Webbo Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 I wouldn't blame either for wanting to leave.At Berner's age he needs first team football and Powell would go from part time reserves manager to (presumably) assistant manager at Newcastle, it's obviously a progression for him.
Solihullfox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 Newcastle have promoted Steve Stone to be First Team Coach - I think that was what I heard on Talksport about half an hour ago. Can't see Powell leaving to coach below Stone.
martyn Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 As much as I love Bruno, Cunningham has come in and proven his worth. He's quicker and is better going forwards than Bruno, he just needs some small positioning issues to be ironed out. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Berner's legs have gone. Watching him against Giles Barnes in the Carling Cup was painful.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 So glad I missed the earlier posts in this thread, I'd have crapped myself! Chrissy P leaving would be a blow and I guess the ball is in his court. He knows he's adored here, so that might act in our favour and I'd guess it would ultimately depend on his relatioship with Sven over his relationship with Pardew and which he believes will advance him better. He may well believe (probably correctly) that staying at City might be better in the long run, whereas a leap into a high profile club in the Prem might be an all-or-nothing gamble. He'll be forgiven more easily here, should he make any mistakes in the learning process. And as Ashley says, thanks Bruno, you've been great, but maybe your best days have gone by (he didn't start this season too well). Disappointed that he doesn't want to fight for his spot, but maybe he realises his best days are past too.
Rich Fox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 Where do these delusions of grandeur come from? You sound like a Leeds fan! We've not graced the prem for 6 seasons and 2 seasons ago we playing in league one. You realise they've barely left the premiership since it formed and were in the uefa cup a few years ago? I don't think sven will go because it's not much of a step forward. You are talking rubbish we are much bigger than Blackburn, there are not many clubs who cannot sell out a championship play off final at wembley, but when we played Blackburn in 1991 at wembley there were thousands of empty seats in the Rovers end, I will never forget it, I think even Nuneaton borough would have sold more then them so they are not only smaller than Leicester but smaller than Nuneaton as well. They BOUGHT the league title with Dalglish manager.
Bettsj2 Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 As much as I love Bruno, Cunningham has come in and proven his worth. He's quicker and is better going forwards than Bruno, he just needs some small positioning issues to be ironed out. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Berner's legs have gone. Watching him against Giles Barnes in the Carling Cup was painful. It's called age mate. He's 33 and was never the quickest anyway. To be honest i'd completely forgotten about him. I'm sure Sven has irons in the fire with regards to squad building so wouldnt be too sad to see him leave. Has had two good seasons here so I wish him well. Glad we've turned Newcastle down. Be interesting to hear what Powell thought of the whole situation.
scott_gunnell Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 A wrong rumour about Sven is that he quit jobs. The only time I know when he broke a promise is when he agreed for blackburn and then changed his mind when Lazio came for him. Also he wnt to England from Lazio quite understandable. He never quit England, he didn't quit Man City, he didn't quit Mexico, Ivory coast was a short term deal and for Notts County he gave up other offers because he liked the project but he turned out to be mislead but still stayed longer than he nedded also without getting fully paid. Blackburn isn't a huge job but still it's the prem though. There are lots of rumours about Sven that are wrong, and yes your quite right, this is another from the British media. Its worth noting that Blackburn was a handshake. He wasnt in a contract, so as far as we are all aware he has never left a job whilst in a contract. I dont see why that would have to change now!!! Sven will stay as long as he has the money in January
????? Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 I think is Fryatt who will go, the main reason is that when Waghorn came on at the weekend he got straight out of his seat and stormed off down the tunnel!
Babylon Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 You are talking rubbish we are much bigger than Blackburn, there are not many clubs who cannot sell out a championship play off final at wembley, but when we played Blackburn in 1991 at wembley there were thousands of empty seats in the Rovers end, I will never forget it, I think even Nuneaton borough would have sold more then them so they are not only smaller than Leicester but smaller than Nuneaton as well. They BOUGHT the league title with Dalglish manager. Doesn't matter what your criteria are for classing someone as a big club, the facts are they are an established mid table premier league side. We are an average championship side currently. Like it or not what crowds they get or what they have achieved doesn't matter one jot to most managers and players out there. All that matters is the premier league and £££.
Haydos Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 You are talking rubbish we are much bigger than Blackburn, there are not many clubs who cannot sell out a championship play off final at wembley, but when we played Blackburn in 1991 at wembley there were thousands of empty seats in the Rovers end. Does that not just make our support slightly better? Or our fanbase larger? I'm pretty sure we're just going to disagree on this but I think a clubs recent stature is a better judge of where the club stands against others. The last 10 years they have been a lot more successful than us. I do think we're a 'big' club in the grand scheme of things but i think it would be laughable from fans of other clubs points of view if they thought we considered ourselves equal to long standing premiership clubs because 'we sold a few more tickets than them back in '91'.
hackneyfox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 I think is Fryatt who will go, the main reason is that when Waghorn came on at the weekend he got straight out of his seat and stormed off down the tunnel! Did he, I hadn't heard this from anyone else?
Bettsj2 Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 Did he, I hadn't heard this from anyone else? I saw that. I said it at the time and some people round me started with the, 'Well ee shud be playin matteh' bullshit.
Kitchandro Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 Does that not just make our support slightly better? Or our fanbase larger? I'm pretty sure we're just going to disagree on this but I think a clubs recent stature is a better judge of where the club stands against others. The last 10 years they have been a lot more successful than us. I do think we're a 'big' club in the grand scheme of things but i think it would be laughable from fans of other clubs points of view if they thought we considered ourselves equal to long standing premiership clubs because 'we sold a few more tickets than them back in '91'. But have they got a brighter future than us? They'll be lucky if they're in the Premiership in 10 years. We are a bigger club than Blackburn in pretty much every way apart from the fact they are currently in the Premier League. 10 years aint that long in the grand scheme of things 11 years ago we were winning the cup for the 3rd time and where were they? I'm convinced in 5 years we will be more successful than them. The 5 years between 2004 and 2009 just happened to be the worst in our history. But their worst years were worse than ours I'm sure.
Kitchandro Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 If Kennedy's out on loan and Bruno is told he's not in Sven's plans I'd suggest Cunningham is a done deal on a permanent basis. It's a shame about Bruno because he's such a likeable player and I still think we could use him. It would have been nice for him to have been here when we get promoted. TBH I think Cunningham could learn a lot from him defensively.
dannythefox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 Can understand burner wanting to go, hes not got long left and could play every week for the next 2+3 seasons for a lower club if he stays in shape. As for powell wouldnt want to see him go but you carnt fault a man for bettering himself.
ScouseFox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 Glad we told Newcastle to do one, love Chrissy P. As for Bruno, I'd be disappointed to see him go, but I fear he's coming to an end here, and he's not getting any younger. He was great over the last 18 months or so, grateful for that.
ajthefox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 I don't see Sven leaving, I mean I'd be amazed if we were the only team that approached him. He joined us for a reason. Admittedly it was early in the season, but I'm pretty sure that most premiership chairmen, like Mandy or whoever made the call, that if they had an underachieving manager who they and the fans were loosing confidence in and sven was available that thy would speak to him and sort out gtting their gaffer shifted, even if Sven had to wait a week or two. After all, I think there's a 99.9% WE did that with sven and there is no doubt that happened wit sousa, and that's when he had been doing well at a club and we could potentally have still got to the promised land. And let's face it, i'd argue almost any prem club would be just as alluring as us. edit: as mentioned above, I'm delighted we told newcastle to fork off trying to speak with chrissy p, love the guy.
The Doctor Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 can't say i'm suprised about berner, he's not playing regularly and didn't his wife have a kid in the summer? Would probably be looking to move back to switzerland to raise his family.
hackneyfox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 But have they got a brighter future than us? They'll be lucky if they're in the Premiership in 10 years. We are a bigger club than Blackburn in pretty much every way apart from the fact they are currently in the Premier League. 10 years aint that long in the grand scheme of things 11 years ago we were winning the cup for the 3rd time and where were they? I'm convinced in 5 years we will be more successful than them. The 5 years between 2004 and 2009 just happened to be the worst in our history. But their worst years were worse than ours I'm sure. Blackburn were founding members of the league Multiple winners of the FA Cup even if it was in 1920s Appeared in Europe for 7 seasons since 1993. Currently members of The Premier They are a much bigger club than we are. Now if we were to sign Beckham that may change.
Jordan Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 I'm really glad LCFC are holding on to Powell--their coaching staff is top-class. Plus, before Powell gets his inevitable manager job, I would guess he'll learn more tricks of the trade from Eriksson than from Pardew (plus get in touch with perhaps a better set of "contacts" within the game). Anyway, what's with the whole "bigger club" argument? This is nothing but a pissing contest. Besides, just because Team A had fewer empty seats at Wembley 20 years ago than Team B or whatever doesn't mean Team B can't be a better choice for a player or coach to work. That said, though, as long as Blackburn remain a solid Premiership team while Leicester languish in the lower divisions, Blackburn are at least a better club, to touch upon what Haydos wrote.
StanSP Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 can't say i'm suprised about berner, he's not playing regularly and didn't his wife have a kid in the summer? Would probably be looking to move back to switzerland to raise his family. This isn't Carlos Tevez. This is Bruno fookin Berner! In all seriousness, I'd be sad to see him go but if he's not in first team plans, and still wants to carry on playing football, it's probably best to let him leave. No point holding a player at the club against his wish.
Kitchandro Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 Blackburn were founding members of the league Multiple winners of the FA Cup even if it was in 1920s Appeared in Europe for 7 seasons since 1993. Currently members of The Premier They are a much bigger club than we are. Now if we were to sign Beckham that may change. So between the 1920's and 1993 (when they bought the Premiership title) where were they? We've consistently been in the top 2 divisions, spent plenty of time thorughout our history in the top flight. Founding members of the league means nothing Our fanbase is loads better than theirs. We are a much bigger club than them.
hackneyfox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 So more fans equals more points equals higher league position? Nope They have achieved more than we have both in the past and in the last 20 years. They are in a higher division than us currently and probably still will be next season.
hackneyfox Posted 14 December 2010 Posted 14 December 2010 Bought the league title!! Does it say that in brackets after their name on the trophy? The league title has been bought for god knows how many years now, FRorest were probably the last team that didn't buy it. Ipswich?
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