Wellens

[Tommy G]

Not this debate again, it's boring...did he shag your missus or something Ric?

Didn't think he was any worse than Fernandes who was invisible.

Massive over reaction, we lost 2-0 and outplayed in the same fixture last year. Win home and Draw away and we'll be up come May

[ousefox]

Well what with this being my fourth season ticket, I have been to pretty much every game Wellens has played at the King Power, and pretty much every time he's been gash.

You're opinion is different to mine And yours is wrong.

Are you serious? Admittedly this season he's had a few poorer games but he has more than made up for that in his good performances this season. Are you sure you're actually using your season ticket? because he has easily been one of our best players in the last 2 seasons.

[Houdini Logic]

Wellens and Fernandes were both poor, but then again they could both have easily been excellent on a different day. I've noticed noone seems to slag off Abe these days.

Shut up and move on, it happens

[Guest Col city fan]

He was shit today. But then again, who in the midfield was actually any good?

Wellens is consistently in the team, which means he's amazing if we win, and completely to blame if we lose. I really don't see why people on here can't see the wood for the trees - when you crowbar Abe, Fernandes, Wellens

and King into a slow midfield four with no pace on either flank, what the hell do you expect?

In any case, people are just going to have to deal with him being in the team. And as for Johnson replacing him...well, he may do in time but he looks way off it and about 2 stone overweight, so it will be a while before he's in contention.

This...

[Tommy G]

Close this topic or change to the title to ''Which player to Moan About This Week''

[Hack]

It's time you went sunshine, an absolute embarrassment today. I can't remember seeing a worse performance by a midfielder for us for a long while!

I'm seething.

Ric after watching that game I have to agree with you. I think Wellens is a good quality midfielder. But today he was slow in thought and execution. Being the at the back of the diamond to create the movement and direction, he was terrible. i was hopin all game that Sven would move Abe or Gelson back there. In the second half replace him with Johnson to adda bit of flair (no pun intended) or Danns.

We dominated large parts of the game with very little to show such as good quality chances and I am sorry to say Richie was mostly to blame for it.

I am also not sure that the diamond worked for us today. I would of liked to see us play with more width, not just the overlap of the fullbacks.

Wellens a 4 out 10

[ScouseFox]

Are you serious? Admittedly this season he's had a few poorer games but he has more than made up for that in his good performances this season. Are you sure you're actually using your season ticket? because he has easily been one of our best players in the last 2 seasons.

He infuriates me as a player, he's everything I don't want to watch. He think's he's good, he's not. He's dirty. He's a cheat, he dives around every time he's touched. He plays about 2 simple passes a year, and wastes good opportunities every few minutes by trying to be David Beckham. Back heels in his own penalty area. Rarely shoots, and when he does they're atrocious. His set piece delivery is pretty poor yet he seems to take more than anyone else.

All just my opinion, of course.

[Number 6]

He infuriates me as a player, he's everything I don't want to watch. He think's he's good, he's not. He's dirty. He's a cheat, he dives around every time he's touched. He plays about 2 simple passes a year, and wastes good opportunities every few minutes by trying to be David Beckham. Back heels in his own penalty area. Rarely shoots, and when he does they're atrocious. His set piece delivery is pretty poor yet he seems to take more than anyone else.

All just my opinion, of course.

That shot against Southampton was awful.

[The Doctor]

He infuriates me as a player, he's everything I don't want to watch. He think's he's good, he's not. He's dirty. He's a cheat, he dives around every time he's touched. He plays about 2 simple passes a year, and wastes good opportunities every few minutes by trying to be David Beckham. Back heels in his own penalty area. Rarely shoots, and when he does they're atrocious. His set piece delivery is pretty poor yet he seems to take more than anyone else.

All just my opinion, of course.

Can't fault any of those except the takes more set-pieces than anyone - when ever Gally is on the pitch he takes them instead, and with Konchesky taking free-kicks it seems Wellens will only get his hands on corners, and only when Danns + Gally aren't playing.

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Wellens is shit, most overrated player at the club.

Gallagher.

[marbelladave]

Three pages slagging off Ritchie and not a word from me, astonishing......

His performance today was typical Wellens, only a bit worse than usual. Some have seen this for a long time, others not.

Maybe after today.......

A couple of other thoughts on our midfield.

Fernandez was poor today, but then the very sugestion that he is a left sided midfield player is just plain nonsense.

Equally stupid is the idea that King is an attacking midfield player, just ludicrous. Beckford and Vassell will thrive on short passes played between the opposition back 4, an absolute staple of an attacking midfield player, but not remotely part of King's game.

Our two strikers were fed on a diet of long balls that Hudson and Gerrard handled with ease and a handful of over hit passes into the channels. Hardly surprising we can't score.

[Guest Col city fan]

Three pages slagging off Ritchie and not a word from me, astonishing......

His performance today was typical Wellens, only a bit worse than usual. Some have seen this for a long time, others not.

Maybe after today.......

A couple of other thoughts on our midfield.

Fernandez was poor today, but then the very sugestion that he is a left sided midfield player is just plain nonsense.

Equally stupid is the idea that King is an attacking midfield player, just ludicrous. Beckford and Vassell will thrive on short passes played between the opposition back 4, an absolute staple of an attacking midfield player, but not remotely part of King's game.

Our two strikers were fed on a diet of long balls that Hudson and Gerrard handled with ease and a handful of over hit passes into the channels. Hardly surprising we can't score.

Agree with you Dave and beginning to think that Sven actually ain't got a clue what our best formation is or who our best team is.

The long balls were meat and drink for their defence today.

And in Beckford our play today made a decent striker look like a complete donkey.

Common denominator?

[Bugg]

Agree with you Dave and beginning to think that Sven actually ain't got a clue what our best formation is or who our best team is.

The long balls were meat and drink for their defence today.

And in Beckford our play today made a decent striker look like a complete donkey.

Common denominator?

The old Col city fan is back

:thumbsup: :w00t:

Oh god.

[Finnegan]

I'm getting a bit used to fence-sitting.

I think I'm becoming less knee-jerk in my age.

I thought he was crap today and I thought he was crap against Brighton, especially in the first half. I think he needs to be rested for a couple of games to give him a bit of hunger before giving him an opportunity to bounce back to fight for his place. I think he's still got a job to do for us here I think he's just in a poor vein of form.

I'd play Johnson or Danns, we need to inject a bit of pace and energy into our attacking line. I like Yuki and Gelson as the ball winners but I think both King and Wellens need to be experimented with for our more creative side. We didn't really make much either today or against Brighton, I'd like to see Abe, Fernandes, Johnson and Danns when Johnson is fully match fit.

[dannythefox]

Wellens was no worse than Beckford today. FACT!

[Guest ttfn]

The diamond does seem to be the way forward.

I'd like to see

------------Fernandes---------------

King----------------------Johnson

------------Danns-------------------

This would allow Johnson to get on the ball, Fernandes to utilise his skills as ball winner, King to break into the box later and Danns is the player best suited to playing in the hole, with his good close control and creativity.

[Guest Col city fan]

The old Col city fan is back

:thumbsup: :w00t:

Oh god.

Give him till Christmas... But today was pants...

[lcfc_jme]

Wellens was absolutely shocking today. Aside from maybe 1 or 2 tackles, a couple of freekick purchases and 1 good set-piece, he was lucky to be called a "professional footballer". Abysmal.

Johnson or Danns should've replaced him as early as half-time because he was essentially fvcking useless and the biggest culprit of our inability to retain possession. Whichever of the 2 not replacing Wellens should've replaced Fernandes soon after, because he was far from good today either.

Anyone claiming Dyer is even remotely like the answer to our midfield issues needs to remember that Dyer is horrificly one-footed, extremely predictable and just as if not more prone to being "invisible" as most say King is. Lower-Championship / upper League One at best.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Don't know why youi think you got the right to slag our players off as you obviously don't travel from Scoueland to the King Power very often, and if you do have you got a white stick?

Hmm. Talk about the pot, calling the kettle black

[Buzzell]

Wellens was no worse than Beckford today. FACT!

The only reason Beckford was crap today is because he got no service from the midfield, including Wellens! Fact!

As for Wellens, worst performance ive seen from him. He did at times looked unfit. Should be dropped for the game against Boro. The problem we have is that we have no width whatsoever. We need a couple of good wingers, even give Dyer a run out! This problem is making our central midfielders look useless.

[bluebeau]

In all fairness a draw isn't a bad result to come away from Cardiff with. But having said that, none of our team had what I would call a good game today.

It didn't exactly make exciting viewing for the Sky cameras, & we are on again next weekend, against Derby. Can't honestly believe the nuetrals will be too eager to watch us on todays performance.

The difference between the terrific performance against Brighton with the same team, & todays showing beggers belief.

MOM imo was Sol Bamber who was pretty calm & solid in defence. Kasper didn't have much to do, but was reliable when called upon.

I wouldn't have singled out Wellens for criticism, as I don't think he played any worse than most of the others.

I hope Nugent will be fit to start against Boro/Derby, as I reckon he will link up well with Beckford.

[martyn]

The only reason Beckford was crap today is because he got no service from the midfield, including Wellens! Fact!

As for Wellens, worst performance ive seen from him. He did at times looked unfit. Should be dropped for the game against Boro. The problem we have is that we have no width whatsoever. We need a couple of good wingers, even give Dyer a run out! This problem is making our central midfielders look useless.

Football is a more complex game than that. Whilst our midfield were generally poor, Beckford wasn't exactly making slide-rule passes possible because his movement was absolutely non existant. Were the midfield also responsible for Beckford's sub-standard first touch and general hold up play?

[marbelladave]

Agree with you Dave and beginning to think that Sven actually ain't got a clue what our best formation is or who our best team is.

The long balls were meat and drink for their defence today.

And in Beckford our play today made a decent striker look like a complete donkey.

Common denominator?

Disagree about Beckford, to a degree anyway......

If he is not getting good ball, as was the case today, he does a good job of 'fixing' the centerbacks allowing runners to hit the gaps, but sadly our only runners today were Vassell, whose final ball was invariably poor and occasionally Peltier who did ok. The midfield, in total, was absent in support and did nothing remotely creative to play our strikers in, long balls aimed at Gerrard and Hudson and overhit balls into the channels are not what Beckford wants or needs, shame really.

When all the fuss was being made about us getting a new striker, I pointed out that it didn't matter who we got if we were not going to play to his strengths and today was a perfect example of that fact. I would go as far as to say that we could have played Steve Howard today, we still would not have scored but at least we would have spared Beckford the humiliation of trying to lead the line in front of the rubbish that was our midfield.......

[marbelladave]

Football is a more complex game than that. Whilst our midfield were generally poor, Beckford wasn't exactly making slide-rule passes possible because his movement was absolutely non existant. Were the midfield also responsible for Beckford's sub-standard first touch and general hold up play?

Beckford does not 'show' for long balls, which was all we were playing today, neither is he going to 'hold up' the ball against physical defenders, that is not his game.

He wants balls played short, between the defenders, or to his feet if he is dropping off, He does a fine job of occupying the central defenders but if there is no one to run at the gaps that is hardly his fault. The only player who did that was Vassell, who got into good positions on a number of occasions only to be let down by his final ball.

[cc_star]

Everyone in the middle wasn't grear, Wellens often has to do it all

The game passed Fernandes by

King had a couple of half chances but contributed nothing

Abe played like a headless chicken

Wellens was poor but when everyone leaves you with everything to do, what chance has he got?

Defence was good today but too often they hoof it over the midfield this season, something else which doesn't do Wellens any favours