Wymsey Posted 13 February 2011 Posted 13 February 2011 Considering the whole defence was a rock yesterday and if carries on like that, then i'll be happy for Hobbs to go to Hull, but i would've thought Sven would've put him on bench if he didn't get a place in the starting 11, as he is very capable of performing well.
Edmund Posted 13 February 2011 Posted 13 February 2011 Firstly right at the beginning I said Campbell should never have been sent to anyone near us in the league, the same as I believe any of our players shouldn't, it could seriously back fire. It didn't have an effect on us last year though, we made the playoffs and never played them. The scenario of Hull finishing 6th and us finishing 7th (which is what i'm talking about) is nothing like the DJ Campbell situation. So I don't know how you think it's contradiction. Okay that scenario is different but if Hull and us finish in the playoffs then we've got the same scenario as Blackpool and Campbell. Anyway I'm in agreement with you (this year ) that we shouldn't be loaning players to teams around us which in effect strengthens our rivals. Just like Blackpool last year, we are effectively giving them a helping hand.
Fox1651 Posted 13 February 2011 Posted 13 February 2011 Okay that scenario is different but if Hull and us finish in the playoffs then we've got the same scenario as Blackpool and Campbell. Anyway I'm in agreement with you (this year ) that we shouldn't be loaning players to teams around us which in effect strengthens our rivals. Just like Blackpool last year, we are effectively giving them a helping hand. In Sven :sge: we must trust, however there are definately shades of Blackpool in some of the outgoing business we have done recently (and are rumoured to be doing etc). If Hull snatch our play-off spot or worse still beat us in the play-offs with Fryatt and possibly Hobbs in the team it would be a bit of a kick in the teeth
darko2k7 Posted 13 February 2011 Posted 13 February 2011 In Sven :sge: we must trust, however there are definately shades of Blackpool in some of the outgoing business we have done recently (and are rumoured to be doing etc). If Hull snatch our play-off spot or worse still beat us in the play-offs with Fryatt and possibly Hobbs in the team it would be a bit of a kick in the teeth i think i'm right in saying Hobbs would not be allowed to play us if we both got to the play-offs, unless we don't put the clause in the loan deal which would be incredibly stupid which our board / manager clearly are not
CosbehFox Posted 13 February 2011 Posted 13 February 2011 I'd much rather he went to Doncaster or S****horpe on loan. They'd have little chance of affording to buy him in the summer, and they are both unlikely to get in the way of our play off push. Also, they are both likeable clubs, and Doncaster play nice football, so it would have some benefits of getting Hobbs more used to a passing style. Also, neither club is ****ing Hull City. Don't like 'em one bit. Huddersfield have apparently expressed an interest. Seriously I'd send him there if he wants first team football and if he rejects it, tough tits. We don't want a problem again like last year. Simple. Pearson hit the roof when Campbell joined B'pool as he wanted him off Derby on loan but Hoos didn't listen.
MC Prussian Posted 13 February 2011 Author Posted 13 February 2011 Leicester's Jack Hobbs set for Hull City loan move Hobbs made five appearances during his time at Liverpool Hull City are expected to confirm the loan signing of defender Jack Hobbs from Championship rivals Leicester on Monday, reports BBC Radio Humberside. Hobbs, 22, has been made available by Foxes manager Sven Goran-Eriksson and is expected to link up with former boss Nigel Pearson at the KC Stadium. "Without saying too much before things happen it is important for us to strengthen the squad," said Pearson. "There's a chance that we'll have a look at him." Sheffield Wednesday were originally hopeful of being able to attract the former England Under-19 international to Hillsborough. However, Owls manager Gary Megson has admitted that Hobbs is unlikely to join his side. http://news.bbc.co.u...ity/9396428.stm
Wymsey Posted 13 February 2011 Posted 13 February 2011 I reckon......Loan > Permanent move in Summer.
21st Century Fox Posted 13 February 2011 Posted 13 February 2011 I reckon......Loan > Permanent move in Summer. Yeah once he's under NP's wing again I can't see him coming back.
DB11 Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 If we'd played Blackpool in the play offs you might have had an argument but we didn't. If Blackpool hadn't made the play offs then another team would've. What's the difference? If we'd have played Blackpool it would have been better. DJ couldn't have played, and they had no firepower without him. We did the double over them last season and they had to play without DJ both times.
Ultra Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Hull still have to play Cardiff, Forest, Burnley, Millwall, Norwich, Swansea and QPR. If Hobbs helps them take points off any of them, that will work in our favour. Does anyone honestly think that Hull will outperform us during the next 15 games?
Corky Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 I'll be surprised if Hull reach the play-offs. Hobbs needs first-team football at this stage of his career, he's had a tough season for us and a spell away may do him good.
davieG Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 If we're planning on keeping him I don't think he should be allowed to go to Hull for the simple reason that Pearson will reinforce his style of play on him, we need him to develop skills he currently doesn't have so it'd be best for him to go to somewhere like Huddersfield who I believe play a passing from the back type of game, certainly not Sheff Weds under Megson. However if he's not in Svens medium or long term plans we should let him decide where.
Dr The Singh Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 If we're planning on keeping him I don't think he should be allowed to go to Hull for the simple reason that Pearson will reinforce his style of play on him, we need him to develop skills he currently doesn't have so it'd be best for him to go to somewhere like Huddersfield who I believe play a passing from the back type of game, certainly not Sheff Weds under Megson. However if he's not in Svens medium or long term plans we should let him decide where. He's finished here, he's not even third choice....Sven doesn't rate him, or believes parts of his game are not good enough. Loaning him out, just like DG said to an inferior passing team, will not improve his game!! He will be sold in the summer. But, I agree he should not be loaned to a rival, and believe me Hull are a rival. Pearson's team like us last season will grind out results, and could possibly reach the play offs. Personally, i like Hobbs, he is an astute defender who always gives his all, i would have prefered Sven to keep him!
ozleicester Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 If we're planning on keeping him I don't think he should be allowed to go to Hull for the simple reason that Pearson will reinforce his style of play on him, we need him to develop skills he currently doesn't have so it'd be best for him to go to somewhere like Huddersfield who I believe play a passing from the back type of game, certainly not Sheff Weds under Megson. However if he's not in Svens medium or long term plans we should let him decide where. Excellent points. Hobbs was a fave of mine over the previous couple of seasons, but he does not fit with Svens plans and style, so just in case... Thanks Jack, goodluck.
Foxhateram Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 You all talk as if a player is stuck in his ways and cant change. He is 22, he is still learning, we are a developing club and he is a talent that we should be developing and keeping. I still do not see the point in bringing in other clubs youngsters when we have our own who are talented enough to play. Hobbs can be taught to pass out of defence, its not like its rocket science to coach. I know were after instant success yadder yadder but that does not mean we shouldn't be looking after our young talent. Fair enough he may be going out on loan because he will be a first team regular and will gain himself experience, and hopefully win back his confidence, but i can only see it being a loan with a buy clause at the end of the season for Hull, which is really disappointing in my eyes. He has the potential to be a very good player. He deserves better treatment than we have given him this season. If stearmen can cut it in the prem then hobbs can without a shadow of a doubt. Disappointing.
footall_realist Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Wow, a lot of half decent and other silly comments on here. Lets be about right, its a good move for the player and the club. You need to remember as a center half, 22 is very young. This new lad from Chelsea is very good and should play, Bamba has scored a few goals but defensively is awful and I think due a big cock up. I was at the Man City away game and he is lucky Tevez didn't punish him, had no idea how to mark the guy and never got Naughton to cover. Also, really, what has hobbs done wrong??? Fair enough Tevez done him for the first goal, but look closely and you will see 2 very lucky bounces to go through and in the end a world class finish, thats the difference between the Championship and top level title contenders. Then some idiots might say the penalty, well if he dont challenge its a goal, he did, stayed on the pitch n they didn't score so worked out well for gods sake! He's a good player who took a big chance coming here from Liverpool and needs games, fair play to the lad fro wanting to play and not sit in the reserves collecting his wages.
Haydos Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Wow, a lot of half decent and other silly comments on here. Lets be about right, its a good move for the player and the club. You need to remember as a center half, 22 is very young. This new lad from Chelsea is very good and should play, Bamba has scored a few goals but defensively is awful and I think due a big cock up. I was at the Man City away game and he is lucky Tevez didn't punish him, had no idea how to mark the guy and never got Naughton to cover. Also, really, what has hobbs done wrong??? Fair enough Tevez done him for the first goal, but look closely and you will see 2 very lucky bounces to go through and in the end a world class finish, thats the difference between the Championship and top level title contenders. Then some idiots might say the penalty, well if he dont challenge its a goal, he did, stayed on the pitch n they didn't score so worked out well for gods sake! He's a good player who took a big chance coming here from Liverpool and needs games, fair play to the lad fro wanting to play and not sit in the reserves collecting his wages.
Wymsey Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Anyone saying Bamba is a crap defender clearly hasn't watched him play for us. Both him and Mee were excellent at Derby and despite both of them banging heads (hope Bamba's 6 inch bruise has gone....), they carried on performing well.
Haydos Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Anyone saying Bamba is a crap defender clearly hasn't watched him play for us. Both him and Mee were excellent at Derby and despite both of them banging heads (hope Bamba's 6 inch bruise has gone....), they carried on performing well. This, pretty much. You were being serious?
Wymsey Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 This, pretty much. You were being serious? Certainly
footall_realist Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 I dont think ur making much sense or even making a clear point? I dont think you guys see the bigger picture of what could happen
Ross 'LCFC' Turner Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Wow, a lot of half decent and other silly comments on here. Lets be about right, its a good move for the player and the club. You need to remember as a center half, 22 is very young. This new lad from Chelsea is very good and should play, Bamba has scored a few goals but defensively is awful and I think due a big cock up. I was at the Man City away game and he is lucky Tevez didn't punish him, had no idea how to mark the guy and never got Naughton to cover. Also, really, what has hobbs done wrong??? Fair enough Tevez done him for the first goal, but look closely and you will see 2 very lucky bounces to go through and in the end a world class finish, thats the difference between the Championship and top level title contenders. Then some idiots might say the penalty, well if he dont challenge its a goal, he did, stayed on the pitch n they didn't score so worked out well for gods sake! He's a good player who took a big chance coming here from Liverpool and needs games, fair play to the lad fro wanting to play and not sit in the reserves collecting his wages. bamba defensively awful? you've got to be joking wins every header so cool on the ball doesnt just hoof it throws his body infront of every shot reads the game well and scores goals the complete defender in my opinion
Wymsey Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 I dont think ur making much sense or even making a clear point? I dont think you guys see the bigger picture of what could happen I'm not seeing the bigger picture as i am talking about how well he has performed recently. Anything could happen, but in your case it hasn't happened by Bamba (bad errors) as yet and fingers crossed he doesn't and carries on his good work so far working with a new defence.
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