Jack Hobbs signs for...?

[Edmund]

He's been a laughing stock for many years. He's only looked any good whatsoever since he's been at Wigan. Does he still get in their side?

He plays for Sunderland

Not the most consistent defender but on his day he's up there with the best.

Steve Bruce one of the prems all time great defenders obviously has an eye for a good centre back hence taking him to Wigan and now Sunderland

[Kitchandro]

He plays for Sunderland

Not the most consistent defender but on his day he's up there with the best.

Steve Bruce one of the prems all time great defenders obviously has an eye for a good centre back hence taking him to Wigan and now Sunderland

Sorry Sunderland. I knew Bruce signed him somewhere

Sorry but I can't understand how the guy plays Premiership football. Similarly to Stearman (who I never rated even when he was here)

[STUHILL]

I tend to agree. And really cannot understand where the problem lies. Hobbs has already been described as what he is - a big stopper centre-half. And unfortunately this season that became more a big centre-half cos we leaked goals and lost matches with Hobbs sometimes to blame.

Defensively Hobbs can win headers. But what else would suggest he can grow with us? He poses little threat going forward, he's vulnerable on the floor at the back, he's not especially quick, is certainly not a naturally quick or accurate passer of he ball, he struggles on the left and therefore lacks versatility so there's just not enough boxes being ticked.

As for the people who've replaced him, Bamba and Mee seem to show lots of pluses, both individually and together. And if our latest centre-back signing is a good un too then, with Vitor and Tunchev in the wings we're well served for the sort of football Sven clearly and wisely wants us to play. I just don't see how Hobbs would fit in. That's not to say he couldn't do okay in a different set-up or that he couldn't improve ... as an attacking threat for a start. But I don't see that being enough for Sven. At the very least he'll want everyone to be comfortable on the ball. Hobbs always looks awkward and ponderous to me.

Spot on! I appreciate people's loyalty to such players who helped us get promoted from league 1 and served us well last season but Thracian sums up Sven's decision perfectly, and it's a decision that makes a lot of sense.

Hobbs now has a chance to play for a good side rather than sit on our bench and hopefully improve as a player. He may come back and force his way back in to the team but I think most likely he will move on in the Summer as Sven looks to rebuild, hopefully in the Prem!!

[Bert]

Well we might never know. I think he has the potential personally.

If Stearman and Titus Bramble can do it....

You could say Torres is a 'manager's player' or a 'confidence player' as Hobbs and Fryatt have been

accused of. That doesn't mean Sven can't instill confidence and belief into them. That's what managers do.

Every player needs confidence. Hobbs has looked a shade of the player we know he can be, getting messed about isn't going to help him is it? There's no way he's turned into a shaky player overnight, it's all down to his confidence being knocked, and that's down to being a player of the season to bit part player.

Sven's shown little confidence in Hobbs, imagine if you'd have established yourself over the past two seasons, then see yourself dropped for someone with no experience at all, had an awful debut and still see yourself on the bench?

[Guest Basildon Fox]

He's been a laughing stock for many years. He's only looked any good whatsoever since he's been at Wigan. Does he still get in their side?

But I would say Titus Bramble is a better player than Hobbs so where would that leave him if we went up. I doubt he would even get a place on the bench.

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

cant see him wanting to come back here and sit on the bench after playing an old firm derby infront of 60,000 people

[Wymsey]

Would be one of Sven's worst decisions so far if this happens. I rate Hobbs and i think he would be good back-up to Bamba + Mee.

Do me a favour Sven.......

[Guy]

I don't think we should give out anybody who is potentially pivotal in our side to anybody, let alone loan them out to Championship rivals - and particularly to the Sheep! Hobbs could evolve to be a better player than he presently is if we made it to the Premier League and he could then show us what he's made of there. I think he would be better than the aforementioned Tightarse Bramble in time.......IF he was just left alone with a settled starting place. I think he still misses the partnership he had in defence with Wayne Brown from last season personally and when Wayne left by default then it's since fallen apart a bit for both of them! The same applies to Waghorn this season compared to last. I think Pearson showed more faith in him than Sven currently is and Vassell isn't helping his cause either. It was ironic is a way that it was Sousa who signed him permanently! I see Berner wasn't in the squad against Barnsley at the weekend either - hmmmm! Quality loan players are all well and good as a quick fix to get us up the league but they are not a good idea for our longer term aspirations. I mean will they be here next season? - regardless of whether we go up or not......unlikely.........Hobbs, Waghorn and Berner probably would be though if only Sven showed faith in them.

[cc_star]

You say that my extreme is wanting to support a local pub team. I say your extreme is glory supporting.

I'm not saying you are a glory supporter, I'm saying that if you didn't care about relating to the team at all why not support Man Utd or Chelsea? They are successful.

I'm saying I want a balance.

I wouldn't put Hobbs in for Mee at the moment because he's had 2 good performances. But then again I wouldn't have dropped Hobbs for Mee in the Millwall game either.

Waghorn could easily be in for Vassell. Personally I would pick Dyer atm but Waghorn is better on the wing than Vassell (despite it not being his best position). Vassell is not earning his place IMO.

In the case of Waghorn it's not even necessarily starting him, but he will never have a chance to prove himself unless he's given more minutes. If he came on after the hour it would benefit all.

I recognise this point. People want success for Leicester, we all do, its just that we seem to differ how we want it.

a) Some people would like to see Sven adding to the squad and working with what we've got, using his management & coaching skills to grow the team & becoming a success in the Prem.

b) Others want the same Prem football, but seemingly whatever the costs, even if it means a different 11 playing every week as long as those 11 win and we get there.

As I see it, we all want the same thing, just different ways of getting there, some (me included) want the club that reaches the Prem to be a the club that we recognise and relate too, and some people seemingly don't care as long as we're successful - I'm not sure I understand this, as like the point you've raised, why not just support one of the big 4 if its a completely unrelatable(?) team.

Secondly, on the point of Vassell and Waggy.

I just don't think Waggy has been give a fair chance by Sven & also a lot of fans. If Waggy had been playing and scoring as irregularly as Vassell & who tbh has put in some sub-standard performances since Yak joined us. People would have been moaning like fook, whereas for some reason Vassell is being given the benefit of the doubt by Sven (perhaps no surprise as he signed him & has a long term relationship with him) but also by the fans who'd be on here slating Waggy if he'd have offered the same goal return in a winning side that Vassell has, Waggy got the same amount of goals in less starts and in a bottom of the table losing team, and when he comes on does a good job.

[Kitchandro]

I recognise this point. People want success for Leicester, we all do, its just that we seem to differ how we want it.

a) Some people would like to see Sven adding to the squad and working with what we've got, using his management & coaching skills to grow the team & becoming a success in the Prem.

b) Others want the same Prem football, but seemingly whatever the costs, even if it means a different 11 playing every week as long as those 11 win and we get there.

As I see it, we all want the same thing, just different ways of getting there, some (me included) want the club that reaches the Prem to be a the club that we recognise and relate too, and some people seemingly don't care as long as we're successful - I'm not sure I understand this, as like the point you've raised, why not just support one of the big 4 if its a completely unrelatable(?) team.

Secondly, on the point of Vassell and Waggy.

I just don't think Waggy has been give a fair chance by Sven & also a lot of fans. If Waggy had been playing and scoring as irregularly as Vassell & who tbh has put in some sub-standard performances since Yak joined us. People would have been moaning like fook, whereas for some reason Vassell is being given the benefit of the doubt by Sven (perhaps no surprise as he signed him & has a long term relationship with him) but also by the fans who'd be on here slating Waggy if he'd have offered the same goal return in a winning side that Vassell has, Waggy got the same amount of goals in less starts and in a bottom of the table losing team, and when he comes on does a good job.

Yes that's exactly what I was trying to say

Personally I am in agreement that situation a) is the ideal IMO. I am not trying to suggest that those who go for option b) are glory supporters or not real fans so I hope I didn't come across that way.

Personally I rate Hobbs and I will be disappointed to see him go. I will be disappointed that he goes more than others though because of reasons I have stated. I understand that Sven is not bothered about fan favourites and nor should he be but I do feel he's going a bit too much the other way, as I said I do think he's favouring his own signings and especially Vassell, perhaps a little too much.

Conversely (and also similarly) I want the current players to do well and yes I admit there is some bias there but If I felt they simply weren't good enough I would not be fighting their corner.

But what's done is done and as you say we alll want success for Leicester in one way or another. The most important thing atm is that we beat the Sheep Shaggers on Saturday

[ajthefox]

I recognise this point. People want success for Leicester, we all do, its just that we seem to differ how we want it.

a) Some people would like to see Sven adding to the squad and working with what we've got, using his management & coaching skills to grow the team & becoming a success in the Prem.

b) Others want the same Prem football, but seemingly whatever the costs, even if it means a different 11 playing every week as long as those 11 win and we get there.

As I see it, we all want the same thing, just different ways of getting there, some (me included) want the club that reaches the Prem to be a the club that we recognise and relate too, and some people seemingly don't care as long as we're successful - I'm not sure I understand this, as like the point you've raised, why not just support one of the big 4 if its a completely unrelatable(?) team.

Secondly, on the point of Vassell and Waggy.

I just don't think Waggy has been give a fair chance by Sven & also a lot of fans. If Waggy had been playing and scoring as irregularly as Vassell & who tbh has put in some sub-standard performances since Yak joined us. People would have been moaning like fook, whereas for some reason Vassell is being given the benefit of the doubt by Sven (perhaps no surprise as he signed him & has a long term relationship with him) but also by the fans who'd be on here slating Waggy if he'd have offered the same goal return in a winning side that Vassell has, Waggy got the same amount of goals in less starts and in a bottom of the table losing team, and when he comes on does a good job.

Yes that's exactly what I was trying to say

Personally I am in agreement that situation a) is the ideal IMO. I am not trying to suggest that those who go for option b) are glory supporters or not real fans so I hope I didn't come across that way.

Personally I rate Hobbs and I will be disappointed to see him go. I will be disappointed that he goes more than others though because of reasons I have stated. I understand that Sven is not bothered about fan favourites and nor should he be but I do feel he's going a bit too much the other way, as I said I do think he's favouring his own signings and especially Vassell, perhaps a little too much.

Conversely (and also similarly) I want the current players to do well and yes I admit there is some bias there but If I felt they simply weren't good enough I would not be fighting their corner.

But what's done is done and as you say we alll want success for Leicester in one way or another. The most important thing atm is that we beat the Sheep Shaggers on Saturday

Couldn't agree with these two posts more.

I want success but I don't want 11 different players every season wearing the shirt just for a paycheck.

Nor do I want to watch 11 players who give everything but are still shite and get us nowhere.

A balance between the two which is moderately successful would suit me fine, and is hardly a massive ask.

[chivs105]

Alright folks celtic fan here, just heard the rumours that we are signing hobbs on loan??? A didnt think that could happen as the transfer window has closed.

Anyway been reading through some of you guys,s posts and a lot of you have made a lot of valid points

Av been on many forums, arsenal, leeds, etc and a few others, we seem to get slaughtered on english forums, because of the dire state of the football on show up here in recent years, anyway reading through all your posts i was surprised as i was expecting more of the same kind of comments, considering we are supposed to be getting 1 of your players, but i didnt read 1 bad comment in 5 pages of talk so i thought i would sign up and congradulate you foxes

Is the lad a decent player or what??? A heard he,s young, and by reading some of your comments, he,s not a starter every week???

The lad cant be half as bad as some of the garbage we already have at our disposal, ie glen loovens, We were in the market in january for a centre half but couldnt get anyone in on time and had to play rangers on sunday with a left back at centre back, and the game before that we played the full backs at centre back.

Anyway well done lads and all the best for the rest of the season hope you make it in to the playoffs or even better top 2.

[Kent]

Guys, just because Hobbs might go out on loan doesn't mean he's not going to come back. Some of you are acting as though when you loan someone you've provisionally transferred them, people do go back to parent clubs.

Personally, I think if Hobbs isn't going to start for us (which I understand is another story) then it'll be a good experience for him.

[teblin]

Every player needs confidence. Hobbs has looked a shade of the player we know he can be, getting messed about isn't going to help him is it? There's no way he's turned into a shaky player overnight, it's all down to his confidence being knocked, and that's down to being a player of the season to bit part player.

Sven's shown little confidence in Hobbs, imagine if you'd have established yourself over the past two seasons, then see yourself dropped for someone with no experience at all, had an awful debut and still see yourself on the bench?

Think the damage was already done to Hobbs confidence prior to sven being here and because of that Hobbs put in some poor performances which did little to convince sven he was up to the task.

[marbelladave]

cc_star and kitchandro

This is something of a dilemma I have been trying to deal with or many years. I started going to Filbert St, with my father in the late 50's, stood on an unristricted Kop for most of the 60's and for that time, got to quite a few away games. However I buggered off to university in 69 and have never lived in Leicester since, yet I find it impossible to give wholehearted support to any other club.

I was a regular at Chelsea (I lived within walking distance of Stamford Bridge) during the Osgood/Hutchinson years in the early and mid seventies and being a permenant resident of west London this was as close as I got to adopting another club. Work commitments, particularly at weekends, meant that by the end of the 70's I was barely managing half a dozen games a season, then with the hooligan proplem approaching it's peak I gave up on live football altogether.

Lots of time away working, plus a few years living in Sydney kept me away from football till the beginning of the 90's when, once again settled in west London, I decided to adopt Brentford, the neaest club to my new home in Chiswick. I hoped that a smaller, communitee based club would somehow be more involving and in some repects is was, but the killer was I really did not much care what happened on the pitch....

I went back to watching Chelsea on a fairly regular basis and quite enjoyed the Hoddle/Gullit/Vialli period but when Abramovic moved in all the fun moved out. I had time and (some) money so I was able to start following Leicester again even though I was 100+ miles from the City. I enjoyed it so much that even when we moved to southern Spain I still managed to get to a few games each season. Now I am back in London for a few years I an able to get to around 30 - 35 games a season and wouldnt have it any other way.

Sure, in many ways modern football sucks, but it is what it is and I am what I am (born on the Saff, brought up on the Monsell) so following City is the only thing that works for me...

[Roy Cropper]

I for one couldn't care less if he goes to Celtic. His performance in the Man City should have seen him farmed out on loan before now. Sven is looking for centrehalfs who can tackle, pass and understand the offside rule. He offers none of these.

[Foxhateram]

Yuk! I am sorry but this is disgraceful, Jack has been one of most consistent players for the last few years! he has worked his socks off and helped us get back from league 1, then into the play offs last year. The bloke has been a rock at the back and has done not a lot wrong! Then to repay the poor bloke we chuck him out of the team and send him out on loan!

Its like saying "yer cheers for all you done mate, but bugger off now!"

What is the point in bringing in Chelsea's and Man City's so called young talent, when we have our own talent which we OWN which we could progress this season and prepare for the premiership next (if we get promoted). If Bruma does well he will just bugger off back to Chelsea and Mee to man city at the end of the season, and we will have to find someone else. Where as if Hobbs does well he could quite easily become a Premiership player and ours for years to come.

I am truly very angry at the way Sven is pushing out last years team, which was evidently good enough to get to where we want to be as they did it last season! We are trying to buy success rather than coach it, and to be quite frank it really stinks! This is not football, its cheating, and completely unfair on the squad from last season. I don't want other clubs rejects, when we have our own talent to bring forward! Its disgraceful.

ARGH i am very quickly falling out of love with this club. I feel sorry for Fryatt, Berner, Hobbs, Waghorn, Morrison et al, as they did nothing wrong but have been shifted out for Svens chosen men.

I will follow City, but i can't honestly say that i am still in love with the club, and this makes me honestly sad, as its something that has been very close to my heart for all my life.

[Stevosevic]

Sack Sven for making us a better side!

[Roy Cropper]

Sack Sven for making us a better side!

Here here! The man is a disgrace.

[gibwarrior1988]

Yuk! I am sorry but this is disgraceful, Jack has been one of most consistent players for the last few years! he has worked his socks off and helped us get back from league 1, then into the play offs last year. The bloke has been a rock at the back and has done not a lot wrong! Then to repay the poor bloke we chuck him out of the team and send him out on loan!

Its like saying "yer cheers for all you done mate, but bugger off now!"

What is the point in bringing in Chelsea's and Man City's so called young talent, when we have our own talent which we OWN which we could progress this season and prepare for the premiership next (if we get promoted). If Bruma does well he will just bugger off back to Chelsea and Mee to man city at the end of the season, and we will have to find someone else. Where as if Hobbs does well he could quite easily become a Premiership player and ours for years to come.

I am truly very angry at the way Sven is pushing out last years team, which was evidently good enough to get to where we want to be as they did it last season! We are trying to buy success rather than coach it, and to be quite frank it really stinks! This is not football, its cheating, and completely unfair on the squad from last season. I don't want other clubs rejects, when we have our own talent to bring forward! Its disgraceful.

ARGH i am very quickly falling out of love with this club. I feel sorry for Fryatt, Berner, Hobbs, Waghorn, Morrison et al, as they did nothing wrong but have been shifted out for Svens chosen men.

I will follow City, but i can't honestly say that i am still in love with the club, and this makes me honestly sad, as its something that has been very close to my heart for all my life.

Well said. Yes Sven has improved our performances. But I'm sure most people would have wanted him to bring in players in to strengthen our side, not completely change the whole team on a whim. You cannot argue that Sven prefers his own signings, and hasn't given a chance to the already good players we had here who needed developing.

[SMX11]

Surely this is a none issue if Celtic can't loan players after the transfer window a la PL sides.

[Stevosevic]

Well said. Yes Sven has improved our performances. But I'm sure most people would have wanted him to bring in players in to strengthen our side, not completely change the whole team on a whim. You cannot argue that Sven prefers his own signings, and hasn't given a chance to the already good players we had here who needed developing.

Not given a chance? Hobbs has played plenty of games under Sven and has rarely looked up to it.

The best players since Sven arrived? Wellens, Gallagher and of course King, three players who have thrived under him. Dyer also.

The positions that Sven has strengthened:

RB: Naughton or Neilson? No question

CB: we only had Morrison and Hobbs, i don't think anyone can question Bamba so far.

LB: Cunningham was better than Bruno, so is Van Arnholt.

Midfield: the same midfield.

Strikers: Yakubu or Fatty Fraytt? not a question really. And fryatt can't play in a 4-5-1

[cc_star]

Alright folks celtic fan here, just heard the rumours that we are signing hobbs on loan??? A didnt think that could happen as the transfer window has closed.

Anyway been reading through some of you guys,s posts and a lot of you have made a lot of valid points

Av been on many forums, arsenal, leeds, etc and a few others, we seem to get slaughtered on english forums, because of the dire state of the football on show up here in recent years, anyway reading through all your posts i was surprised as i was expecting more of the same kind of comments, considering we are supposed to be getting 1 of your players, but i didnt read 1 bad comment in 5 pages of talk so i thought i would sign up and congradulate you foxes

Is the lad a decent player or what??? A heard he,s young, and by reading some of your comments, he,s not a starter every week???

The lad cant be half as bad as some of the garbage we already have at our disposal, ie glen loovens, We were in the market in january for a centre half but couldnt get anyone in on time and had to play rangers on sunday with a left back at centre back, and the game before that we played the full backs at centre back.

Anyway well done lads and all the best for the rest of the season hope you make it in to the playoffs or even better top 2.

Yes, very, very decent. However he's not the most comfortable on the ball and isn't getting a game at the expense of people who are. If you want to sign a stopper on loan, there won't be many better. If you want a cultured 'complete' article look elsewhere, he's not ready, yet.

From what I know about your backline, he will improve your side, but we want him back.

Although there is the small matter of not being able to sign him because you don't have an 'emergency' loan period like we do.

ps. As much as we love Lennon, tell him to go after his own transfer targets on deadline day 'crashing' our targets is annoying :-p

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Well said. Yes Sven has improved our performances. But I'm sure most people would have wanted him to bring in players in to strengthen our side, not completely change the whole team on a whim. You cannot argue that Sven prefers his own signings, and hasn't given a chance to the already good players we had here who needed developing.

We were fooking bottom of the league when he took over. It needed changing!!

[gibwarrior1988]

We were fooking bottom of the league when he took over. It needed changing!!

Due to the manager NOT the players!