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Posted
47 minutes ago, trooky said:

Yep ****ing clueless, just get the best man for the job to win promotion from league 1 at the first attempt. 

 

- Martin has a win percentage of 38%, 1 promotion in 5 seasons. 

 

- Hake 36% 0 promotion in 10 seasons, and most people have probably never even heard of him, I hadn't. 

 

-Challinor 50%, 7 promotions in 15years and lowest ever finish is 5th

 

Only Top would think of employing the first 2.

Top is only interested in making us bankrupt, and lose his wealth. 

There is no other logical reason for missing out on Challinor. 

 

 

 

Posted
18 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I hope it's Hake, I can't stand Martin and I don't mind him being..

 

 

..Sold down the river.

 

:ph34r:

That joke really didn't deserve a dramatic pause.

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Posted
3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

He probably could if he wanted. The problem is, he won't want to. It is becoming clear that Top has still not let go of his obsession with Man City, and Challinor will not be regarded as being in that mold. Challinor's teams tend to dominate the ball, but he likes to move the ball forward quickly and rejects sterile possession. It seems Top still believes that possession for its own sake is the way to go. Hence why even if Martin rejects us, they probably won't even consider Challinor.

Unfortunately for us. We have an idiot of an owner. And silly yes men to around him, to pander to his out of touch football knowledge. 

We have been in free fall since obsessing over possession play. 

 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, adamkhalifa said:

Unfortunately for us. We have an idiot of an owner. And silly yes men to around him, to pander to his out of touch football knowledge. 

We have been in free fall since obsessing over possession play. 

 

Don't think it's quite as simple as that though - given the transition occurred under Puel (great signings) and Rodgers (our best ever football for first 18 months or so?) 

 

The club is the pits though, for sure. 

Posted (edited)
35 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Don't think it's quite as simple as that though - given the transition occurred under Puel (great signings) and Rodgers (our best ever football for first 18 months or so?) 

 

The club is the pits though, for sure. 

Most modern managers play possession based football now. 

 

Challinor trys to dominate possession 57% + with aggressive pressing to win the ball back in the attacking 3rd.

 

His main difference with Martin is he's not obsessed with the endless passing around defence trying to create positional overlaps in the final 3rd that never transpire because the build up play is so slow. 

 

He's more flexible than Martin, also sees the importance of set pieces, even a 5 year year old could see that Challinor is superior in every aspect to Martin apart from his choice in Women. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Just checking, have we formally parted ways with Rowett yet or are we keeping him around just in case?

Nothing has been said. Presumed to be keeping him in the back pocket when we fail to catch anyone else. 

Posted
29 minutes ago, Libertine said:

I knew you'd get hooked eventually. 

 

That was deliberately shit to make a point. 

 

The fact you were entertained by it says it all. 

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Just checking, have we formally parted ways with Rowett yet or are we keeping him around just in case?

After he has finished his pundit contract at the World Cup, S Gerrard will be announced 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

That was deliberately shit to make a point. 

 

The fact you were entertained by it says it all. 

 

I guess there's a reason you're called Finners.

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Posted (edited)

Now i want to eat fish and chips and it's only 9am and the selections in Canada suck anyways.

 

vvankers! Lol

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, adamkhalifa said:

Top is only interested in making us bankrupt, and lose his wealth. 

There is no other logical reason for missing out on Challinor. 

 

 

 

If I had to guess, its probably because they don't see Challinor being a good fit for the squad profile we will likely have this year.  Challinor is a great promotion specialist, but he isn't known for being a coach that develops younger players. Doesn't mean he can't do it - its just that his teams are generally older. And there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is that Challinor would probably want an older squad for a promotion push with limited resale value and we would end up needing to replace large parts of the team next year if we were promoted.  Mccarron may really want to build around our younger players. And that's the only area Martin would have an advantage: his work with young players. Alot of us want to see the younger players integrated into the team, but you have to have a manager who is interested in that type of rebuild, and you would probably want to hire a manager with experience doing that. Maybe Challinor wouldn't be interested in that type of project. Just some thoughts. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, CarolinaFox said:

If I had to guess, its probably because they don't see Challinor being a good fit for the squad profile we will likely have this year.  Challinor is a great promotion specialist, but he isn't known for being a coach that develops younger players. Doesn't mean he can't do it - its just that his teams are generally older, EFL proven players. And there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is that Challinor would probably want an older squad for a promotion push with limited resale value and we would end up needing to replace large parts of the team next year if we were promoted. And that's the only area Martin would have an advantage: his work with young players. Alot of us want to see the younger players integrated into the team, but you have to have a manager who is interested in that type of rebuild, and you would probably want to hire a manager with experience doing that. Maybe Challinor wouldn't be interested in that type of project. Just some thoughts. 

This hasn't put Top and Rudkin appointing a manager before!

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