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4 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

Honestly staggering to lose that. Were Yorkshire 23-4? The Notts game too. 
 

It feels like we never win the daft games, we only throw them away. 
 

Didn’t deserve to go through. 

Yup, we are the ones that turn them into daft games. Should have qualified. Poor really. Season just going off rails a little. Everyone will say I’m getting ahead of myself but that middlesex loss has knocked us 

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Disappointing to lose and again, a game we ultimately should never have lost. 20 Runs short with the bat again and loose bowling when they thought they had the game wrapped up. Luckily for us it’s turned out to be a dead rubber but really we could and should’ve easily qualified. There were only 3 games in the whole group that we weren’t in. We should have never lost against Notts, Worcester and tonight. Those 3 wins see us through. Enjoyed the campaign still - looking forward to the 50 over now. 

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53 minutes ago, Angus Scott said:

That game just summed up this T20 campaign. We should have qualified easily but too many games thrown away, no other team would have lost tonight's or the Notts games.

 

Very poor captain & very poor overseas recruit cost us dearly. Sort that out for next season & we may be in business. Very disappointing

Yep make Cox or Rehan captain and get a decent all rounder overseas I reckon. 

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Laughing stock of the competition! What an absolute disgrace!!! No one else would lose that game. Kimber is the most useless captain in t20 history and talks like he's got half a cabbage in his mouth. Oh and whilst I'm on a rant, at least that fat chequed suited fraud Jarvis is going at the end of the season! 

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2 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Yep make Cox or Rehan captain and get a decent all rounder overseas I reckon. 

On the whole Van Beek has been ok. Started off really well but then seemed to get a bit more expensive with the ball and less runs with the bat as the campaign went on. Overall really disappointed with Masood as well. Was chuffed when we signed him but he had about 2 good games for us. 

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Masood terrible really for what he was signed to do, and the Kimber captaincy experiment seemingly failed. But does seem harsh to be overly critical of the current set up overall with us actually being competitive across all formats.

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10 hours ago, Walshy5 said:

Laughing stock of the competition! What an absolute disgrace!!! No one else would lose that game. Kimber is the most useless captain in t20 history and talks like he's got half a cabbage in his mouth. Oh and whilst I'm on a rant, at least that fat chequed suited fraud Jarvis is going at the end of the season! 

Agree with you about Jarvis also vastly need to improve the stream the picture quality is terrible compared other Counties and they have problems with sound just about every match it went after about 5 overs 

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What a disappointing end to the t20 campaign.

 

Kimber as captain didn't really work, too many bowling changes especially which just didn't make sense. He's in the side to go slog city with the bat and he averaged 23 with 1 50 which was his high score at 51. At a good rate of 180 but he'd have wanted more than 250 odd runs

 

Budinger was leading run scorer with 378 at 27.5 and a s/r of 163. 3 50s though didn't go on past 56. Good work though and next season he should look to build on that with some bigger scores hopefully.

 

Rehan and Cox contributed very well also but Masood's contribution was modest for an o/s and Hill and Patel both had poor returns.

 

Nobody else really did much and I think we missed Ben Mike down at 6 or 7 going slog city.

 

Key for me is that our only score over 60 was Cox's 70*. Nobody else got out of the 50s. Next season we need better than that as really in this format it's those big knocks that can win you a game and take the pressure off others.

 

Bowling numbers are generally pretty excellent to be fair can't really criticise anyone. Wood and Walker took a bit of tap but your weakest bowler will always get targeted and everyone else had respectable numbers over the course.

 

We need to go for a Breetzke or a hitter of that ilk to partner Budinger up top next season. Something like:

 

O/S hitter

Budinger

Ahmed

Patel

Kimber

Cox

Mike

Trevaskis/Holland

O/S bowling A/R

Scriven

Hull

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Brain dead cricket at times throughout the T20 comp, yesterday a classic example, not batting the full 20 and putting 200+ on the board was criminal and as for the bowling 😩.

Too much muddled thinking on field and probably over thinking off it by the coach. 

We should have qualified comfortably and yet found a way to lose games we were controlling. 

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Put it aside and concentrate on not losing in the CC and we win the 2nd division.

 

With a fresh and ready to go captain.

 

And our best player back in Holland.

 

Id give Van Beek a rest for a couple of the 50 over matches. Hes played a lot. And everyone's now back fit.

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1 hour ago, CrawlingFox said:

What a disappointing end to the t20 campaign.

 

Kimber as captain didn't really work, too many bowling changes especially which just didn't make sense. He's in the side to go slog city with the bat and he averaged 23 with 1 50 which was his high score at 51. At a good rate of 180 but he'd have wanted more than 250 odd runs

 

Budinger was leading run scorer with 378 at 27.5 and a s/r of 163. 3 50s though didn't go on past 56. Good work though and next season he should look to build on that with some bigger scores hopefully.

 

Rehan and Cox contributed very well also but Masood's contribution was modest for an o/s and Hill and Patel both had poor returns.

 

Nobody else really did much and I think we missed Ben Mike down at 6 or 7 going slog city.

 

Key for me is that our only score over 60 was Cox's 70*. Nobody else got out of the 50s. Next season we need better than that as really in this format it's those big knocks that can win you a game and take the pressure off others.

 

Bowling numbers are generally pretty excellent to be fair can't really criticise anyone. Wood and Walker took a bit of tap but your weakest bowler will always get targeted and everyone else had respectable numbers over the course.

 

We need to go for a Breetzke or a hitter of that ilk to partner Budinger up top next season. Something like:

 

O/S hitter

Budinger

Ahmed

Patel

Kimber

Cox

Mike

Trevaskis/Holland

O/S bowling A/R

Scriven

Hull

Not sure we need an overseas "hitter". As shown yesterday, we need(ed) an experienced head coming in at 3/4 to anchor an innings with an assertive 60-70. Basically what we hired Masood for, if he'd done his job properly. We seemed short of batting options this year (and still do). Bowling was inconsistent all year; difficult to think of anyone who had two good, consecutive T20 games. People like Salisbury started well but then seemed to be sussed out by the opposition, and discarded. Hull has not yet shown much evidence of being an economical bowler in any format, and should not be bowling at the death.

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37 minutes ago, HaroldBazBo said:

Put it aside and concentrate on not losing in the CC and we win the 2nd division.

 

With a fresh and ready to go captain.

 

And our best player back in Holland.

 

Id give Van Beek a rest for a couple of the 50 over matches. Hes played a lot. And everyone's now back fit.

We should have options for pace right?

 

Van Beek, Holland, Scriven, Mike, Wright, Walker, Salisbury, Wood and A.Green? Maybe even Hull back here and there if he isn't playing crisp cricket.

 

10 options so rotation definitly doable.

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Watching the Derby stream last night didn't know Fletch dislikes the foxes almost as much as Notts.Said on comms  thank god  Mulder declared never want anyone associated with Leicester breaking a test record. Shame used to like him

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2 minutes ago, Zorrovolpe said:

Not sure we need an overseas "hitter". As shown yesterday, we need(ed) an experienced head coming in at 3/4 to anchor an innings with an assertive 60-70. Basically what we hired Masood for, if he'd done his job properly. We seemed short of batting options this year (and still do). Bowling was inconsistent all year; difficult to think of anyone who had two good, consecutive T20 games. People like Salisbury started well but then seemed to be sussed out by the opposition, and discarded. Hull has not yet shown much evidence of being an economical bowler in any format, and should not be bowling at the death.

I disagree, bowlers will always look somewhat inconsistent in this format - it's the nature of it, sometimes someone in form is just going to take you to slog city. I'm not excusing them from the odd strange decision or poor spell but if you look at economy rates over the duration:

 

Holland: 4.75

Mike: 7.87

Van Beek: 8.96

Kimber: 8.73

Hull: 8.45

Thomas: 8.66

Ahmed: 9

Walker: 9.55

Scrivo: 7.86

Trevaskis: 7.81

Wood: 9.68

Salisbury: 8.95

 

The game is evolving and an average economy under 9 is decent these days so not too much to fault.

 

Our batting let us down. I also disagree we need an 'anchor', that role is gone these days, it's all about hitting as average scores creep nearer 200. My view is Patel can come in at 4 and play whatever role needed with the pressure of opening off his shoulders - bring in a slog city merchant up top. 28 players scored more runs than our leading run scorer and about 20 or just under are openers. Thats where we need more runs - up top to take pressure off those further down and pile more on the opposition bowlers.

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2 hours ago, CrawlingFox said:

I disagree, bowlers will always look somewhat inconsistent in this format - it's the nature of it, sometimes someone in form is just going to take you to slog city. I'm not excusing them from the odd strange decision or poor spell but if you look at economy rates over the duration:

 

Holland: 4.75

Mike: 7.87

Van Beek: 8.96

Kimber: 8.73

Hull: 8.45

Thomas: 8.66

Ahmed: 9

Walker: 9.55

Scrivo: 7.86

Trevaskis: 7.81

Wood: 9.68

Salisbury: 8.95

 

The game is evolving and an average economy under 9 is decent these days so not too much to fault.

 

Our batting let us down. I also disagree we need an 'anchor', that role is gone these days, it's all about hitting as average scores creep nearer 200. My view is Patel can come in at 4 and play whatever role needed with the pressure of opening off his shoulders - bring in a slog city merchant up top. 28 players scored more runs than our leading run scorer and about 20 or just under are openers. Thats where we need more runs - up top to take pressure off those further down and pile more on the opposition bowlers.

I agree that a gun T20 specialist batsman eg Inglis is what we need next year. Northants have done this successfully with the likes of Lynn and Breetzke, so it shows smaller counties can attract players like this. It always felt like we were a batsman short this season, to be honest, especially with Patel's form being so poor. I really like Cox but I don't think he'd be coming in at 5 for other counties. It's telling that we didn't post 200 in any innings, even though the dry sunny weather has meant that wickets are good and outfields have been lightening fast. 

 

Injuries/ absences in the bowling attack have also been a problem. Rehan and Hull were unable to bowl in most of the games and were rusty when they did come back in the last few games. Holland showed what we've been missing from him last night and Mike has also hardly played. The likes of Walker and Salisbury are just not really up to it. 

 

Despite all of that, we still might have qualified had we had a competent captain. Kimber was so poor in his decision making for the most part, which cost us badly in several games where bowlers, who had been the most economical on the day, did not bowl their full allocation, in favour of others who had gone round the park. 

 

Overall, I still enjoyed the campaign and we were competitive in all but a couple of games. But ultimately we didn't quite have enough to deserve to qualify. 

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6 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

I agree that a gun T20 specialist batsman eg Inglis is what we need next year. Northants have done this successfully with the likes of Lynn and Breetzke, so it shows smaller counties can attract players like this. It always felt like we were a batsman short this season, to be honest, especially with Patel's form being so poor. I really like Cox but I don't think he'd be coming in at 5 for other counties. It's telling that we didn't post 200 in any innings, even though the dry sunny weather has meant that wickets are good and outfields have been lightening fast. 

 

Injuries/ absences in the bowling attack have also been a problem. Rehan and Hull were unable to bowl in most of the games and were rusty when they did come back in the last few games. Holland showed what we've been missing from him last night and Mike has also hardly played. The likes of Walker and Salisbury are just not really up to it. 

 

Despite all of that, we still might have qualified had we had a competent captain. Kimber was so poor in his decision making for the most part, which cost us badly in several games where bowlers, who had been the most economical on the day, did not bowl their full allocation, in favour of others who had gone round the park. 

 

Overall, I still enjoyed the campaign and we were competitive in all but a couple of games. But ultimately we didn't quite have enough to deserve to qualify. 

Inglis won games on his own getting those 5 or 6 big scores that as CrawlingFox mentions, only Ben Cox got. In hindsight, it may be that Masood is more on the downslope in terms of ability, though I'm sure he is contributing plenty in terms of experience.

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4 hours ago, everton carr said:

Watching the Derby stream last night didn't know Fletch dislikes the foxes almost as much as Notts.Said on comms  thank god  Mulder declared never want anyone associated with Leicester breaking a test record. Shame used to like him

Guessing that was a bit tongue in cheek. The other week he was saying us and Derbyshire going up would be the ECB's worst nightmare.

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Bit on the potential Somerset signings in the Cricketer:

 

"Somerset allrounder Ben Green has returned to Leicestershire on loan for the Division Two table-toppers' next two County Championship fixtures.

Green has been ever-present for Alfonso Thomas' side in red-ball cricket so far this summer despite being under contract with Somerset. He also played every game during the T20 Blast group stage for his parent county, claiming 16 wickets and averaging 38.2 with the bat.

It is understood, though, that he is increasingly likely to join Leicestershire on a permanent basis for next season and beyond. Josh Davey, his Somerset teammate, is also believed to be closing in on a move to Leicestershire. Davey, too, has spent time on loan at Grace Road in the past."

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