Steven Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I can't work it out either... I keep meaning to watch him closely to see if he's as good as thrac says. But I just never see him, i think he sneaks off and hides in the toilets when the match starts. Babs. King breaks up so many attacks and nearly always passes to a player with some time and space. Oakley was the weak link tonight in midfield.
BedsFox Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 This.But that is no bad thing. He goes around his business quietly and effectively. One great cross field pass to Waghorn first half, and the shot near the end Aside from that did the job quietly but looking closely he is always snuffing out attacks and back helping the back four Really has a great "engine" which Oakley for one now lacks
samuel Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 Allah wept!!!Hope your Mum/Wife/girlfriend/Boyfriend takes away all the knives from the kitchen!!! Raj. I would imagine even you couldn't agree that chancing your arm will not pay dividends in this division? I hate to admit it but Reading fans will feel like they were anally raped this evening, Leicester put up nothing except a basic defensive display, Hobbs being the main culprit! You cannot rely on others' inability to score to win a game. You have to offer something. Leicester offered nothing in respect of competition tonight, it was embarrasing. Tonight WAS a night to start Howard, it was apparent from Weale's first kick! IF QPR had watched this game, then they would score 7!. As it is , without Howard and Waghorn/Campbell starting, Leicester will offer nothing!
Bluefoxtim Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I didn't notice King once tonight bar his effort at the end. Solid performance by all, although McGivern looked a bit uneasy, but maybe we are being harsh as the two guys on the wing looked decent.
Jodranadinho Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I think after that display leicester have work to do before friday. a rather solid defensive display tonight, but with the likes of routledge for QPR it will only be a matter of time before they break us down. Wayne Brown a rock in defence as usual, suprisingly for me I think that Neilson had a pretty decent game and his throws are always nice to turn to if we need to relief the pressure. As for the midfield, many people are saying king was non-exsistent, but I think he played a very quiet tidy role for us against constant Reading pressure, Oakley for me was the weak link tonight with sloppy passes all night long. front two did as much as they could really no real ball to feed off, only criticism for fryatt is that he gets into great positions but when he's one on one he was awful with two clear cut chances. overall we got the three points tonight, deserved? I think not, never the less up the city!
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 God we're fecking boring to watch sometimes aren't we. As much as I am happy that we've won, could we not try to be that little bit more entertaing when the nation is watching?
ibbosuk Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 An absolutely appaling show of Football.I know the cameras aren't kind to Leicester but Fook me! McGivern was dire! Weale did what was asked nicely. Wellens is not what everyone thinks. Oakley doesn't do corners. Fryatt cannot do one on ones and needs to admit he shouldn't be a banker to start! Neilson is very basic! King is a division too high! Waghorn has a little potential, not sure Sunderland will keep him! Gallagher should not be on the wing! Brown is the only reason we are deceiving! Hobbs shows why Liverpool cashed in, not a chance in the Premiership!. Campbell is a speed apart and isn't as offside as we all think! Howard must wonder why even without him, we play as if he was on the pitch! Well that was a result and a half wasn't it? The same as Blackpool, drew strength from another teams inability to score. I hope at some point soon we start to play because Nothing saps the utopian feeling we are all feeling now, that a footballing lesson!. And QPR Will dish out that lesson! What a very good post, just about sums our side up, and gives a very accurate assessment of the reality of where we really are.
Legend_in_blue Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 Raj.I would imagine even you couldn't agree that chancing your arm will not pay dividends in this division? I hate to admit it but Reading fans will feel like they were anally raped this evening, Leicester put up nothing except a basic defensive display, Hobbs being the main culprit! You cannot rely on others' inability to score to win a game. You have to offer something. Leicester offered nothing in respect of competition tonight, it was embarrasing. Tonight WAS a night to start Howard, it was apparent from Weale's first kick! IF QPR had watched this game, then they would score 7!. As it is , without Howard and Waghorn/Campbell starting, Leicester will offer nothing! This is nonsense. We could have offered something, but we didn't need to. We showed in spells that we were more than capable of scoring at least 4 or 5 but we couldn't be bothered to. Why huff and puff about when you can easily control a game without needing to go all out in attacking play. It was the perfect away performance. Save the attacking, high tempo display for Friday. This was all about grinding out a win against a tin pot club which we did.
Raj Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 Raj.I would imagine even you couldn't agree that chancing your arm will not pay dividends in this division? I hate to admit it but Reading fans will feel like they were anally raped this evening, Leicester put up nothing except a basic defensive display, Hobbs being the main culprit! You cannot rely on others' inability to score to win a game. You have to offer something. Leicester offered nothing in respect of competition tonight, it was embarrasing. Tonight WAS a night to start Howard, it was apparent from Weale's first kick! IF QPR had watched this game, then they would score 7!. As it is , without Howard and Waghorn/Campbell starting, Leicester will offer nothing! I realise we arent playing Arsenalesque football. Its not pretty on the eye. But ive seen many a season of shite Coupled with Shite results. At the moment this youngish team is getting the results without playing well. There are about 15 teams who'd LOVE to be in our position. All this taking into account that we have not had such a good start in this league for many many years. Let the players believe that they can get some good results in this league,let them gain confidence,let the manager feel he can be a little more adventurous without the risk of losing 2 games in a row and getting the scak. I ifnd it great that we are actually trying to build foundations with results and confidence as im sure this will breed a better style of play. If not,i hope we can still play crap and win!!!
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 This is nonsense. We could have offered something, but we didn't need to. We showed in spells that we were more than capable of scoring at least 4 or 5 but we couldn't be bothered to. Why huff and puff about when you can easily control a game without needing to go all out in attacking play. It was the perfect away performance. Save the attacking, high tempo display for Friday. This was all about grinding out a win against a tin pot club which we did. I'd be concerned about us if I thought for even one second this was the case, but clearly it is not - don't talk out of your bum! Reading had around 60% of the ball because they were able to pass it on the deck and we were playing hoof ball to two midgits for 60 minutes. Was your initial statement meant as a heading for the rest of your post?
Ozwin Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I'd like to say it's a sign of a good side that we play badly and still win but Reading were just abysmal. Hopefully we up our game like we do so often often against the better sides, ie QPR.
lcfcadam Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I watched the whole thing a tad drunk but the only major issue I noticed was McGivern not being as good as Berner. So why not just stick with the Swissman?
Bryn Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I can't believe Thracian is happy with that performance Don't get me wrong, I'm delighted, but I really was expecting him to be pissed! Scrappiest game you will ever see, that, ultimate smash and grab. Reading are desperately unlucky but their problems are there to see. Woeful finishing. Atrocious defending. And possibly the most discernable lack of fitness I've ever seen in a football team, by the 60th minute they were absolutely frigged, only McAnuff (I think, the right winger) was still going. I didn't think we were defending badly to be honest. In the first half we just didn't have control of the midfield at all - this was remedied in the second half when their central midfielders were mysteriously set in stone, or so it seemed, never have I seen two midfielders so completely unable to last the pace. Can think of one definite moment at least where they could have won the game by running in onto a second ball in our box. McGivern looked inexperienced but he has the raw attributes to be a decent fullback, I much prefer Berner though, he looked very sharp when he came on too. I think Neilson was pretty good tbh, a very committed and solid defender who I can remember being quite involved in an attacking sense too. Weale was excellent, I still can't believe the amount of people who thought he was going to be backup DJ Campbell remains an incredibly limited footballer. Fryatt has great technical finishing ability but is slightly lacking the presence of mind to know exactly what finish to use. Howard looks good for the 30mins at the end, doubt he could last 90. Great header from Waghorn. Think our weakest area was in midfield, don't think they had it at all til the opposition tired. I'm really, really trying to remember King doing something, but I can't - think I will actually try and look up his stats cause I'm gonna assume he was doing SOMETHING even if I can't remember it. I think Pearson's formation probably got us the win but it was so frustrating to watch us without any outlets on the wings. Gallagher is such a striker.
scinnell Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 The problem is Fryatt. Stevie and DJ are trying to hard to score
Raj Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I watched the whole thing a tad drunk but the only major issue I noticed was McGivern not being as good as Berner. So why not just stick with the Swissman? MIGHT IT HAVE OWT TO DO WITH HIS LOAN SPELLL...Shit sorry about the caps... Sometimes you feel obliged to use a player on loan else you wot get anymore players from his club Dont know how long we have him for. But for me Bruno has done no wrong and shouldnt be dropped.
Thracian Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 This doesn't look too bad: Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS 1 Newcastle 14 5 2 0 11 3 3 1 3 10 6 12 27 2 Cardiff 14 4 1 2 16 5 4 1 2 14 10 15 26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 West Brom 14 4 1 2 12 6 3 3 1 12 7 11 25 4 Middlesbrough 14 3 1 3 7 8 4 2 1 15 7 7 24 5 Leicester 14 4 2 1 9 5 2 4 1 7 6 5 24 6 Bristol City 14 5 2 0 11 4 1 4 2 6 9 4 24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 QPR 13 3 3 0 16 6 3 2 2 9 7 12 23 8 Blackpool 14 5 2 0 13 2 1 3 3 6 11 6 23 9 Preston 14 3 3 1 12 8 3 2 2 10 11 3 23 10 Nottm Forest 14 4 0 3 9 8 2 5 0 7 5 3 23 11 Watford 14 2 3 2 13 14 3 3 1 9 7 1 21 12 Swansea 14 2 4 1 5 5 2 3 2 4 5 -1 19 13 Sheff Utd 14 2 4 1 15 13 2 1 4 8 12 -2 17 14 Crystal Palace 13 2 3 2 7 9 2 2 2 6 6 -2 17 15 Coventry 14 2 4 1 9 8 2 1 4 7 12 -4 17 16 S****horpe 14 4 1 2 13 10 1 1 5 6 16 -7 17 17 Sheff Wed 14 3 2 2 14 9 1 2 4 7 13 -1 16 18 Doncaster 14 2 4 1 9 6 0 4 3 6 11 -2 14 19 Derby 14 4 0 3 12 10 0 2 5 5 15 -8 14 20 Barnsley 14 2 1 4 8 13 2 1 4 8 12 -9 14 21 Peterborough 14 2 2 3 12 11 0 3 4 5 12 -6 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 Reading 14 0 3 4 2 8 2 1 4 9 15 -12 10 23 Plymouth 14 1 2 4 6 11 1 1 5 7 15 -13 9 24 Ipswich 14 0 5 2 5 11 0 3 4 10 16 -12 8
sdb Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I think the general consensus on here is pretty harsh - we looked ok tonight for me, only McGivern looked poor but he was up against a lot of their play. Perhaps a more robust holding player but we looked decent going forward and made some good chances. And we WON!! Chin up!!
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I realy can see us getting something from QPR. As long as we are good at the back we can go anywhere and nick 1-0. I think Berner has to start as his experience is needed agaisnt Routledge whilst I think i would drop Fryatt as he has been since Watford now.
chesterfox Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 One or two points for all the cheery folk this division is shit and every game is a battle we play again on Friday v QPR we won - with minimum effort this division is not the place for pretty football(especially if we're as bad as some will have you believe) there are 17 clubs who would rather be in our position this division is shit and we couldnt stay in it a couple of years ago we win, are in 5th and yet some people would have you think we are doomed - we do not have a God given right to be in the Prem nor here tbh - we have to work for every progression NP gets us winning and in a similar way to MoN every time we have a poor result we follow it up with a good one
Raj Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 This doesn't look too bad: Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS 1 Newcastle 14 5 2 0 11 3 3 1 3 10 6 12 27 2 Cardiff 14 4 1 2 16 5 4 1 2 14 10 15 26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 West Brom 14 4 1 2 12 6 3 3 1 12 7 11 25 4 Middlesbrough 14 3 1 3 7 8 4 2 1 15 7 7 24 5 Leicester 14 4 2 1 9 5 2 4 1 7 6 5 24 6 Bristol City 14 5 2 0 11 4 1 4 2 6 9 4 24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 QPR 13 3 3 0 16 6 3 2 2 9 7 12 23 8 Blackpool 14 5 2 0 13 2 1 3 3 6 11 6 23 9 Preston 14 3 3 1 12 8 3 2 2 10 11 3 23 10 Nottm Forest 14 4 0 3 9 8 2 5 0 7 5 3 23 11 Watford 14 2 3 2 13 14 3 3 1 9 7 1 21 12 Swansea 14 2 4 1 5 5 2 3 2 4 5 -1 19 13 Sheff Utd 14 2 4 1 15 13 2 1 4 8 12 -2 17 14 Crystal Palace 13 2 3 2 7 9 2 2 2 6 6 -2 17 15 Coventry 14 2 4 1 9 8 2 1 4 7 12 -4 17 16 S****horpe 14 4 1 2 13 10 1 1 5 6 16 -7 17 17 Sheff Wed 14 3 2 2 14 9 1 2 4 7 13 -1 16 18 Doncaster 14 2 4 1 9 6 0 4 3 6 11 -2 14 19 Derby 14 4 0 3 12 10 0 2 5 5 15 -8 14 20 Barnsley 14 2 1 4 8 13 2 1 4 8 12 -9 14 21 Peterborough 14 2 2 3 12 11 0 3 4 5 12 -6 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 Reading 14 0 3 4 2 8 2 1 4 9 15 -12 10 23 Plymouth 14 1 2 4 6 11 1 1 5 7 15 -13 9 24 Ipswich 14 0 5 2 5 11 0 3 4 10 16 -12 8 Thats shit we should be 5 points clear!!! Pearson out!!!
Legend_in_blue Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I'd be concerned about us if I thought for even one second this was the case, but clearly it is not - don't talk out of your bum! Reading had around 60% of the ball because they were able to pass it on the deck and we were playing hoof ball to two midgits for 60 minutes. Was your initial statement meant as a heading for the rest of your post? We'd sussed them out after 15 and played at their level for most of the first half and soaked up the attacks nicely. We then hit them on the break having threatened in spells earlier and scored. The perfect away performance in the first 45. One clear cut chance, one goal. Were it not for miss-a-lot, greedy Fryatt we'd have been 3-0 up by 60. We backed off as we knew they couldn't hit a barn door from 2 yards and continued to play in 1st gear. The game fizzled out into nothing and were it not for Howard missing a sitter at the end we could have scored 4. I don't care if Reading had 80+% of the ball, we used it better but could and should have taken the chances more clinically. Up the tempo Friday against QPR and aspire to be more clinical in the final third and we will win the game there as well. I don't see why everyone should be moaning about tonight. Great away performance.
Raj Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 With Davids,Figo and Zidane in our midfield on Friday we'll whup QPR!!!!.....Oh and Paolo Rossi upfront!!!
Ozwin Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 If you said we'd be 5th at the start of the season after 14 games I'd have laughed my arse off. This is a dream first quarter of the season, we've got half the points we had the year we went down so bring it on! Who's to say what can't happen from here on out? I'm lovin' it.
caz123 Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 I think the general consensus on here is pretty harsh - we looked ok tonight for me, only McGivern looked poor but he was up against a lot of their play. Perhaps a more robust holding player but we looked decent going forward and made some good chances. And we WON!! Chin up!! Well said
lcfcadam Posted 26 October 2009 Posted 26 October 2009 Right, the rest of you who are coming down to QPR on Friday, let's make it clear that we want no less than 3 points. Our fans tonight sounded marvellous, I just couldn't afford to do both games so had to miss out on this one. We win on Friday, we go 2nd, and that's where I want to see us!
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