Babylon Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 Call a spade a spade, etc. More like calling an orange a turnip.
flowwolf Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 Free at last Free at last ! Say what you want call a spade a spade ( not in a racist way ) speak as you find and if you don't like it lump it . Thank god for England the land of the free. By the way Erickson was a useless cvnt. amen :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
5waller5 Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 Why oh why is anyone that didn't think Sven should have been shown the exit at the time that he was labelled a "Sven lover" ... And anyone that thinks an ex manager with a short managerial CV, one trophy in his (managerial) cupboard, and a reputation for utilitarian football (at best) a club hater .... For the record, and i hope I quickly change my mind, I am underwhelmed by NP's appointment and think it's a great shame we lost Sven. But I am a LCFC fan, and have never booed a manager or player in my life and never will .... but equally won't be dancing in my KP seat (just yet).
Vlad the Fox Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 Why oh why is anyone that didn't think Sven should have been shown the exit at the time that he was labelled a "Sven lover" ... And anyone that thinks an ex manager with a short managerial CV, one trophy in his (managerial) cupboard, and a reputation for utilitarian football (at best) a club hater .... For the record, and i hope I quickly change my mind, I am underwhelmed by NP's appointment and think it's a great shame we lost Sven. But I am a LCFC fan, and have never booed a manager or player in my life and never will .... but equally won't be dancing in my KP seat (just yet). I was a Svenbetweener.
flowwolf Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 I was equally underwhelmed when that well known carpetbagger Erickson showed his money grabbing smarmy face up as manager. He won Fvck all in English football and yet god knows he was paid enough and given enough to by players by all the sucker clubs he managed. He even managed to trouser 500K off of us for being sacked ! enough there to pay off hull for Pearson. He was an unmitigated disaster and yet people on here still feel the need to slip their tongue up his rectum. It really beggars belief . :angry: :angry:
5waller5 Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 I was equally underwhelmed when that well known carpetbagger Erickson showed his money grabbing smarmy face up as manager. He won Fvck all in English football and yet god knows he was paid enough and given enough to by players by all the sucker clubs he managed. He even managed to trouser 500K off of us for being sacked ! enough there to pay off hull for Pearson. He was an unmitigated disaster and yet people on here still feel the need to slip their tongue up his rectum. It really beggars belief . :angry: :angry: The same money grabber that walked away compensation free from Notts County. The unmitigated disaster of being 2 points out the play offs being given 13 games to assemble a new squad over his first proper transfer window and pre-season. The same stupid reactionary drivel spouted by "fans" with no sense.
flowwolf Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 The same money grabber that walked away compensation free from Notts County. The unmitigated disaster of being 2 points out the play offs being given 13 games to assemble a new squad over his first proper transfer window and pre-season. The same stupid reactionary drivel spouted by "fans" with no sense. When i pay hard earned money to sit and watch that God awful football that the players he bought served up I have a perfect right to be reactionary. Those thirteen games were enough for anyone to see under his management that we were not going anywhere. He even told the players himself that he should be sacked. And he was here for most of the previous season and through his inept tinkering with the goal keeper he blew the chance of the play offs. As for only being two points off the play offs so is most of the league and how many points off of a relegation spot were we? He walked away from Notts county because they had NO money so they were never going to be stupid enough to pay him 500k to fvck off like we did were they ? You post is full of the same stupid drival spouted by the Erickson's bum smells nice " fans " :dunno: :dunno:
He's not bald Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 The same money grabber that walked away compensation free from Notts County. The unmitigated disaster of being 2 points out the play offs being given 13 games to assemble a new squad over his first proper transfer window and pre-season. The same stupid reactionary drivel spouted by "fans" with no sense. The same person who was given the biggest budget in this league this summer to add to HIS team of 9 months, to make a decent challenge for promotion...he was bloody nightmare and I'm glad he's gone! NP is most welcome back and I will be behind him 100% because he feels safe (no idea what that means but it just does!).
MPH Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 Suggesting Pearson is some sort of super-manager who can turn water into wine is just fantasy. He didn't do it here despite some people trying to convince themselves he did and he didn't do it at Hull, as their "goals scored" column clearly demonstrates,. . Just when i think the stupidity of your posts can not surprise me any more..... Like playing Oakley on the wing It will indeed be interesting to see what Pearson WITH money can do.... I was a Svenbetweener. There is a photo shop opportunity there... all of sven's signings now in limbo after his sacking... with a movie poster... someone get it done! Just got back, is this all sorted now then? If by all sorted you mean... it might or might not happen tonight and that compensation might or might not of been agreed depending on the reports and that it could possiby happen tomorrow but might in fact not... then yes.... its all sorted.
volpeazzurro Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 The same person who was given the biggest budget in this league this summer to add to HIS team of 9 months, to make a decent challenge for promotion...he was bloody nightmare and I'm glad he's gone! NP is most welcome back and I will be behind him 100% because he feels safe (no idea what that means but it just does!). It's easy to underestimate what a cracking job NP did getting us back into the Championship at the first attempt. The cynic would point out the supposed lowliness of the other teams in that division around us at the time, the realist could point to many a team who slipped down there expecting to jump straight back only to reside there for several seasons! Once up, in order to consolidate, I would have been more than happy to finish just under halfway but yet again, under NP, we possibly punched above our weight and got into the play-off's. My only two criticisms were his tactics for the first leg against Cardiff and perhaps slightly abandoning his previous apparent promotion philosophy using more width where possible, and a similar team where possible most weeks which appeared to breed a confidence and commaraderie between the players. However, lets not forget that NP was an 'up and coming' with little experience then and will have learnt quite a bit over the past few years. His vigour and keeness is there for all to see (albeit he can be a little dour in interview situations). He seemed to be doing quite well again at Hull without a £15M war chest and just got on with his job quietly and efficiently, yet his teams with lower level signings and loanees must also have had to learn to gel as well! I sighed when Sven, the serial burnt out underachiever arrived, as to many it was quite obvious what was going to occur. Let's give NP a chance to put his stamp on things and not expect instant miracles. I for one am happy to see him back and am quietly optimistic for the future now.
NewquayFox Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 I am glad Pearson is coming back (unfinished business and all that) we are in a much better place than when he left (forced out) with a good bit of money and solid backing from the Thais who desperately want us in the Premier League. Pearson will certainly have to put his mark on the current squad with a good few of them either being loaned out or shown the door, he will also get the best out of the players we currently have... I predict that come May we will be in the top 6 and if pearson gets back into his routine a top 2 place is there for the taking.... KEEP THE FAITH.....
flowwolf Posted 14 November 2011 Posted 14 November 2011 It's easy to underestimate what a cracking job NP did getting us back into the Championship at the first attempt. The cynic would point out the supposed lowliness of the other teams in that division around us at the time, the realist could point to many a team who slipped down there expecting to jump straight back only to reside there for several seasons! Once up, in order to consolidate, I would have been more than happy to finish just under halfway but yet again, under NP, we possibly punched above our weight and got into the play-off's. My only two criticisms were his tactics for the first leg against Cardiff and perhaps slightly abandoning his previous apparent promotion philosophy using more width where possible, and a similar team where possible most weeks which appeared to breed a confidence and commaraderie between the players. However, lets not forget that NP was an 'up and coming' with little experience then and will have learnt quite a bit over the past few years. His vigour and keeness is there for all to see (albeit he can be a little dour in interview situations). He seemed to be doing quite well again at Hull without a £15M war chest and just got on with his job quietly and efficiently, yet his teams with lower level signings and loanees must also have had to learn to gel as well! I sighed when Sven, the serial burnt out underachiever arrived, as to many it was quite obvious what was going to occur. Let's give NP a chance to put his stamp on things and not expect instant miracles. I for one am happy to see him back and am quietly optimistic for the future now. :trumpet: :appl: :appl: someone else who sees it like it really is , well said.
accessory Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 Best manager since O'Neill - so why all the negativity. He isn't superman but I didn't believe for a second we'd get MON back and other than maybe Mark Hughes I wouldn't have picked anyone else for the job. Err, no he's not. Micky Adams got us promoted to the Premier League. Pearson has yet to do so. As shown in one of the previous threads Pearson has the best win ratio out of any of the city managers, so i don't get the negativity, he did well the first time who's saying he won't this time? he's a great manager And as also shown in previous threads, Pearson's win stats are heavily distorted by the fact he is the only person to have managed us in the 3rd division. Take the wins against Hereford, Cheltenham, Yeovil etc out of the equation and his record is much more modest. Yes he may have made us competitive in the Championship for the first time in years, and perhaps exceeded expectations in breaking into the top 6. But we still finished below Forest and ultimately came up just short in the playoffs. I don't think he's been successful so far for us (or indeed elsewhere) - certainly not by Gillies, Bloomfield and MON standards, which is what some of the more discerning sections of the fanbase will judge him by.
funkyrobot Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 Err, no he's not. Micky Adams got us promoted to the Premier League. Pearson has yet to do so. And as also shown in previous threads, Pearson's win stats are heavily distorted by the fact he is the only person to have managed us in the 3rd division. Take the wins against Hereford, Cheltenham, Yeovil etc out of the equation and his record is much more modest. Yes he may have made us competitive in the Championship for the first time in years, and perhaps exceeded expectations in breaking into the top 6. But we still finished below Forest and ultimately came up just short in the playoffs. I don't think he's been successful so far for us (or indeed elsewhere) - certainly not by Gillies, Bloomfield and MON standards, which is what some of the more discerning sections of the fanbase will judge him by. I love your logic. Take out wins that you don't think are against good teams and then his win ratio isn't as good. Would u apply the same rules to man utd? A win against Wigan wouldn't count cos Wigan are shit? Rubbish. How about this season? His win ratio at a club with a far smaller budget was much better than Sven's. NP will prove to be a far better manager than Micky 'keep the faith' Adams btw.
accessory Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 I love your logic. Take out wins that you don't think are against good teams and then his win ratio isn't as good. Would u apply the same rules to man utd? A win against Wigan wouldn't count cos Wigan are shit? Rubbish. How about this season? His win ratio at a club with a far smaller budget was much better than Sven's. NP will prove to be a far better manager than Micky 'keep the faith' Adams btw. The pro-Pearson brigade are already displaying the slavish devotion previously seen among the Sven groupies. All I'm asking for is to compare like with like and judge Pearson's record in the Championship against those of his predecessors. And it's an undeniable fact that in this division Micky Adams has a higher proportion of wins and points per game for City than Pearson does.
Alexikokopops Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 Ahem.... "Pearson's a God". Beat me too it The pro-Pearson brigade are already displaying the slavish devotion previously seen among the Sven groupies. All I'm asking for is to compare like with like and judge Pearson's record in the Championship against those of his predecessors. And it's an undeniable fact that in this division Micky Adams has a higher proportion of wins and points per game for City than Pearson does. But that's not comparing like for like Both were managing in completely different circumstances. I'm not saying Pearson is better than Adams, or the other way. It's just, as someone who spends every day comparing the statistics of like and like groups, I get pernickety even slightly related to it
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 Nige won't take no shit and he wont care who is on what money. Hope he can turn the ship around.
Wink Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 The pro-Pearson brigade are already displaying the slavish devotion previously seen among the Sven groupies. All I'm asking for is to compare like with like and judge Pearson's record in the Championship against those of his predecessors. And it's an undeniable fact that in this division Micky Adams has a higher proportion of wins and points per game for City than Pearson does. I can't remember the squad we had when we got promoted with Micky Adams, but would you say he had a better squad than what NP had when he has in the championship? NP performed above expectations when we came up, sure we blew it in the play offs! Now we are more established in league with a better squad than he had previously! Now is a time to find out how good a manager he is! The microscope so to speak will be on him more than ever before, big expectations! Why are we judging him against other managers? He did a good job he before, no one can doubt that! Anyone that does is a fool!
MPH Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 Nige won't take no shit and he wont care who is on what money. Hope he can turn the ship around. or get all the sails up and get us travelling at full speed.....
teblin Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 I can't remember the squad we had when we got promoted with Micky Adams, but would you say he had a better squad than what NP had when he has in the championship? NP performed above expectations when we came up, sure we blew it in the play offs! Now we are more established in league with a better squad than he had previously! Now is a time to find out how good a manager he is! The microscope so to speak will be on him more than ever before, big expectations! Why are we judging him against other managers? He did a good job he before, no one can doubt that! Anyone that does is a fool! Adams had a good team not so much of a squad and did an amazing job that year. The fact he still had Elliot taggart and izzet helped. Adams had one amazing season then one in the prem where we shouldve stayed up the a dreadful start to a championship season. Pearson on the other hand had 2 great seasons but had more resources in terms of buying power than Adams. I'd say Pearson was better but that's my opinion. As Adams has gone on to be poor with other clubs in this league.
Babylon Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 The pro-Pearson brigade are already displaying the slavish devotion previously seen among the Sven groupies. All I'm asking for is to compare like with like and judge Pearson's record in the Championship against those of his predecessors. And it's an undeniable fact that in this division Micky Adams has a higher proportion of wins and points per game for City than Pearson does. That's all very well but the anti Pearsons once again fail to look at things fairly, meaning the others feel the need to defend. Look at the players Adams had. I'm sure Pearson wished he had a team that contained Walker, Sinclair, Taggart, Elliott, Izzet, Scowcroft, Dickov, Deane. Scowcroft probably cost more than than our starting 11 alone. Just because X manager got more points on the board than someone else doesn't mean they did a better job. Adams did a great job, but what Pearson did is comparable considering where we were when he took over and the fact he created the squad whilst turning a profit in the transfer market.
Fox92 Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 Although I love Micky Adams, and always will, I don't think you can argue with Pearson record. Well, you can't argue with facts/stats anyway. Regardless of the opposition (you can only beat what is in front of you!) Pearson did a fantastic job here, and has a record that is second to none.
shade Posted 15 November 2011 Posted 15 November 2011 If anyone can get these overpaid gimps playing consistently well, then it's Pearson.
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