 

Rubbish. Cooper was a clueless shocker. That we *absolutely fluked* a few draws didn't change this

[Spudulike]

2 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Note that Cooper, RVN and Cifuentes were all seen to 'say the right things' when they started too...

I had doubts about Cifuentes when he was so keen to quote FNQ and discovering the city, especially the interview on New Walk. Almost to win us over for when it turns to shite.

[Kilworthfox]

 

He speaks well, Good news on JJ & JL.

[Leicesterpool]

To be honest Gary to appears to be enjoying the job. Comparing to the last guy...

[Clever Fox]

3 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

To be honest Gary to appears to be enjoying the job. Comparing to the last guy...

He's certainly a lot more relaxed about the job.