Well done LCFC on a commendable transfer window

[MPH]

Well, I think it’s fair to say we are all quick to complain when things go wrong at the club. And rightly so.

 

 

but fair dues… I think it’s been a good window as far as transfer business is concerned… they’ve tried hard to shift some deadwood and I think that’s 14 players we have brought in.

 

 

im not suggesting every transfer will be perfect or every player will be of the desired skill we would like them to be, but credit where credit is due, They’ve really given it a good go.

Edited 2 September by MPH

[accessory]

Doesn't quite make up for the previous four or five windows, but the powers-that-be (chiefly McCarron) deserve due credit.

 

 

[Pita]

2 minutes ago, MPH said:

Well, I think it’s fair to say we are all quick to complain when things go wrong at the club. And rightly so.

 

 

but fair dues… I think it’s been a good window as far as transfer business is concerned… they’ve tried hard to shift some deadwood and I think that’s 14 players we have brought it.

 

 

im not suggesting every transfer will be perfect or every player will be of the desired skill we would like them to be, but credit where credit is due, They’ve really given it a good go.

Best window in years.  Very nearly drained the swamp. Great attempt by the club

[MPH]

Just now, accessory said:

Doesn't quite make up for the previous four or five windows, but the powers-that-be (chiefly McCarron) deserve due credit.

 

 

Yeah that’s a totally fair comment, definitely giving McCarron the credit for this one.

[Samilktray]

Going a bit overboard with this

[CrazyKopCorner]

A lot more dynamic and have identified and got rid of the deadwood and have at least tried to strengthen in the right areas. 

 

Juror out on a few incomings but in the pond we're fishing you're always likely to catch a few 2 pound black ribbed knobblers 

[Les-TA-Jon]

 

On paper, it's a very good window. 

• Released or terminated all the dross
• Loaned out some of the unsellable players like Mavididi and Skipp
• Good developmental loans for some youngsters
• Decent fees for Fatawu, BEK, Monga
• Avoided losses on Choudhury and Winks
• Sold some of the youth that were unlikely to ever break through
• Incomings - a bit harder to judge since most of them need more time - but no obviously bad ones (other than maybe Cullen, given the fee paid?)
• But we've ultimately signed in the positions we needed too

 

Hopefully some loans for Okoli and Coulibaly and maybe Faes (or termination)

Edited 2 September by Les-TA-Jon

[HankMarvin]

Just now, Les-TA-Jon said:

Decent fees for Fatawu, BEK, Monga

Hmmm £42m for all three Bilal could surpass that on his own after one season

[StriderHiryu]

I don't fully agree. A lot of players have gone, but those were the ones whose contracts expired. Faes is still here, Mavididi and Skipp have left but only on loan and still will be here. 

 

As for players brought in, we have brought a ton of duffers from the Championship and jobs for the boys for Russell Martin. Liam Cullen is doing his best to impersonate Casper the Ghost and the Ipswich lads have been massively underwhelming at best. This is whilst we have sold some of the "crown jewels" of the academy in Jeremy Monga and Darren Motsi. 

 

I think we will win the division and will get promoted comfortably. But then the parachute payments run out and we will be left with a lot of older players who are likely going to be past their sell by date in the Championship. 

 

Our best players this season have been the academy graduates; Jayden Joseph, Sammy Braybrooke, Will Alves and Louis Page. So maybe instead of signing players like Cullen and Burns, we could have given minutes to Jake Evans and Kirsten Otchere instead?

 

Overall I would say the window has exceeded my expectations, but as I say, I won't be truly convinced till next season in terms of how good it was or wasn't. 

[Stadt]

People were quite triumphant about the last summer window, giving 8 or 9/10.

 

It remains to be seen how good a window it is, we’re light in a few areas. Chiefly at CM, if Page or Braybrooke get injured all of a sudden we’re lacking technical ability centrally.

I have a nagging doubt in 2028/2029/2030 the Burns, Cullen and maybe the Riis deal start to look poor business.

 

Shifting Winks, Vestergaard, Mavididi, Kristiansen and so is great though, does feel  refreshing.

[Les-TA-Jon]

2 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Hmmm £42m for all three Bilal could surpass that on his own after one season

you can pick a number from somewhere that's bigger than what we got and use that to say 'it's a bad sale' - but on what basis 'should' we have got £42m+ for BEK? 

[Les-TA-Jon]

1 minute ago, Stadt said:

People were quite triumphant about the last summer window, giving 8 or 9/10.

 

It remains to be seen how good a window it is, we’re light in a few areas. Chiefly at CM, if Page or Braybrooke get injured all of a sudden we’re lacking technical ability centrally.

I have a nagging doubt in 2028/2029/2030 the Burns, Cullen and maybe the Riis deal start to look poor business.

 

Shifting Winks, Vestergaard, Mavididi, Kristiansen and so is great though, does feel  refreshing.

Our recruitment has been so bad for so long it's hard to be fully positive about any incomings - because we don't know if they're just going to be the next crop of players we grow to hate like Okoli, Faes, Vestergaard, Skipp etc 

 

But this time round, at least, we haven't spent £40m+ on them!

[James_lcfc]

Done well to get some players out to be fair.

 

No idea if it's been a good window or not though - Will let you know in about 30 games time! 

[Stadt]

Just now, Les-TA-Jon said:

Our recruitment has been so bad for so long it's hard to be fully positive about any incomings - because we don't know if they're just going to be the next crop of players we grow to hate like Okoli, Faes, Vestergaard, Skipp etc 

 

But this time round, at least, we haven't spent £40m+ on them!

I agree, there are some green shoots but I don’t think we should count our chickens.

 

Relatively we have spent a lot of money for this level and for our financial position. Riis, Cullen, Kangasniemi and Bristric is pretty hefty. I’d imagine only Wrexham and Birmingham have spent more over the past few seasons.

[Rubbersoul]

How much have we actually spent? Got to be about £5m right? 
 

[HankMarvin]

3 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

you can pick a number from somewhere that's bigger than what we got and use that to say 'it's a bad sale' - but on what basis 'should' we have got £42m+ for BEK? 

It just got offered 12 months later, Stuggart wanted £65m after one season does that point to us undervaluing him, yes 

 
I was highlighted it’s the value of all three received, as opposed to one player. 

If you think they are decent fees great 

[CosbehFox]

23 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Going a bit overboard with this

Just a bit considering the impact made by the signings has been minimal at best. In the case of a couple looking worrying past their best. 

[Merchant_Banker]

In answer to the OP:-

 

McCarthy

Joseph

Souttar

O’Hora

McFarlane

Page

Braybrooke

Howell

Chaplin

Alves

Riis

Would have had Stolarcyk before injury and based on comments about O’Hora and Riis.

 

[Les-TA-Jon]

3 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Relatively we have spent a lot of money for this level and for our financial position. Riis, Cullen, Kangasniemi and Bristric is pretty hefty. I’d imagine only Wrexham and Birmingham have spent more over the past few seasons.

 

3 minutes ago, Rubbersoul said:

How much have we actually spent? Got to be about £5m right? 

Hard to tell. 

• O'Hara - £0.4m
• Kangasniemi £2m
• Burns £75,000
• Cullen £2m
• Bristric £1m
• Riis - some say £2m, others say £4m

Approx £7-9m on fees paid?

 

Around £2m added to yearly amortisation. And of courses, lots of sales not accounted for 

 

[The whole world smiles]

28 minutes ago, accessory said:

Doesn't quite make up for the previous four or five windows, but the powers-that-be (chiefly McCarron) deserve due credit.

 

 

Always makes me laugh that everything that goes badly rudkin gets the blame and everything that goes right is always attributed to someone else! 

 

It's partly his fault because he has never given interviews and that has let fans make their own narrative up.

 

but the mental gymnastics required to think he is zero percent responsible for everything that went right in the last 12 years and 100 percent responsible for everything that's gone wrong is absolutely wild! 

[Stadt]

4 hours ago, The whole world smiles said:

Always makes me laugh that everything that goes badly rudkin gets the blame and everything that goes right is always attributed to someone else! 

 

It's partly his fault because he has never given interviews and that has let fans make their own narrative up.

 

but the mental gymnastics required to think he is zero percent responsible for everything that went right in the last 12 years and 100 percent responsible for everything that's gone wrong is absolutely wild! 

We have our best outgoing window in years just as we appoint an actual DoF? Crazy I know, what a coincidence!

Edited 2 September by Stadt

[lgfualol]

It was about time they put some effort in after years of messing about during transfer windows. 

[RoboFox]

Well done to the arsonist for doing a good job of putting the fire out despite spending three years pouring petrol all over the house.

[StanSP]

Rudkin having less of a say is clearly making a difference. 

 

I think praise for the window is on ice for me currently. It depends how they bed in and what results are like on the pitch. Currently not sold on Cullen and Burns, latter especially. 

 

But the signs are there that we are making improvements. One of the better parts of the window is allowing youngsters to shine - Alves, Braybrooke, Page and Joseph staying are just as good as the best signing we make.

[Merchant_Banker]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

Rudkin having less of a say is clearly making a difference. 

 

I think praise for the window is on ice for me currently. It depends how they bed in and what results are like on the pitch. Currently not sold on Cullen and Burns, latter especially. 

 

But the signs are there that we are making improvements. One of the better parts of the window is allowing youngsters to shine - Alves, Braybrooke, Page and Joseph staying are just as good as the best signing we make.

I think it’s unfair to judge a window on how they bed in, no one can know that at the time of the transfer. You can only acquire players who have the right attitude and potential, in the right position with the right skills at the right price. We seem to have done most of that. How they go from here is unknown.