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The only vague positive is that we will be linked with players in the summer who I've never heard off, who when they sign will probably be shite.

 

Slightly better I suppose than the last few seasons when we've been linked with players I've heard of, who when they sign I know will definitely be shite.

 

It's not much.

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The only upside for me from a personal point of view is that I can get on a bus literally from my doorstep straight to Oakwell.

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The only positives are more shame and scrutiny being directed at top/rudkin and the way they operate.

Obviously none of that is good for the club but you can't have everything:brendan:

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The "positive" or rather hope around the new DOF/structure is killed immediately when you see the structure set up. 

 

DOF reports into Rudkin, Rudkin into Top (not new CEO). 

 

Current issues (as managers have said) -

 

1. Rudkin very difficult to get a hold of - probably as he is waiting for Top to give him the go ahead. 

2. Top likes to make every decision. 

 

All we have done is created a third branch in the already existing broken structure. It now needs the manager to go through one extra person before a decision is made. Its madness. 

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3 hours ago, davieG said:

Hopefully KPs delusions of grandeur that we can maintain a top 6 position in the PL by splashing out top 6 wages on a mid-table income will be forever gone and that reality smacks them hard across their faces.

I delusion of grandeur that most fans had at the time,  which is why I have a modicom of sympathy with KP.  Don't really care whether they stay or go at this stage,  either way over time the club will recover to be near where they have been for the last 130 odd years.  

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3 hours ago, Tommy G said:

Not really as they will just say ''we are where we are'' and continue to shag KP. You know that will happen!

Just because they can’t see they are completed humiliated, doesn’t mean they aren’t!

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No positives.  
 

The club is too unattractive for anyone to buy.  Seagrave will be sold in the next 12 months and the club won’t exist in the next 24.

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2 hours ago, filbertway said:

I don't really understand what he's done to be a Sporting Director. I feel like we've hired him because he worked for City Group lol

 

Almost all of his jobs have been in sports science/performance. His only role as SD was Lommell who made no real progress in his three years there. Then back to director of player development afterwards which sounds eerily similar to what Rudkin was doing before becoming DoF for us.

 

Don’t get me wrong, I believe McCarron will be a yes man flop.

 

But I would see sports science and performance very much under that remit. They are also areas we need to sort as much as anything. If he could look at that side and work towards something like what we had with Pearson, it’d be long overdue. 

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1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

It's always been my feeling that the two very much didn't see eye to eye. 

 

He was probably all too happy to let Ranieri and later Rogers divert significantly from Pearson's approach. 

 

Pearson would have seen through him that'd be why Rudkin probably doesn't like him.. Yet Rudkin has the career he has because he successfully road the coattails of Pearson's greatness 

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2 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

This is what i thought would happen this season.

 

Genuinely terrifies me that we renew Ayew and give Riccy a 1 year deal because of their experience. Seeing Vestergaard start first game is terrifying too.

It can’t and won’t happen. From our side not only financially but also for the future of the club and both players will not be seen dead playing in league one. Ricardo could easily get a move back home and play top flight there. Ayew will get a contract abroad. Both players will see this as a chance for their last shot at a decent enough 2 year deal. 
 

 

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We’ll still be an attractive club for players to join, so I have no doubts that even with the fire sale and financial constraints we’ll have a fairly decent starting XI. 
Just looking at some of the clubs in the league though, Christ, the likes of Mansfield and Wycombe, plus we’ll be everyone’s cup final. 

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It effectively forces this incompetent ownership to get overpaid, spineless players off the books, and limits their spending capacity to a blueprint that made this club successful, loans, free transfers of players who have a point to prove after failing to make it at bigger clubs, and cheap signings. 

League 1 is essentially going to force the club to re-adopt the Pearson blueprint as we simply cannot afford anything else. 
It might hopefully also force the club to really focus on sustainable promotion, so that if we do go back up, they have an asset to sell. 

We still have issues with players like Kristiansen/BDCR etc still being in contract so we may end up with a few clinging on for dear life, but at the very least it's much harder to make that problem worse now. 

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There isnt really a positive. The big issue is even if all the shit spineless ***** leave this summer. We have the same football operations team to bring in the new players, just from a worse pool of available talent. 

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1 hour ago, Robo61 said:

I delusion of grandeur that most fans had at the time,  which is why I have a modicom of sympathy with KP.  Don't really care whether they stay or go at this stage,  either way over time the club will recover to be near where they have been for the last 130 odd years.  

Well the management ignore the wishes of the fans in many other areas so to excuse them for this is strange.

 

Besides it's the managements job to manage the finance of the club irrespective of whatever pressure may or may not be put on them they've obviously failed to do that.

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4 hours ago, Tommy G said:

Not really as they will just say ''we are where we are'' and continue to shag KP. You know that will happen!

"I want to get closer to you..."

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Reading some of these posts it really does hit home how many of us saw this coming years ago (particularly around contracts and characters) though perhaps not reaching these depths. 
 

I’ve had many people today asking me about it all, and I’ve accepted and come to terms with it to the point where I don’t care and if anything I look forward to the challenge it presents (assuming we don’t go bust). It’s been so obvious for some time, and many of us saw this sort of decline coming years and years ago. I can’t be bothered to dig out mine and others posts/threads, but they exist.
 

I think as well part of me also hopes Aiyawatt stays around in the short term, as he needs to personally cover the losses that he alone is responsible for. If he leaves and we aren’t able to pay the bills (irrespective of PSR breaches) then we really are up shit creek. So is the best outcome he stays to pay for his **** ups and then we go again with new ownership? I’m as KP out as anyone I might add, but just asking the question…

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4 hours ago, Dan said:

KPFC fans were demonstrably humiliated.

 

Or will they try and shift the blame on those who "didn't back the lads"?

 

I can see them trying to say that relegation is what those fans - who dared to criticise the KP clown show (and the players) - wanted. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, filbertway said:

I don't really understand what he's done to be a Sporting Director. I feel like we've hired him because he worked for City Group lol

 

Almost all of his jobs have been in sports science/performance. His only role as SD was Lommell who made no real progress in his three years there. Then back to director of player development afterwards which sounds eerily similar to what Rudkin was doing before becoming DoF for us.

 


 

What don’t you understand regarding why he’s a Sporting Director?? 
 

Is his CV not self explanatory enough for you?

 

I feel looking at his impressive and extensive CV, his trajectory too being an SD looks quite logical no? You don’t just wake up one day and bang you’re a Sporting Director. He’s been head of academy performance at Sunderland, Elite performance manager for the Premier League, head of sports science at Man City, and literally his last 2 roles have been Directors roles one being an actual Sporting Director for a Belgium club and the other a Director role for CFG for player development. All those roles require the behind scenes running of said departments and gaining knowledge and experience of how all departments connect and work together giving him a good insight no doubt into how clubs run.

 

Yet you don’t seem too know what he’s done too get such a role?

 

the mind boggles and sounds like your just wanting too bash him for the sake of doing so.

 

Wether he’s done a good job in those roles is an entirely different question, but that has nothing to do with “not understanding what he’s done” which should really be clear from all of the above.

 

He must be the king of winging it with a CV like that if he’s been a shambles everywhere he’s been.

 

lets not scourge the new guy before he gets a chance, perhaps at my own peril, McCarron is where my last remaining fragmented shred of optimism remains.

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